4205Re: [steiner] David Wilcock
- Mar 2, 2007Never heard about D. Wilcock in France, but all this sounds like a new new-age to me. First new age idea were brought to public by shirlay Mc layne if I remember. We were spoking about spirituality and misticism more than historical and teological believes.As Jesus is the Prophet telling Truth of God for muslim, and as he is the son of God for chirstians I may have passed into the spiritual world as Steiner said and why not still working through humanity in a human form. Isn't he God after all ? This argument could make sense with these new new-age ideas but I thing we are out of the spiritual terrain and practice. Who in this list would say he can see the spiritual world and explain it ? We still working on ideas, concepts, and believes.This kind of new new-age won't give spriritual faculty to this humanity, unless poeple take the will to change. Cause Will and action is the basis of spiritual vision (It exist an Action yoga in india - Yoga simply means "method"). Even I spent 2 years studying teology, and reading about 200steiner books, doing also 2y of exercises I really can tell nothing about Chirst : Maybe as the disciple I met him but I did not undrestant Who he was...See you every night in the spiritual world !
Mathew Morrell <tma4cbt@...> wrote:Why would Jesus feel the need to marry Mary Magdalene and move to
France to live the earthly, temporal life of a normal man---as David
Theologically that seems contradictory considering Jesus was a man
raised to the level of God. He and the Father were One when Christ
ascended to heaven from the Mount of Olives, "disappearing in a
cloud." From these clouds, the Etheric Realm, he governs the
evolution of mankind by filling the heart of man with His divine
spirit. In other words, He isn't having sex with former disciples
and apostles. That type of behavior would be more in line with Bill
Clinton, not Jesus.
The inability of the New Age to experience the Etheric Christ has led
to erroneous aspersions about the nature of Christ. In the New Age---
which continually seeks to materialize The Christ into a temporal,
human figure---Jesus- as-Son theology is rejected. Instead of a
spiritual vision of Christ, the New Age embraces Jesus on a
materialistic level that they can comprehend. The fundamentalist New
Age sees Jesus more as a prophet; not Jesus the Redeemer, but Jesus
as social liberator; not Jesus, the guide of human evolution, but
Jesus as wise man. The Son is a clear theological contradiction
within Islam, and also a contradiction within the evolving theology
developing organically within fundamentalist New Age churches.
"Those who say: 'The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,' preach a
monstrous falsehood, at which the very heavens might crack, the earth
split asunder, and the mountains crumble to dust. That they should
ascribe a son to the Merciful, when it does not become the Lord of
Mercy to beget one!" [Koran 19:88]
The theology of Islam stresses the complete otherness and
transcendence of God so where God's direct involvement in the world
would be unthinkable- --even blasphemous. Saying God is apart of
world, by bringing forth a son, would within Islam be the same as
saying God is "of the world", which is a distinctly non-Magian, non-
Muslim, non-New Age thought. Heaven and the world are separated by
the impenetrable wall of dualism. Satan is of the world, not God.
Most Christians, on the other hand, consider the Son-as-God theology
as Testimony of God's divine love---a love that is discontent only to
bless His creation outside of life; the Christian God is an intricate
part of life, the Living God that is involved in the Created Order.
God sanctified humanity "from within" through His Son.
Muslims believe that a historical Jesus existed in first century
Palestine. Their own holy book states Jesus was born to the Virgin
Mary, that he ministered, healed the sick, and that he was "lifted"
up by God. According to the Koran, it was Jews and Christians who
misrepresented, and lied, about the events that transpire in the
Bible. "The Jews say Ezra is the son of God, while the Christians say
the Messiah is the son of God. Such are their assertions, by which
they imitate the infidels of old. God confound them! How perverse
they are?" [Koran 9:30]
Muslims also believe that the crucifixion was a hoax. Jesus did not
die on the cross, according to the Koran. Rather it was someone
posing as him who died. The book Holy Blood, Holy Grail makes the
same assertion, and has been dramatized in fictional-form into a book
called The Da Vinci Code, which was made into a movie starring Tom
Hanks. It would be impossible to underestimate the influence that
these books have had on the New Age movement, and on Christian
churches growing increasingly dissatisfied with Jesus-as-Son theology.
In the New Age, Jesus was the metaphysical "superman" who preached
love, peace, tolerance and pacifism, but is not our Savior, not an
inter-dimensional vehicle for our personal Salvation. More and more,
the New Age is being defined by The Da Vinci Code, and Holy Blood,
Holy Grail, two powerful works that achieve far-reaching conclusions
concerning Jesus' nature. We can summate these conclusions as
follows. Jesus did not die on the cross. He survived the crucifixion,
married Mary Magdalene, had offspring, and lived in Western Europe.
His blood line gave birth to the Merovingian line of royalty. This
blood line is the Holy Grail, guarded by the Templars.
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