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  • Joel
    Dec 4, 2003
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      "which would follow only its own (purely economic) laws" I'm curious
      about this, Dr. - surely we cannot expect the economic institutions
      to draft and accept laws themselves that regulate their own
      behavior? With the obvious disrespect for any laws already shown by
      Enron, et al? I haven't read the ThreeFold Order materials,
      obviously - just wondering if you could shed a little light on how
      economic arenas can be kept seperate and regulated. Isn't
      interconnection between all aspects of society still vital?

      --- In steiner@yahoogroups.com, DRStarman2001@a... wrote:
      > plong_plong@h... writes:>
      > > hello everybody,
      > > Just want everyone to know that I am no spammer. I have been
      following your
      > > discussions all along.
      > > My interest is on science and technology. I took a one-year
      holistic science
      > >
      > > course at Schumacher College ,UK. I also spent some time working
      in a
      > > Biodynamic Garden for four months and visiting Camphill
      communities. I am
      > > currently enrolled in a Waldorf teacher training course in London.
      > > I have read most of Steiner's lectures on the sciences and his
      ideas on the
      > > three-fold social order. I find his lecture on World Economy very
      > > interesting. There are a number of people who are promoting his
      economic
      > > ideas both in the grassroots level and on the academic arena like
      Nicanor
      > > Perlas in South East Asia and Christopher Budd in the UK.
      > > All the best,
      > > plong
      >
      > ********Glad to hear you're a real person, "plong", and not just a
      screen
      > name to be used to spam the list. Seemed like the type of name
      they'd choose.
      >
      > I have to say that much of what I hear from people like Perlas
      has little
      > relation to Steiner's "Threefold Social Order" ideas, in my
      opinion, but
      > rather is people using his name to spread their own, quite
      different, opinions.
      > For instance, Steiner advocated an economic sphere quite distinct
      and separate
      > from the political state, which would follow only its own (purely
      economic)
      > laws --- and so also with the "cultural" sphere (so, for instance,
      the Waldorf
      > Schools are private schools, not run by governments). But it
      appears to me that
      > many of the people saying they follow Steiner want MORE control of
      the economy
      > by the government, not less. ;-> [Not to mention the anti-Western
      > Civilization bias and blindness to the current war of Wahabbi Islam
      on civilization,
      > which Steiner predicted as the result of the rise of the Sun Demon
      Sorath 666 in
      > 1998, as we've discussed here.]
      >
      > I find, in my experience for many years now, that often they
      are just
      > socialists or communists with a thin "coating of Steiner" on top,
      and once you
      > draw them out in discussion, out come the Marxist slogans that show
      what they
      > really think--- which is that the government should take over the
      economy "for
      > everybody's good". That is definitely NOT the teaching of Rudolf
      Steiner!
      >
      > -Starman
      > >
      > > >>>
      > > >>>Starman,
      > > >>>I know that this list is public but a possible solution to
      spammers is to
      > > >>>ask new comers to list some of the books they have read on
      > > >Anthroposophy and to ask them to write you a short essay on
      their
      > > particular interest in Anthroposophy.
      > > >>>In other words there needs to develop a means to weed out
      > > >spammers before
      > > >>>they join the group.
      > > >>>rick distasi
      > > >>>
      > > >>>
      > > >>>
      > > >>*******Well, I'm going to do something like that---namely, note
      > > >and inquire of new members joining. In the past few weeks, for
      instance,
      > > we've
      > > >had new members:
      > > >>
      > > >> Renee Lattimore (in late October)---- and then in November:
      > > >> Brent Wilson of Kansas City
      > > >> "Dragonfliesare dancing"
      > > >> G. Renquist
      > > >> "biblia1703" from the U.K.
      > > >>"Dianatomi16"
      > > >> "Vindexeuropa" and
      > > >>"plongplong0525". (The last one I suspect is another spammer.)
      > > >>
      > > >>Why don't you all introduce yourselves and say what you're
      > > >interested in seeing on this group?
      > > >>
      > > >> And by the way, another reminder: Christmas is approaching
      > > >(Advent starts Nov. 30th), and we traditionally take a book to
      study
      > > together for
      > > >the 12 Holy Nights here. What might people be interested in
      reading
      > > >together?
      > > >>-Starman
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