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  • Sarah FE
    Sep 2, 2004
      Certainty in what are we talking about?

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      > Date: 2 Sep 2004 13:54:43 -0000
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      > Subject: [steiner] Digest Number 809
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      > Topics in this digest:
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      > 1. TALKING POINTS ON CERTAINTY
      > From: "Mathew Morrell" <tma4cbt@...>
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      > Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 04:56:45 -0000
      > From: "Mathew Morrell" <tma4cbt@...>
      > Subject: TALKING POINTS ON CERTAINTY
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      > ** Mr. Reardon (my philosophy of religion teacher) definition of
      > certainty: a firm assent to a proposition because of a motive.
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      > ** Another way to say it is: You are certain because you have reason
      > to believe your certainty is reasonable and justified.
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      > ** Certainty without motive is faith. A person who has faith is
      > faithful, not because he can substantiate his faith through personal
      > experience or through overwhelming proofs, but through irrational,
      > subject reasons (i.e. because he wants and needs to believe).
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      > ** If we tried to relate the concept of certainty with religion, a
      > direct experience of God would be "overwhelming proof" of the
      > presence of God that would make simple faith un-necessary. The
      > mystic's direct experience elevates him above faith by providing him
      > with the motive or the reason to have certainty in God. However,
      > achieving a mystical sense of certainty and sustaining it on a
      > permanent level is impossible for most people. In reality, moments
      > of pure affirmation generally occur in brief flashes and momentary
      > glimpses. The remainder of the time we rely on faith.
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      > ** Therefore faith is a necessary and natural element in life.
      > Through faith we establish a state of trust in our moments of
      > certainty.
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