4508RE: [steiner] Re: Gulags for Anthros?
- Aug 2, 2007*******Well, the main anthroposophists I've run into with loony conspiracy
theories are here on the internet. If you're a parent in a Waldorf School
and start going off the deep end with stuff like that, everyone will change
the subject or leave you to argue with some drunks or something. ;->
But it's certainly true that a lot of young people join bio-dynamic farms
and similar things out of alienation and are often politically nut-jobs.
I have never met an anti-Semitic anthroposophist, though. Quite the
opposite, I've known many Jewish ones and others who made a special study of
>From: "Mathew Morrell" <tma4cbt@...>_________________________________________________________________
>Subject: [steiner] Re: Gulags for Anthros?
>Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:55:48 -0000
>Mr. Mason wrote:
> > [The inner circle of New World Order] understand
> > that Anthroposophy is a serious obstacle to their
> > aims, however insignificant and muddled Anthropo-
> > sophists may appear to be on the physical plane.
> > [brackets mine]
>I'll at least accept the possibility that you're seeing
>something in the heart of Anthroposophists that I cannot see.
>You're a bright person. Maybe you're right and Anthroposophy is
>a world-force around the globe capable of intimidating the New World
>Order. Where as I see a movement riddled with neurosis, I'm open to
>the possibility that there is a silent majority out there that I
>haven't encountered who have the spiritual wisdom to illuminate the
>world. Maybe they're the ones capable of bringing a new vision of
>Christ to the 21st century, as mainstream Christianity atrophies and
>That is the worst nightmare scenario of the New World Order---an
>illuminated Christian Church, empowered by occultism, spiritualized by
>God, saved by Jesus Christ, our Lord.
>When Anthroposophists are tired of dicking around with their asinine
>conspiracy theories, their rabid anti-Semitism, and their sickening
>hatred of the United States, wake me up and I'll pick up my sword.
>Until then, you guys are on your own.
>--- In email@example.com, Robert Mason <robertsmason_99@...>
> > To Mathew Morrell, who wrote:
> > >>If they start censoring Steiner's lectures,
> > don't fret. Start uploading his censored
> > material onto the Internet---and those
> > teachings, in turn, will become more available
> > than they are now. In our time, the Internet is
> > our greatest weapon against totalitarian
> > control of ideas.<<
> > Robert writes:
> > Just about all of Steiner's writings and
> > lectures are already on the Net in German, and
> > a good deal of them in English at the eLib.
> > But the would-be totalitarians are already
> > exploring ways to shut down the Internet. So
> > far, it seems, their main ploy has been to
> > flood it with disinformation.
> > Matthew wrote:
> > >>. . . . Now, as far as "saving" Anthro from
> > totalitarianism, that's kind of an oxymoron,
> > isn't it? Maybe the Internet has warped my view
> > of Anthroposophy as a whole, but I really don't
> > see any major political conflicts arising
> > anytime soon between the New World Order and
> > Anthroposophy. Nor can I envision the average
> > Anthroposophist being locked up in a re-
> > education camp or a Gulag. In fact, I see the
> > opposite occuring. The New World Order and the
> > average Anthroposophist are in perfect
> > agreement on so many issues (i.e. gun control,
> > immigration, the Fairness Doctrine) that the
> > two spheres almost seem to be an extension of
> > one another. Anthroposophists should stop
> > flattering themselves with the idea that
> > they're radical intellectuals, when quite the
> > opposite is true.<<
> > Robert writes:
> > That's an interesting perception of the
> > "average" Anthro, and maybe you have more
> > experience on which to base it than I have. I
> > suppose to some extent, at least, it's true.
> > Anthros are only people, and most people have
> > the outlook that is normal in the society
> > around them. When people come to Anthroposophy
> > they usually bring some of the "normal"
> > prejudices with them. It's an individual
> > matter as to how much the encounter with
> > Anthroposophy will make the Anthro into a
> > "radical intellectual", to use your phrase.
> > Nevertheless, Anthroposophy itself is very much
> > at odds with the prevailing materialistic
> > worldview, and those Powers That Be (those in
> > the inner circles) know this fact very well,
> > and they understand that Anthroposophy is a
> > serious obstacle to their aims, however
> > insignificant and muddled Anthroposophists may
> > appear to be on the physical plane.
> > Therefore, just having any connection with
> > Anthroposophy might well put someone on the
> > arrest list, or the extermination list.
> > Picture this: The black-clad, ski-masked,
> > body-armored SWAT team is kicking in the door,
> > shooting the dog, and hauling the startled,
> > unarmed Anthro into the paddy wagon. Do you
> > suppose it would do him any good to protest,
> > "No, no; I believe in open borders. I'm for
> > gun control. I love the U.N., I really do." --
> > ?Hm?? Do you think that the steroid-pumped
> > HiGs would relent and release the "terrorist"?
> > Or do you suppose that the magistrate, if there
> > be any magistrates or *habeus corpus* left in
> > the NWO, would appreciate the PC-ness of the
> > "average Anthro" and let him go on his merry
> > way?
> > Maybe, maybe . . . . But maybe not. If the NWO
> > comes down, is it gonna come down as hard as
> > the Power That Be would like it to, or would
> > there be some restraint? That's kinda the
> > question I was asking, and asking whether
> > traditional American respect for freedom would
> > yet impose that restraint more than in Europe.
> > But I don't much doubt that the Powers That Be
> > would like to exterminate anyone who has any
> > real appreciation of Anthroposophy.
> > I appreciate your take on the "average" Anthro;
> > I wonder whether anyone has taken a poll?
> > Robert Mason
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