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  • KAJ
    Relax Lisa, thats a lefties way of saying they made a silly statement and cannot back it up;) ________________________________ From: Lisa Coppedge
    Message 1 of 17 , Jul 3, 2012
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      Relax Lisa, thats a lefties way of saying they made a silly statement and cannot back it up;)


      ________________________________
      From: Lisa Coppedge <firestaralpha@...>
      To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:34 PM
      Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)


       
      Those of us on the right have minds. We may sometimes not seem like it as our views are often considered archaic and old fashioned. You know values like duty, honor hard work self reliance and, sacrifice and service to our families, country and world. I admit those values are a bit narrow and a bit hard to conceive by some. However we do our best at them. While there are many great things about the ideals of TOS Start Trek a few of them worried me. I hated the idea of reeducation camps, everyone getting something without an effort or need to work and achieve. However at the same time the idea of a safety net has appeal. Its one of those catch 22 situations you like the idea of it but the down side is oh so clear. Then again I'm a fully admitted conservative despite my self at times. I guess it goes with being a little close minded and hard to move.
      Fire

      --- On Fri, 6/29/12, Chris <christian_meurerxx@...> wrote:

      From: Chris <christian_meurerxx@...>
      Subject: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)
      To: "ST1" <star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com>
      Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 11:38 PM

       

      Well, if you fail to ask a question, nobody would be able to give an answer. Not even lefties, who are used to answer all kinds of unasked questions, but can't really penetrate the minds of right-winged folks. Not that there usually is much of a mind to penetrate there, but without any hint whatsoever... I'm afraid you stumped me. ;-)

      Chris

      Posted by: "KAJ"

      See? Can't even get a straight answer from a lefty, much less negotiate;)

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    • Beth
      Lefties, righties does it matter? The end result is Goldman Sachs.   Thank God in the Trek future they have gotten rid of all the banks and people lining
      Message 2 of 17 , Jul 3, 2012
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        Lefties, righties does it matter? The end result is Goldman Sachs.
         
        Thank God in the Trek future they have gotten rid of all the banks and people lining their pockets.
         
        Beth

         
        Relax Lisa, thats a lefties way of saying they made a silly statement and cannot back it up;)

        ________________________________
        From: Lisa Coppedge <mailto:firestaralpha%40yahoo.com>
        To: mailto:star-trek-one%40yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:34 PM
        Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)


         
        Those of us on the right have minds. We may sometimes not seem like it as our views are often considered archaic and old fashioned. You know values like duty, honor hard work self reliance and, sacrifice and service to our families, country and world. I admit those values are a bit narrow and a bit hard to conceive by some. However we do our best at them. While there are many great things about the ideals of TOS Start Trek a few of them worried me. I hated the idea of reeducation camps, everyone getting something without an effort or need to work and achieve. However at the same time the idea of a safety net has appeal. Its one of those catch 22 situations you like the idea of it but the down side is oh so clear. Then again I'm a fully admitted conservative despite my self at times. I guess it goes with being a little close minded and hard to move.
        Fire

        --- On Fri, 6/29/12, Chris <mailto:christian_meurerxx%40yahoo.de> wrote:

        From: Chris <mailto:christian_meurerxx%40yahoo.de>
        Subject: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)
        To: "ST1" <mailto:star-trek-one%40yahoogroups.com>
        Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 11:38 PM

         

        Well, if you fail to ask a question, nobody would be able to give an answer. Not even lefties, who are used to answer all kinds of unasked questions, but can't really penetrate the minds of right-winged folks. Not that there usually is much of a mind to penetrate there, but without any hint whatsoever... I'm afraid you stumped me. ;-)

        Chris

        Posted by: "KAJ"

        See? Can't even get a straight answer from a lefty, much less negotiate;)

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      • john surphlis
        don t forget that in TOS they still had a form of money but it was called credit, just like today s world is become cashless, i get my pension put into my
        Message 3 of 17 , Jul 3, 2012
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          don't forget that in TOS they still had a form of money but it was called credit, just like today's world is become cashless, i get my pension put into my account every month, rent and bills come out, and with my debit card i don't really need cash, i get weekly cash to do my grocery shopping unless i use a online store then debit card at my door, which is nice, only cash i need is for local transit, they don't take debit card . thanks john
          To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
          From: mccall3815@...
          Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 08:23:10 -0700
          Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)






























          Lefties, righties does it matter? The end result is Goldman Sachs.



          Thank God in the Trek future they have gotten rid of all the banks and people lining their pockets.



          Beth





          Relax Lisa, thats a lefties way of saying they made a silly statement and cannot back it up;)



          ________________________________

          From: Lisa Coppedge <mailto:firestaralpha%40yahoo.com>

          To: mailto:star-trek-one%40yahoogroups.com

          Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:34 PM

          Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)





          Those of us on the right have minds. We may sometimes not seem like it as our views are often considered archaic and old fashioned. You know values like duty, honor hard work self reliance and, sacrifice and service to our families, country and world. I admit those values are a bit narrow and a bit hard to conceive by some. However we do our best at them. While there are many great things about the ideals of TOS Start Trek a few of them worried me. I hated the idea of reeducation camps, everyone getting something without an effort or need to work and achieve. However at the same time the idea of a safety net has appeal. Its one of those catch 22 situations you like the idea of it but the down side is oh so clear. Then again I'm a fully admitted conservative despite my self at times. I guess it goes with being a little close minded and hard to move.

          Fire



          --- On Fri, 6/29/12, Chris <mailto:christian_meurerxx%40yahoo.de> wrote:



          From: Chris <mailto:christian_meurerxx%40yahoo.de>

          Subject: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)

          To: "ST1" <mailto:star-trek-one%40yahoogroups.com>

          Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 11:38 PM







          Well, if you fail to ask a question, nobody would be able to give an answer. Not even lefties, who are used to answer all kinds of unasked questions, but can't really penetrate the minds of right-winged folks. Not that there usually is much of a mind to penetrate there, but without any hint whatsoever... I'm afraid you stumped me. ;-)



          Chris



          Posted by: "KAJ"



          See? Can't even get a straight answer from a lefty, much less negotiate;)



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        • KAJ
          Latinum is good;)  Check this out! http://dornob.com/transparent-aluminum-glass-like-see-through-metal/?ref=search  ________________________________ From:
          Message 4 of 17 , Jul 3, 2012
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            Latinum is good;)  Check this out!

            http://dornob.com/transparent-aluminum-glass-like-see-through-metal/?ref=search%c2%a0



            ________________________________
            From: Beth <mccall3815@...>
            To: "star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com" <star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 10:23 AM
            Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)


             


            Lefties, righties does it matter? The end result is Goldman Sachs.
             
            Thank God in the Trek future they have gotten rid of all the banks and people lining their pockets.
             
            Beth

             
            Relax Lisa, thats a lefties way of saying they made a silly statement and cannot back it up;)

            ________________________________
            From: Lisa Coppedge <mailto:firestaralpha%40yahoo.com>
            To: mailto:star-trek-one%40yahoogroups.com
            Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:34 PM
            Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)

             
            Those of us on the right have minds. We may sometimes not seem like it as our views are often considered archaic and old fashioned. You know values like duty, honor hard work self reliance and, sacrifice and service to our families, country and world. I admit those values are a bit narrow and a bit hard to conceive by some. However we do our best at them. While there are many great things about the ideals of TOS Start Trek a few of them worried me. I hated the idea of reeducation camps, everyone getting something without an effort or need to work and achieve. However at the same time the idea of a safety net has appeal. Its one of those catch 22 situations you like the idea of it but the down side is oh so clear. Then again I'm a fully admitted conservative despite my self at times. I guess it goes with being a little close minded and hard to move.
            Fire

            --- On Fri, 6/29/12, Chris <mailto:christian_meurerxx%40yahoo.de> wrote:

            From: Chris <mailto:christian_meurerxx%40yahoo.de>
            Subject: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)
            To: "ST1" <mailto:star-trek-one%40yahoogroups.com>
            Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 11:38 PM

             

            Well, if you fail to ask a question, nobody would be able to give an answer. Not even lefties, who are used to answer all kinds of unasked questions, but can't really penetrate the minds of right-winged folks. Not that there usually is much of a mind to penetrate there, but without any hint whatsoever... I'm afraid you stumped me. ;-)

            Chris

            Posted by: "KAJ"

            See? Can't even get a straight answer from a lefty, much less negotiate;)

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          • dizzheart@aol.com
            In a message dated 7/3/2012 8:23:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, mccall3815@yahoo.com writes: Thank God in the Trek future they have gotten rid of all the banks
            Message 5 of 17 , Jul 3, 2012
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              In a message dated 7/3/2012 8:23:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
              mccall3815@... writes:

              Thank God in the Trek future they have gotten rid of all the banks and
              people lining their pockets. >>



              Yeah, apparently they're back to the 6 chickens = 1 Jeffries tube form of
              direct exchange ;)

              How are those chickens doing?

              Janice





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            • Chris
              Yeah, it kinda is the equivalent of a righty not being able to constructively contribute to a discussion. ;-) Pointless repetitions, rhetorical questions VS.
              Message 6 of 17 , Jul 3, 2012
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                Yeah, it kinda is the equivalent of a righty not being able to constructively contribute to a discussion. ;-)
                Pointless repetitions, rhetorical questions VS. progressive, sometimes abstracted ideas... hard to find some common ground there. Although I believe we all are generally benevolent in here, so that's cool enough for me.

                Chris




                --- In star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com, KAJ wrote:
                >
                > Relax Lisa, thats a lefties way of saying they made a silly statement and cannot back it up;)
                >
                >
              • Chris
                Well, this kind of turbo-capitalism certainly is a right-wing idea. Lefties can t be blamed for that! Maybe except for literally collapsing in the 90s and
                Message 7 of 17 , Jul 3, 2012
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                  Well, this kind of turbo-capitalism certainly is a right-wing idea. Lefties can't be blamed for that! Maybe except for literally collapsing in the 90s and unresistingly handing everything over. Now that the other extreme is also breaking down, it's time for the most natural thing: A compromise!






                  --- In star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com, Beth wrote:
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                  > Lefties, righties does it matter? The end result is Goldman Sachs.
                  >
                  > Thank God in the Trek future they have gotten rid of all the banks and people lining their pockets.
                  >
                  > Beth
                  >
                • KAJ
                  So how would you compromise with the Borg? ________________________________ From: Chris To: ST1
                  Message 8 of 17 , Jul 4, 2012
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                    So how would you compromise with the Borg?


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                    From: Chris <christian_meurerxx@...>
                    To: ST1 <star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com>
                    Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 10:47 PM
                    Subject: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)


                     
                    Well, this kind of turbo-capitalism certainly is a right-wing idea. Lefties can't be blamed for that! Maybe except for literally collapsing in the 90s and unresistingly handing everything over. Now that the other extreme is also breaking down, it's time for the most natural thing: A compromise!

                    --- In star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com, Beth wrote:
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Lefties, righties does it matter? The end result is Goldman Sachs.
                    >
                    > Thank God in the Trek future they have gotten rid of all the banks and people lining their pockets.
                    >
                    > Beth
                    >




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                  • KAJ
                    Yeah, but we never saw Earth in TOS.  Aside from SF headquarters in TMP and 4 and maybe 5? ________________________________ From: john surphlis
                    Message 9 of 17 , Jul 8, 2012
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                      Yeah, but we never saw Earth in TOS.  Aside from SF headquarters in TMP and 4 and maybe 5?


                      ________________________________
                      From: john surphlis <littlejohn57@...>
                      To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 10:31 AM
                      Subject: RE: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)


                       

                      don't forget that in TOS they still had a form of money but it was called credit, just like today's world is become cashless, i get my pension put into my account every month, rent and bills come out, and with my debit card i don't really need cash, i get weekly cash to do my grocery shopping unless i use a online store then debit card at my door, which is nice, only cash i need is for local transit, they don't take debit card . thanks john
                      To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
                      From: mccall3815@...
                      Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 08:23:10 -0700
                      Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)

                      Lefties, righties does it matter? The end result is Goldman Sachs.

                      Thank God in the Trek future they have gotten rid of all the banks and people lining their pockets.

                      Beth

                      Relax Lisa, thats a lefties way of saying they made a silly statement and cannot back it up;)

                      ________________________________

                      From: Lisa Coppedge <mailto:firestaralpha%40yahoo.com>

                      To: mailto:star-trek-one%40yahoogroups.com

                      Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:34 PM

                      Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)

                      Those of us on the right have minds. We may sometimes not seem like it as our views are often considered archaic and old fashioned. You know values like duty, honor hard work self reliance and, sacrifice and service to our families, country and world. I admit those values are a bit narrow and a bit hard to conceive by some. However we do our best at them. While there are many great things about the ideals of TOS Start Trek a few of them worried me. I hated the idea of reeducation camps, everyone getting something without an effort or need to work and achieve. However at the same time the idea of a safety net has appeal. Its one of those catch 22 situations you like the idea of it but the down side is oh so clear. Then again I'm a fully admitted conservative despite my self at times. I guess it goes with being a little close minded and hard to move.

                      Fire

                      --- On Fri, 6/29/12, Chris <mailto:christian_meurerxx%40yahoo.de> wrote:

                      From: Chris <mailto:christian_meurerxx%40yahoo.de>

                      Subject: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)

                      To: "ST1" <mailto:star-trek-one%40yahoogroups.com>

                      Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 11:38 PM

                      Well, if you fail to ask a question, nobody would be able to give an answer. Not even lefties, who are used to answer all kinds of unasked questions, but can't really penetrate the minds of right-winged folks. Not that there usually is much of a mind to penetrate there, but without any hint whatsoever... I'm afraid you stumped me. ;-)

                      Chris

                      Posted by: "KAJ"

                      See? Can't even get a straight answer from a lefty, much less negotiate;)

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                    • john surphlis
                      to bad never did a few shows about earth in the 24th centrury, still be nice to see our world, deepspace nine had some and sso did voyers, and enterprise.
                      Message 10 of 17 , Jul 8, 2012
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                        to bad never did a few shows about earth in the 24th centrury, still be nice to see our world, deepspace nine had some and sso did voyers, and enterprise. thanks john
                        To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
                        From: rwkaj@...
                        Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 09:01:09 -0700
                        Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)


























                        Yeah, but we never saw Earth in TOS. Aside from SF headquarters in TMP and 4 and maybe 5?



                        ________________________________

                        From: john surphlis <littlejohn57@...>

                        To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com

                        Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2012 10:31 AM

                        Subject: RE: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)









                        don't forget that in TOS they still had a form of money but it was called credit, just like today's world is become cashless, i get my pension put into my account every month, rent and bills come out, and with my debit card i don't really need cash, i get weekly cash to do my grocery shopping unless i use a online store then debit card at my door, which is nice, only cash i need is for local transit, they don't take debit card . thanks john

                        To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com

                        From: mccall3815@...

                        Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 08:23:10 -0700

                        Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)



                        Lefties, righties does it matter? The end result is Goldman Sachs.



                        Thank God in the Trek future they have gotten rid of all the banks and people lining their pockets.



                        Beth



                        Relax Lisa, thats a lefties way of saying they made a silly statement and cannot back it up;)



                        ________________________________



                        From: Lisa Coppedge <mailto:firestaralpha%40yahoo.com>



                        To: mailto:star-trek-one%40yahoogroups.com



                        Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:34 PM



                        Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)



                        Those of us on the right have minds. We may sometimes not seem like it as our views are often considered archaic and old fashioned. You know values like duty, honor hard work self reliance and, sacrifice and service to our families, country and world. I admit those values are a bit narrow and a bit hard to conceive by some. However we do our best at them. While there are many great things about the ideals of TOS Start Trek a few of them worried me. I hated the idea of reeducation camps, everyone getting something without an effort or need to work and achieve. However at the same time the idea of a safety net has appeal. Its one of those catch 22 situations you like the idea of it but the down side is oh so clear. Then again I'm a fully admitted conservative despite my self at times. I guess it goes with being a little close minded and hard to move.



                        Fire



                        --- On Fri, 6/29/12, Chris <mailto:christian_meurerxx%40yahoo.de> wrote:



                        From: Chris <mailto:christian_meurerxx%40yahoo.de>



                        Subject: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)



                        To: "ST1" <mailto:star-trek-one%40yahoogroups.com>



                        Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 11:38 PM



                        Well, if you fail to ask a question, nobody would be able to give an answer. Not even lefties, who are used to answer all kinds of unasked questions, but can't really penetrate the minds of right-winged folks. Not that there usually is much of a mind to penetrate there, but without any hint whatsoever... I'm afraid you stumped me. ;-)



                        Chris



                        Posted by: "KAJ"



                        See? Can't even get a straight answer from a lefty, much less negotiate;)



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                      • dizzheart@aol.com
                        The argument of the moneyless society faction is that there is no money, period - either as cash or credit/debit - despite numerous references to monetary
                        Message 11 of 17 , Jul 8, 2012
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                          The argument of the 'moneyless society' faction is that there is no money,
                          period - either as cash or credit/debit - despite numerous references to
                          monetary exchanges :)

                          I agree with you - physical coins and bills may have fallen out of use,
                          but for ordinary use there's still a medium of exchange and some bank or
                          bank-like agency to facilitate it.

                          Janice



                          In a message dated 7/8/2012 3:13:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
                          littlejohn57@... writes:


                          don't forget that in TOS they still had a form of money but it was called
                          credit, just like today's world is become cashless, i get my pension put
                          into my account every month, rent and bills come out, and with my debit card
                          i don't really need cash, i get weekly cash to do my grocery shopping
                          unless i use a online store then debit card at my door, which is nice, only cash
                          i need is for local transit, they don't take debit card . thanks john
                          To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
                          From: mccall3815@...
                          Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 08:23:10 -0700
                          Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)






























                          Lefties, righties does it matter? The end result is Goldman Sachs.



                          Thank God in the Trek future they have gotten rid of all the banks and
                          people lining their pockets.



                          Beth





                          Relax Lisa, thats a lefties way of saying they made a silly statement and
                          cannot back it up;)



                          ________________________________

                          From: Lisa Coppedge <mailto:firestaralpha%40yahoo.com>

                          To: mailto:star-trek-one%40yahoogroups.com

                          Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 8:34 PM

                          Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)





                          Those of us on the right have minds. We may sometimes not seem like it as
                          our views are often considered archaic and old fashioned. You know values
                          like duty, honor hard work self reliance and, sacrifice and service to our
                          families, country and world. I admit those values are a bit narrow and a bit
                          hard to conceive by some. However we do our best at them. While there are
                          many great things about the ideals of TOS Start Trek a few of them worried
                          me. I hated the idea of reeducation camps, everyone getting something
                          without an effort or need to work and achieve. However at the same time the idea
                          of a safety net has appeal. Its one of those catch 22 situations you like
                          the idea of it but the down side is oh so clear. Then again I'm a fully
                          admitted conservative despite my self at times. I guess it goes with being a
                          little close minded and hard to move.

                          Fire



                          --- On Fri, 6/29/12, Chris <mailto:christian_meurerxx%40yahoo.de> wrote:



                          From: Chris <mailto:christian_meurerxx%40yahoo.de>

                          Subject: [ST1-LCN] Re: Calling Chris out;)

                          To: "ST1" <mailto:star-trek-one%40yahoogroups.com>

                          Date: Friday, June 29, 2012, 11:38 PM







                          Well, if you fail to ask a question, nobody would be able to give an
                          answer. Not even lefties, who are used to answer all kinds of unasked questions,
                          but can't really penetrate the minds of right-winged folks. Not that there
                          usually is much of a mind to penetrate there, but without any hint
                          whatsoever... I'm afraid you stumped me. ;-)



                          Chris



                          Posted by: "KAJ"



                          See? Can't even get a straight answer from a lefty, much less negotiate;)



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                        • The Sweetest
                          ... [ATA]But take into account that the credits are used by all peoples and I m gusessing the point Beth tried to make goes to the fact tha humans in human
                          Message 12 of 17 , Jul 22, 2012
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                            > don't forget that in TOS they still had a form of money but it was called
                            > credit,

                            [ATA]But take into account that the credits are used by all peoples
                            and I'm gusessing the point Beth tried to make goes to the fact tha
                            humans in human scenarios don't use money because they got rid of it.
                            But as always, it must be clear that this is regarding humans in
                            strictly non-deep=space scenarios.

                            And even if they still use a form of currency, it will be for
                            practicality and or evils associated with money are gone; again,
                            applying this to humans.
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