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1642Re: islam; ahrimanic or luciferic?

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  • Br. Ron
    Apr 13, 2003
      Nice piece, Dr. Starman!

      Br. Ron

      > *******First of all, we should always keep in mind that the opposing
      > work together, so that there is never a purely Ahrimanic or purely
      > influence. Secondly, since a science must work on objective principles,
      > should remember the characterization of each: the evidence of the
      > of Luciferic beings is to increase egotism, to encourage the illusion of
      > self-sufficiency, and stimulate the feeling that there is no need to pay
      > attention to the body or the material world, that you by your thinking and
      > wishing can do everything. They stimulate the inner consciousness to an
      > extreme. { The "New Thought" movement of the 1800s and its descendants
      > Unity, Science of Mind, Course in Miracles etc., where people believe
      > thinking creates the reality around them, all those kind of philosophies
      > under the influence of Lucifer. The philosophy is not untrue but taken to
      > extreme.}
      > The opposite extreme is our modern science which says that there is
      > the material world and your material body, and your consciousness is
      > completely created and explained by your material brain. The Ahrimanic
      > spirits encourage every kind of thinking where the outer world has a fixed
      > reality apart from your self. The evidence of their operation is
      > heavily condensed thinking, where things are just as they are and your
      > thinking and wishing can't change them.
      > Since they are much more powerful than the Luciferic {being of the
      > of fallen Archangels where Lucifer is only a fallen Angel}, the
      > influence is over everything in our time, even Luciferic people. So, for
      > instance, the materialism of Karl Marx is completely Ahrimanic--- Lenin
      > had the face of Ahriman from Steiner's statue, as I've pointed out
      > previously--- but it took a powerful Luciferic personality like Stalin to
      > make it work in the Soviet Union, with his personality cult built around
      > himself. On the other side in World War II was a completely Luciferic
      > movement, Naziism, based on fantasy and the principle of following one
      > powerful personality (the Fuehrerprinzip), but it had to make use of a
      > industrial state and the material world. The former was
      > while the latter was Luciferic-Ahrimanic.
      > Most New Age movements are Luciferic, that is, consist of fantasy,
      > wishing, dreaming, and the belief that the inner self is all you need. It
      > also the case with the old Theosophical Society, and Steiner had to battle
      > that in order to get people grounded and able to accomplish anything. This
      > was because so many people in that movement were into Eastern religious
      > practices, which were all tainted by Lucifer when he incarnated about 3000
      > B.C. in the East. This is why they had the one-sided teaching of "Maya",
      > the outside world didn't actually exist. {It's unfortunate that many
      > attracted to Anthroposophy don't appreciate the great difference between
      > and these other new age things and still follow greatly unbalanced paths.}
      > Most religions in our time have become influenced by Lucifer, in other
      > words, don't deal with external reality as science does but rather,
      > secretly discredited by science, cede all actual knowledge of the outside
      > world to science, while retreating into the inner world and claiming
      > authority there. Steiner referred many times to this dualism in speaking,
      > instance, of the Jesuits and their harmful influence.
      > But as I said, even if things are Luciferic in our age, they are only
      > within an over-arching Ahrimanic coloring, so to speak. As William James
      > it when commenting on a group of philosophers who met and decided that
      > is no external reality, they still left by the door and not the window;
      > Luciferic Hitler needed German industrialism and the Ploesi oilfields,
      > to achieve his fantasy. While religions are generally Luciferic, they also
      > always have an Ahrimanic side, which is revealed by the degree they are
      > and unbending, believing in fate or destiny like Calvinism, or in laws
      > have been given and are fixed forever in a book. Roman Catholicism thus is
      > Ahrimanic with its refusal to go past the dead letter to the actual Spirit
      > itself, where most Protestant denominations have broken away from that to
      > greater or lesser degree. When you go away from the Ahrimanic pole, by
      > degrees you begin to approach the Luciferic one, and this is shown by how
      > much importance the philosophy or religion places on the individual.
      > Judaism with its Torah is Ahrimanic, where reformed Judaism has broken
      > and gotten a little more balance.
      > Now, Steiner has taught us clearly that there is no divine dictator
      > the world, that we can be free beings. A religion that believes that what
      > human beings must do is submit to the "will" of anin imaginary divine
      > dictator, that being free and following your own will is evil--- and that
      > addition believes that all truth was given out centuries ago and is all
      > contained in one book---shows to anyone who has any perception of Ahriman
      > that it is under his influence.
      > {The same is true, by the way, for Marxism, which is just another form
      > fundamentalist religion like any other. It believes that all individuals
      > submit to its imaginary higher authority, which in its case is the
      > government, and that exercising their freedom is evil, and that all truth
      > given out (by Saint Karl and Archbishop Vladimir) long ago and is
      > unchangeable. Within Marxist movements, you can find powerful Luciferic
      > personalities, but the philosophy itself is wholly materialistic.}
      > The United States is indeed Ahrimanic, as is all of Western
      > civilization---in fact all civilization--- in our present time. It
      > in the existence of the material world, quite the opposite of Luciferic
      > fantasy. The U.S. was created by merchants, and mercantile people have
      > powerful in our time because we have become more and more Ahrimanic as the
      > time approaches for his incarnation. But a truly Ahrimanic society is one
      > that places no value on the individual, sees the world as fated and ruled
      > iron law---as the Soviet Union was, and as the Islamic imams would make
      > theirs by forcing everyone to live under Shar'ia (Islamic law). Within
      > America, instead, we have a Hollywood, where Ahrimanic machinery of light,
      > sound and electricity converts fantasy images into a whole Luciferic
      > We have all the Luciferic religions and new age movements (which would be
      > exterminated under the absolute rule of Ahriman, as they were in the
      > Communist and Islamic worlds). We have a philosophy of freedom of the
      > individual (ditto). We have a free market economy instead of a "command
      > economy" dictated by the government. Any individual who wishes to become
      > entrepreneur can start any venture. Nothing like this would be found in
      > truly Ahrimanic social order.
      > So we could say that all modern governments by easily influenced by
      > Ahrmanic beings--- being rigid, mechanical things working by
      > but that in Western civilization, there has arisen a counterbalancing pole
      > respecting the freedom of the individual, which is the result of the
      > redeeming Lucifer. All the old Eastern ways of thinking which fear and
      > the individual ego, do not experience this working of the Christ. And it's
      > undeniable that Islam is an Eastern-oriented religion, one which does not
      > the central working on the Christ, but rather whose founder makes him into
      > just another prophet, just as the old Theosophists did and many other New
      > movements still do.
      > I would say that Islam, like communism, is heavily influenced by
      > but so is the whole world: the difference is that in some places in this
      > world, the counter-balancing influence of Lucifer through Christ is
      > to work. This working is what we call Western civilization, and it's no
      > accident that Steiner was born into it in order to start Anthroposophy. It
      > could only have been started in the Christian world. This
      > influence is not found in the Islamic world.
      > Thus, modern industrial civilization is Ahrimanic, and rigid religion
      > Ahrimanic, but within that, in some places, a state of balance is being
      > by a healthy working of the opposite pole, while in others Ahriman rules
      > completely. Islam as practiced in Turkey is in a relative state of
      > but in the rest of the Islamic world it is wholly Ahrimanic. (Steiner even
      > talked about this in relation to the personalities in the middle ages that
      > incarnated at the court of Haroun al Rashid, that the Arab learning was
      > by the opposing powers to increase materialism: he himself, in his former
      > incarnation as Thomas Aquinas, prevented it from spreading west and
      > corrupting Western civilization.) In America, Ahriman encourages
      > but the opposite pole and the working of the Christ is very, very
      > strong---thank God.
      > Happy Palm Sunday.
      > -Starman
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