- Nov 14, 2007Thanks for your view on the matter Duward. Dr. Steiner had darker
hair color so in no way does that imply he was more materialistic.
However, from "Before the Gates of Theosophy", Dr. Steiner is
"A soul can be incarnated in any race, but if this soul doesn't
become evil, it doesn't need to be reincarnated in a descending race,
it will reincarnate later in a ascending race."
Eventually, time permitting, I want delve into more serious study
here. What does Dr. Steiner refer to in 'descending and ascending
races'? He also spoke of how certain Souls will sacrifice themselves
to incarnate into a descending race in order to help people, I doubt
he was referring to races of the past, but instead, he referred to
races that are co-existing today and that should not be co-existing
if it were not for the influences of Ahriman and Lucifer.
When we consider how Dr. Steiner is quoted speaking of the Huns
having decaying astral and ether-bodies and that the Malayan race
were degenerated because the nervous system hardened at a much too
early stage and didn't stay soft long enough. And likewise, he made
other statements about the Mongols.
I hope other members do not mind sharing also because there is
something more being spoken of here than merely 'root, or sub root-
races', I think.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Durward Starman <DrStarman@...> wrote:
> >>Duward let us first put everything aside and ask a
question: "What did Dr. Steiner believe about miscegenation?"
> *******Well, why don't you find a quote by him on the subject and
post it? Myself, I've never read a single remark of Dr. Steiner's
even remotely suggesting that people of one race shouldn't marry
> >>... would he have said "Do not place any importance on it?"
> *******I believe anthroposophy does not, yes, so he would have.
> >>Now referring specifically to culture: One way to bring about a
cultural mixing is through miscegenation....
> ******* There are lots of white kids mimicking black culture
without having to have black fathers.
> Here is the quote taken from "Health and Illness in 1922:"I am
convinced that if we get yet another set of Negro novels and give
them to pregnant women to read, then Negroes do not have to come to
Europe to conceive mulattos; just by reading Negro novels, half-blood
children will be born in Europe" Durward, if Dr. Steiner did indeed
say this (I think he did) let's investigate what he was teaching us
and not fall into either white-washing thr matter, or the opposite
angle in claiming he was a racist.
> ****** Again: a book cannot have a "race", so that, to me, clearly
shows he must have meant that, because what happens in the inner
spirit has such an effect on the developing child, a woman reading
stuff that is culturally low would have it affect her child. Same
with the terrible music people listen to now, it affects their
kids. I've said all I really wish to say on this subject. The
essence of it is below. If others want to continue the thread, they
> > Each spirit is an individual, a species unto itself. The 'soul'
is what we know as the astral body. It is formed when the spirit
comes down towards incarnation. There are different types of astral
bodies, and they are formed to incarnate into a suitable body, yes.
But it's not quite that there is a "Chinese soul" or a "Negro soul".
That's an approximate way of speaking. The exact way is a "Mars
soul", "Jupiter soul", and so on. But a Mars soul could incarnate as
an American Indian OR as a Caucasian who relates a lot to Indian
culture and is very war-like (even ruddy-complexioned or reddish-
skinned), OR as a black man who has a shock of red hair and acts like
a warrior---viz., Malcolm X. > These are not, however, like grades in
school, with each one being above another, any more than an animal
spirit is going from third grade to fourth to experience being a
moose then a dog then a whale. It's a lateral movement, not vertical.
> I do not see the mixing of races speeding up materialism, nor
avoiding same helping to slow it down. I see thinking about spiritual
things, not physical ones like race, countering it. Starman
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