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  • Trelane
    Nice try, but no save . :-) My point is these money collecting things are either scams or, worse, just plain stupid. As Janice (?) pointed out, these
    Message 1 of 108 , Apr 1, 2013
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      Nice try, but no "save". :-)

      My point is these money collecting things are either scams or, worse, just
      plain stupid. As Janice (?) pointed out, these properties are owned by
      others. Who's "holding" this "$4.0 million" all this time, anyway . . . and
      what're they doing with it? Living in Belair and driving a Lamborghini?

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      On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 1:32 AM, KAJ <rwkaj@...> wrote:

      > **
      >
      >
      > She has stayed busy. Just had a kid though, that might slow her down.
      >
      > ________________________________
      > From: Trelane <ltrelanel@...>
      > To: Star Trek One Yahoo Group <star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com>
      > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 9:02 PM
      > Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] The Next Gen Movie Project
      >
      > Kristen Bell . . . couldn't get her for $4.0 million? Really? She's just
      > got offers lined up that deep, huh? :-)
      >
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      > On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Chris Pollock <crissray@...> wrote:
      >
      > > **
      > >
      > >
      > > The True Image of Barsoom!
      > >
      > > ________________________________
      > > From: KAJ <rwkaj@...>
      > > To: "star-trek-one@yahoogroups.comstar-trek-one@yahoogroups.com>
      > > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 7:20:37 PM
      > > Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] The Next Gen Movie Project
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > You couldn't get even Kristen Bell for 4 million. But you could make a
      > > movie for way less, yeah. Hey! Bet they could R E B O O T Veronica Mars
      > > for 100K. Just call it Veronica Pluto or something;)
      > >
      > > ________________________________
      > > From: Trelane <ltrelanel@...>
      > > To: Star Trek One Yahoo Group <star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com>
      > > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 5:53 PM
      > > Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] The Next Gen Movie Project
      > >
      > > 'Clerks' was made for a piddling $25,000 YEARS ago. That's just one
      > example
      > > I had in mind. Yes. $4 million is plenty -- take a cut of the gross if
      > they
      > > have to have more money for talent or crew. A friend of mine went
      > > independent 4 years ago and he's in pre-release for a movie about the end
      > > of days, with tons of Special effects, crowd scenes, locations, etc. And
      > > he's WAY below $1.0 million. He hasn't confided in me, and I haven't
      > asked,
      > > but believe me, $4.0 million is PLENTY.
      > >
      > > The thing about film today is there's a plethora of VERY talented young
      > > people who can't find work and will gladly do a project for a cut, or
      > even
      > > just to list it on a resume . . . for experience. The other thing is
      > > WONDERS can be done just through the lens . . . look at the stuff being
      > > churned out these days by High School kids and younger. The production
      > > values LOOK fantastic . . . relatively speaking. :-)
      > >
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      > > On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 6:13 PM, <dizzheart@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > > **
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > In a message dated 3/31/2013 8:04:35 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
      > > > ltrelanel@... writes:
      > > >
      > > > Uh, yes, I do suspect it's some sort of SCAM. This Jessica Mars thing
      > has
      > > > been going on for a few years now. 4 million is PLENTY to get a movie
      > > made
      > > > these days (SOMEONE would do it) and I've never bought into this
      > > > "$4,000,000" figure, anyway...it seems to haven't moved since it
      > > > started...at about $4,000,000, by the way. >>>>
      > > >
      > > > Is it enough? Warner Bros. owns Veronica Mars. It's not enough to buy
      > > > the rights to VM, I'm sure, and have anything left over to start a
      > movie.
      > > > It
      > > > might be enough for seed money at WB -- to get a script, some
      > production
      > > > design, all that stuff started.
      > > >
      > > > From time to time I have talked with more naive fans who have No. Idea.
      > > of
      > > > all the work that goes into developing a project, how producers get
      > money
      > > > to pay for all that, all the practical things that have to happen
      > before
      > > > the first frame of film gets shot -- people who think that five bucks
      > and
      > > > good intentions will get a movie onscreen :)
      > > >
      > > > I suspect that anyone who thinks a major Trek movie can be made off
      > crowd
      > > > funding has a bit of that mindset. It all seems so simple to them, but
      > > > making a movie is a very complex project.
      > > >
      > > > There was a form of crowd funding in place at one time -- individuals
      > > > would start production companies, go public, pay no dividends, and sell
      > > > out the
      > > > company to a larger studio after a few years. The original shareholders
      > > > usually got little or nothing back on their investment except some nice
      > > > annual reports. I know ;)
      > > >
      > > > Janice
      > > >
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    • Luigi
      I m a bigger fan of TNG than many on here, but even I ll say give it a rest, man. It s been 11 years since the last TNG movie, it s over. If there s one thing
      Message 108 of 108 , Apr 6, 2013
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        I'm a bigger fan of TNG than many on here, but even I'll say give it a
        rest, man. It's been 11 years since the last TNG movie, it's over. If
        there's one thing Star Trek fans should be open to, it's looking forward
        to the future, not living in the past.

        Now if someone started a Kickstarter for an indie film based on NEW
        ideas for the Star Trek universe, I could get excited about that. They
        might even be able to put in cameos from the TNG cast like Dr. Soong on
        Enterprise.
        -Luigi

        On 04/01/2013 10:02 PM, Barry wrote:
        >
        > Geez Janice and Beth don't you think you're both kinda splitting hairs
        > here. Yes Paramount/CBS technically own Star Trek. But if it wasn't
        > for us, THE FANS, Star Trek would be in the distant past like Lost in
        > Space. I think its safe to say we have some pull don't you? Was it not
        > the fans that resurrected the original show? Need I go on! Now can we
        > PLEASE stop all the quibbling and talking about blow up dolls and talk
        > Star Trek. Please! VM has raised over 4.3 million dollars so far(11
        > days to go)with a FRACTION of the fan base Star Trek has. A FRACTION!
        > Obviously Star Trek needs a much larger budget. To counter, Trek has a
        > MUCH LARGER fan base! But lets forget the details and just focus on
        > whether or not the fans want this. DO YOU WANT ANOTHER NEXT GEN
        > MOVIE(2 max) TO GIVE TNG A PROPER SEND OFF? Yes or No? If the answer
        > is NO that is fine! Let's just stay locked on the main topic and not
        > drift off into more silly threads. I've addressed the main issues, the
        > age one(again and again), The Brent Spiner/Data factor, The
        > Kickstarter issue. etc. One would think Star Trek fans would be open
        > to the possibilities and the challenges. Now I'll ask once again, if
        > it were possible, hypothetically, do YOU want this?
        >
        > ~ Barry
        >
        >
        > PS- UGH!
        >

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