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  • Jeff Chanowski
    Thats the rumor although some rumors have them showing Kirk and Spock at the academy first. If anyone would be outside their known job it would probably be
    Message 1 of 28 , Sep 1, 2007
      Thats the rumor although some rumors have them showing Kirk and Spock at the academy first. If anyone would be outside their known job it would probably be Sulu as he was not the helmsman in the "Cage". Franco

      Rob wrote:
      > Ok, here is what I think the JJ Abrams Star Trek movie
      > will be about. Quite simply, forget the Acadmey.
      > There's no way that will work. But what WILL work is
      > Kirk's First Mission aboard the Enterprise. He can
      > have the whole crew, even Chekov, who may be in
      > engineering at the time (remember Riley was from there
      > and getting 'sent down' was considered a demotion. As
      > an engineer during my military service, I consider
      > this an insult!), without violating any (gag) Canon at
      > all. Just think, the first mission of the USS
      > Enterprise With Kirk in the Center Seat... I can see
      > the Kirkites shaking with joy already...
      > "People shouldn't fear their governments. Governments should fear their people."
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    • Rob
      True. Wasn t he an astrogator or a botanist? ... ...
      Message 2 of 28 , Sep 1, 2007
        True. Wasn't he an astrogator or a botanist?

        --- Jeff Chanowski <francocavs@...> wrote:

        > Thats the rumor although some rumors have them
        > showing Kirk and Spock at the academy first. If
        > anyone would be outside their known job it would
        > probably be Sulu as he was not the helmsman in the
        > "Cage". Franco
        >
        > Rob wrote:
        > > Ok, here is what I think the JJ Abrams
        > Star Trek movie
        > > will be about. Quite simply, forget the Acadmey.
        > > There's no way that will work. But what WILL work
        > is
        > > Kirk's First Mission aboard the Enterprise. He can
        >
        > > have the whole crew, even Chekov, who may be in
        > > engineering at the time (remember Riley was from
        > there
        > > and getting 'sent down' was considered a demotion.
        > As
        > > an engineer during my military service, I consider
        >
        > > this an insult!), without violating any (gag)
        > Canon at
        > > all. Just think, the first mission of the USS
        > > Enterprise With Kirk in the Center Seat... I can
        > see
        > > the Kirkites shaking with joy already...
        > > "People shouldn't fear their governments.
        > Governments should fear their people."
        > > V From V For Vendetta
        > > ____________ _________ _________ _________
        > _________ _________ _
        > > Need a vacation? Get great deals
        > > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
        > > http://travel. yahoo.com/
        > >
        >
        >
        >
        >
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      • terri lee
        Hi this is complicated but I will try to get it right! The way I hear it it goes like this the past series are a holographical replication of history and this
        Message 3 of 28 , Sep 1, 2007
          Hi this is complicated but I will try to get it right!
          The way I hear it it goes like this the past series are a holographical replication of history and this movie follows on from Nemesis and the romulan war where Riker and Deanna have done wonders.
          So the Romulans are asking questions aboyt the federations history and this is the truth.
          If there is a bit of truth it is where Jnaeway goes back into Tuvoks past and meets Sulu / George Takei and says" thats not what he looked like" etc.
          As I said thts just the way I heard it but it sounds okay.
          A lot better than Shatner losing it at the conventiton and shouting " I am Captain Kirk, I am Captain Kirk" Silly sausage.


          Jeff Chanowski <francocavs@...> wrote:
          Thats the rumor although some rumors have them showing Kirk and Spock at the academy first. If anyone would be outside their known job it would probably be Sulu as he was not the helmsman in the "Cage". Franco

          Rob wrote:
          > Ok, here is what I think the JJ Abrams Star Trek movie
          > will be about. Quite simply, forget the Acadmey.
          > There's no way that will work. But what WILL work is
          > Kirk's First Mission aboard the Enterprise. He can
          > have the whole crew, even Chekov, who may be in
          > engineering at the time (remember Riley was from there
          > and getting 'sent down' was considered a demotion. As
          > an engineer during my military service, I consider
          > this an insult!), without violating any (gag) Canon at
          > all. Just think, the first mission of the USS
          > Enterprise With Kirk in the Center Seat... I can see
          > the Kirkites shaking with joy already...
          > "People shouldn't fear their governments. Governments should fear their people."
          > V From V For Vendetta
          > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
          > Need a vacation? Get great deals
          > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
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        • Jeff Chanowski
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          Message 4 of 28 , Sep 1, 2007
            ????????? Franco

            terri lee wrote:
            > Hi this is complicated but I will try to get it right!
            > The way I hear it it goes like this the past series are a holographical replication of history and this movie follows on from Nemesis and the romulan war where Riker and Deanna have done wonders.
            > So the Romulans are asking questions aboyt the federations history and this is the truth.
            > If there is a bit of truth it is where Jnaeway goes back into Tuvoks past and meets Sulu / George Takei and says" thats not what he looked like" etc.
            > As I said thts just the way I heard it but it sounds okay.
            > A lot better than Shatner losing it at the conventiton and shouting " I am Captain Kirk, I am Captain Kirk" Silly sausage.
            > Jeff Chanowski < francocavs@yahoo. com > wrote:
            > Thats the rumor although some rumors have them showing Kirk and Spock at the academy first. If anyone would be outside their known job it would probably be Sulu as he was not the helmsman in the "Cage" . Franco
            > Rob wrote:
            >> Ok, here is what I think the JJ Abrams Star Trek movie
            >> will be about. Quite simply, forget the Acadmey.
            >> There's no way that will work. But what WILL work is
            >> Kirk's First Mission aboard the Enterprise. He can
            >> have the whole crew, even Chekov, who may be in
            >> engineering at the time (remember Riley was from there
            >> and getting 'sent down' was considered a demotion. As
            >> an engineer during my military service, I consider
            >> this an insult!), without violating any (gag) Canon at
            >> all. Just think, the first mission of the USS
            >> Enterprise With Kirk in the Center Seat... I can see
            >> the Kirkites shaking with joy already...
            >> "People shouldn't fear their governments. Governments should fear their people."
            >> V From V For Vendetta
            >> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
            >> Need a vacation? Get great deals
            >> to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
            >> http://travel. yahoo.com/
            >>
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          • Jeff Chanowski
            Very good question. I will have to find that ep and watch it again. Franco ...
            Message 5 of 28 , Sep 1, 2007
              Very good question. I will have to find that ep and watch it again. Franco

              Rob wrote:
              > True. Wasn't he an astrogator or a botanist?
              > --- Jeff Chanowski < francocavs@yahoo. com > wrote:
              >> Thats the rumor although some rumors have them
              >> showing Kirk and Spock at the academy first. If
              >> anyone would be outside their known job it would
              >> probably be Sulu as he was not the helmsman in the
              >> "Cage" . Franco
              >>
              >> Rob wrote:
              >> > Ok, here is what I think the JJ Abrams
              >> Star Trek movie
              >> > will be about. Quite simply, forget the Acadmey.
              >> > There's no way that will work. But what WILL work
              >> is
              >> > Kirk's First Mission aboard the Enterprise. He can
              >>
              >> > have the whole crew, even Chekov, who may be in
              >> > engineering at the time (remember Riley was from
              >> there
              >> > and getting 'sent down' was considered a demotion.
              >> As
              >> > an engineer during my military service, I consider
              >>
              >> > this an insult!), without violating any (gag)
              >> Canon at
              >> > all. Just think, the first mission of the USS
              >> > Enterprise With Kirk in the Center Seat... I can
              >> see
              >> > the Kirkites shaking with joy already...
              >> > "People shouldn't fear their governments.
              >> Governments should fear their people."
              >> > V From V For Vendetta
              >> > ____________ _________ _________ _________
              >> _________ _________ _
              >> > Need a vacation? Get great deals
              >> > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
              >> > http://travel. yahoo.com/
              >> >
              >>
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            • n1684t@aol.com
              My God Jim......It sounds worse than STV and Nemesis combined! KAJ In a message dated 9/1/2007 11:04:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, francocavs@yahoo.com
              Message 6 of 28 , Sep 1, 2007
                My God Jim......It sounds worse than STV and Nemesis combined!

                KAJ




                In a message dated 9/1/2007 11:04:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
                francocavs@... writes:

                ????????? Franco

                terri lee wrote:
                > Hi this is complicated but I will try to get it right!
                > The way I hear it it goes like this the past series are a holographical
                replication of history and this movie follows on from Nemesis and the romulan
                war where Riker and Deanna have done wonders.
                > So the Romulans are asking questions aboyt the federations history and
                this is the truth.
                > If there is a bit of truth it is where Jnaeway goes back into Tuvoks past
                and meets Sulu / George Takei and says" thats not what he looked like" etc.
                > As I said thts just the way I heard it but it sounds okay.
                > A lot better than Shatner losing it at the conventiton and shouting " I am
                Captain Kirk, I am Captain Kirk" Silly sausage.
                > Jeff Chanowski < francocavs@yahoo. com > wrote:
                > Thats the rumor although some rumors have them showing Kirk and Spock at
                the academy first. If anyone would be outside their known job it would
                probably be Sulu as he was not the helmsman in the "Cage" . Franco
                > Rob wrote:
                >> Ok, here is what I think the JJ Abrams Star Trek movie
                >> will be about. Quite simply, forget the Acadmey.
                >> There's no way that will work. But what WILL work is
                >> Kirk's First Mission aboard the Enterprise. He can
                >> have the whole crew, even Chekov, who may be in
                >> engineering at the time (remember Riley was from there
                >> and getting 'sent down' was considered a demotion. As
                >> an engineer during my military service, I consider
                >> this an insult!), without violating any (gag) Canon at
                >> all. Just think, the first mission of the USS
                >> Enterprise With Kirk in the Center Seat... I can see
                >> the Kirkites shaking with joy already...
                >> "People shouldn't fear their governments. Governments should fear their
                people."
                >> V From V For Vendetta
                >> ____________ _________ _________






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              • The Sweetest
                ... [ATA]There is no real problema with an Academy movie. Sure, it is diffciult to make and keep the respect Trek deserves. Ceratinly anyone here in this list
                Message 7 of 28 , Sep 1, 2007
                  > Ok, here is what I think the JJ Abrams Star Trek movie
                  > will be about. Quite simply, forget the Acadmey.
                  > There's no way that will work. But what WILL work is
                  > Kirk's First Mission aboard the Enterprise. He can
                  > have the whole crew, even Chekov, who may be in

                  [ATA]There is no real problema with an Academy movie. Sure, it is diffciult
                  to make and keep the respect Trek deserves. Ceratinly anyone here in this list
                  can do it.

                  As for the first mission thing. certainly a great next movie.
                • Jeff
                  I think the title was head of Xenobiology. It was the episode with the salt vampire that first establish it. He was also a Helmsman. The bridge duty was
                  Message 8 of 28 , Sep 2, 2007
                    I think the title was head of Xenobiology. It was the episode with the
                    salt vampire that first establish it. He was also a Helmsman. The
                    bridge duty was rotated. Lots of positions are rotated amongst various
                    officers so that in an emergency there is a redundacy in case the
                    whole bridge crew is killed. In TNG Dr. Crusher was in the bridge
                    rotation.

                    JP

                    --- In star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Chanowski <francocavs@...>
                    wrote:
                    >
                    > Very good question. I will have to find that ep and watch it again.
                    Franco
                    >
                    > Rob wrote:
                    > > True. Wasn't he an astrogator or a botanist?
                    > > --- Jeff Chanowski < francocavs@yahoo. com > wrote:
                    > >> Thats the rumor although some rumors have them
                    > >> showing Kirk and Spock at the academy first. If
                    > >> anyone would be outside their known job it would
                    > >> probably be Sulu as he was not the helmsman in the
                    > >> "Cage" . Franco
                    > >>
                    > >> Rob wrote:
                    > >> > Ok, here is what I think the JJ Abrams
                    > >> Star Trek movie
                    > >> > will be about. Quite simply, forget the Acadmey.
                    > >> > There's no way that will work. But what WILL work
                    > >> is
                    > >> > Kirk's First Mission aboard the Enterprise. He can
                    > >>
                    > >> > have the whole crew, even Chekov, who may be in
                    > >> > engineering at the time (remember Riley was from
                    > >> there
                    > >> > and getting 'sent down' was considered a demotion.
                    > >> As
                    > >> > an engineer during my military service, I consider
                    > >>
                    > >> > this an insult!), without violating any (gag)
                    > >> Canon at
                    > >> > all. Just think, the first mission of the USS
                    > >> > Enterprise With Kirk in the Center Seat... I can
                    > >> see
                    > >> > the Kirkites shaking with joy already...
                    > >> > "People shouldn't fear their governments.
                    > >> Governments should fear their people."
                    > >> > V From V For Vendetta
                    > >> > ____________ _________ _________ _________
                    > >> _________ _________ _
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                  • Jeff Chanowski
                    Sulu was a department head in "The Cage". Which dep is the question? Franco ...
                    Message 9 of 28 , Sep 2, 2007
                      Sulu was a department head in "The Cage". Which dep is the question? Franco

                      Jeff wrote:
                      > I think the title was head of Xenobiology. It was the episode with the
                      > salt vampire that first establish it. He was also a Helmsman. The
                      > bridge duty was rotated. Lots of positions are rotated amongst various
                      > officers so that in an emergency there is a redundacy in case the
                      > whole bridge crew is killed. In TNG Dr. Crusher was in the bridge
                      > rotation.
                      > JP
                      > --- In star-trek-one@ yahoogroups. com , Jeff Chanowski <francocavs@ ...>
                      > wrote:
                      >>
                      >> Very good question. I will have to find that ep and watch it again.
                      > Franco
                      >>
                      >> Rob wrote:
                      >> > True. Wasn't he an astrogator or a botanist?
                      >> > --- Jeff Chanowski < francocavs@yahoo. com > wrote:
                      >> >> Thats the rumor although some rumors have them
                      >> >> showing Kirk and Spock at the academy first. If
                      >> >> anyone would be outside their known job it would
                      >> >> probably be Sulu as he was not the helmsman in the
                      >> >> "Cage" . Franco
                      >> >>
                      >> >> Rob wrote:
                      >> >> > Ok, here is what I think the JJ Abrams
                      >> >> Star Trek movie
                      >> >> > will be about. Quite simply, forget the Acadmey.
                      >> >> > There's no way that will work. But what WILL work
                      >> >> is
                      >> >> > Kirk's First Mission aboard the Enterprise. He can
                      >> >>
                      >> >> > have the whole crew, even Chekov, who may be in
                      >> >> > engineering at the time (remember Riley was from
                      >> >> there
                      >> >> > and getting 'sent down' was considered a demotion.
                      >> >> As
                      >> >> > an engineer during my military service, I consider
                      >> >>
                      >> >> > this an insult!), without violating any (gag)
                      >> >> Canon at
                      >> >> > all. Just think, the first mission of the USS
                      >> >> > Enterprise With Kirk in the Center Seat... I can
                      >> >> see
                      >> >> > the Kirkites shaking with joy already...
                      >> >> > "People shouldn't fear their governments.
                      >> >> Governments should fear their people."
                      >> >> > V From V For Vendetta
                      >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ _________
                      >> >> _________ _________ _
                      >> >> > Need a vacation? Get great deals
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                      Sorry Jeff. I see you answered that. I missed it the 1st time. Lol! Franco ...
                      Message 10 of 28 , Sep 2, 2007
                        Sorry Jeff. I see you answered that. I missed it the 1st time. Lol! Franco

                        Jeff Chanowski wrote:
                        > Sulu was a department head in "The Cage". Which dep is the question? Franco
                        > Jeff wrote:
                        >> I think the title was head of Xenobiology. It was the episode with the
                        >> salt vampire that first establish it. He was also a Helmsman. The
                        >> bridge duty was rotated. Lots of positions are rotated amongst various
                        >> officers so that in an emergency there is a redundacy in case the
                        >> whole bridge crew is killed. In TNG Dr. Crusher was in the bridge
                        >> rotation.
                        >> JP
                        >> --- In star-trek-one@ yahoogroups. com , Jeff Chanowski <francocavs@ ...>
                        >> wrote:
                        >>>
                        >>> Very good question. I will have to find that ep and watch it again.
                        >> Franco
                        >>>
                        >>> Rob wrote:
                        >>> > True. Wasn't he an astrogator or a botanist?
                        >>> > --- Jeff Chanowski < francocavs@yahoo. com > wrote:
                        >>> >> Thats the rumor although some rumors have them
                        >>> >> showing Kirk and Spock at the academy first. If
                        >>> >> anyone would be outside their known job it would
                        >>> >> probably be Sulu as he was not the helmsman in the
                        >>> >> "Cage" . Franco
                        >>> >>
                        >>> >> Rob wrote:
                        >>> >> > Ok, here is what I think the JJ Abrams
                        >>> >> Star Trek movie
                        >>> >> > will be about. Quite simply, forget the Acadmey.
                        >>> >> > There's no way that will work. But what WILL work
                        >>> >> is
                        >>> >> > Kirk's First Mission aboard the Enterprise. He can
                        >>> >>
                        >>> >> > have the whole crew, even Chekov, who may be in
                        >>> >> > engineering at the time (remember Riley was from
                        >>> >> there
                        >>> >> > and getting 'sent down' was considered a demotion.
                        >>> >> As
                        >>> >> > an engineer during my military service, I consider
                        >>> >>
                        >>> >> > this an insult!), without violating any (gag)
                        >>> >> Canon at
                        >>> >> > all. Just think, the first mission of the USS
                        >>> >> > Enterprise With Kirk in the Center Seat... I can
                        >>> >> see
                        >>> >> > the Kirkites shaking with joy already...
                        >>> >> > "People shouldn't fear their governments.
                        >>> >> Governments should fear their people."
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                        True.....Last night was The Corbomite Maneuver and Sulu was at the helm.... KAJ In a message dated 9/2/2007 4:45:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
                        Message 11 of 28 , Sep 2, 2007
                          True.....Last night was "The Corbomite Maneuver" and Sulu was at the helm....

                          KAJ





                          In a message dated 9/2/2007 4:45:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
                          jpmotis@... writes:

                          I think the title was head of Xenobiology. It was the episode with the
                          salt vampire that first establish it. He was also a Helmsman. The
                          bridge duty was rotated. Lots of positions are rotated amongst various
                          officers so that in an emergency there is a redundacy in case the
                          whole bridge crew is killed. In TNG Dr. Crusher was in the bridge
                          rotation.

                          JP

                          --- In _star-trek-one@star-trek-onsta_
                          (mailto:star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com) , Jeff Chanowski <francocavs@fra>
                          wrote:
                          >
                          > Very good question. I will have to find that ep and watch it again.
                          Franco
                          >
                          > Rob wrote:
                          > > True. Wasn't he an astrogator or a botanist?
                          > > --- Jeff Chanowski < francocavs@yahoo. com > wrote:
                          > >> Thats the rumor although some rumors have them
                          > >> showing Kirk and Spock at the academy first. If
                          > >> anyone would be outside their known job it would
                          > >> probably be Sulu as he was not the helmsman in the
                          > >> "Cage" . Franco
                          > >>
                          > >> Rob wrote:
                          > >> > Ok, here is what I think the JJ Abrams
                          > >> Star Trek movie
                          > >> > will be about. Quite simply, forget the Acadmey.
                          > >> > There's no way that will work. But what WILL work
                          > >> is
                          > >> > Kirk's First Mission aboard the Enterprise. He can
                          > >>
                          > >> > have the whole crew, even Chekov, who may be in
                          > >> > engineering at the time (remember Riley was from
                          > >> there
                          > >> > and getting 'sent down' was considered a demotion.
                          > >> As
                          > >> > an engineer during my military service, I consider
                          > >>
                          > >> > this an insult!), without violating any (gag)
                          > >> Canon at
                          > >> > all. Just think, the first mission of the USS
                          > >> > Enterprise With Kirk in the Center Seat... I can
                          > >> see
                          > >> > the Kirkites shaking with joy already...
                          > >> > "People shouldn't fear their governments.
                          > >> Governments should fear their people."
                          > >> > V From V For Vendetta
                          > >> > ____________ _________ _________ _________
                          > >> _________ _________ _
                          > >> > Need a vacation? Get great deals
                          > >> > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
                          > >> > _http://travel._ (http://travel./) yahoo.com/
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                          > >>
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                          > >> Park yourself in front of a world of choices in
                          > >> alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green
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                          What s next ECHC ? Emergency Command Holographic Captain ? ... From: Jeff Chanowski To: terrileeuk@yahoo.co.uk
                          Message 12 of 28 , Sep 2, 2007
                            What's next " ECHC" ? Emergency Command Holographic Captain" ?

                            ----- Original Message ----
                            From: Jeff Chanowski <francocavs@...>
                            To: "terrileeuk@..." <terrileeuk@...>
                            Cc: "star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com" <star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com>
                            Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2007 9:44:01 AM
                            Subject: RE: [ST1-LCN] Star Trek The Movie?













                            ????????? Franco



                            terri lee wrote:

                            > Hi this is complicated but I will try to get it right!

                            > The way I hear it it goes like this the past series are a holographical replication of history and this movie follows on from Nemesis and the romulan war where Riker and Deanna have done wonders.

                            > So the Romulans are asking questions aboyt the federations history and this is the truth.

                            > If there is a bit of truth it is where Jnaeway goes back into Tuvoks past and meets Sulu / George Takei and says" thats not what he looked like" etc.

                            > As I said thts just the way I heard it but it sounds okay.

                            > A lot better than Shatner losing it at the conventiton and shouting " I am Captain Kirk, I am Captain Kirk" Silly sausage.

                            > Jeff Chanowski < francocavs@yahoo. com > wrote:

                            > Thats the rumor although some rumors have them showing Kirk and Spock at the academy first. If anyone would be outside their known job it would probably be Sulu as he was not the helmsman in the "Cage" . Franco

                            > Rob wrote:

                            >> Ok, here is what I think the JJ Abrams Star Trek movie

                            >> will be about. Quite simply, forget the Acadmey.

                            >> There's no way that will work. But what WILL work is

                            >> Kirk's First Mission aboard the Enterprise. He can

                            >> have the whole crew, even Chekov, who may be in

                            >> engineering at the time (remember Riley was from there

                            >> and getting 'sent down' was considered a demotion. As

                            >> an engineer during my military service, I consider

                            >> this an insult!), without violating any (gag) Canon at

                            >> all. Just think, the first mission of the USS

                            >> Enterprise With Kirk in the Center Seat... I can see

                            >> the Kirkites shaking with joy already...

                            >> "People shouldn't fear their governments. Governments should fear their people."

                            >> V From V For Vendetta

                            >> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

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                          • Robbie Chastain
                            Voyager already did that with the ECH. I suppose that if that were adopted generally throughout Starfleet, if someone wanted, they could make the ECH appear
                            Message 13 of 28 , Sep 2, 2007
                              Voyager already did that with the ECH. I suppose that if that were adopted generally throughout Starfleet, if someone wanted, they could make the ECH appear as Kirk.

                              Robbie



                              ----- Original Message -----
                              From: Robert Leamy
                              To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
                              Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 6:44 PM
                              Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Star Trek The Movie?


                              What's next " ECHC" ? Emergency Command Holographic Captain" ?

                              ----- Original Message ----
                              From: Jeff Chanowski <francocavs@...>
                              To: "terrileeuk@..." <terrileeuk@...>
                              Cc: "star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com" <star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com>
                              Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2007 9:44:01 AM
                              Subject: RE: [ST1-LCN] Star Trek The Movie?

                              ????????? Franco

                              terri lee wrote:

                              > Hi this is complicated but I will try to get it right!

                              > The way I hear it it goes like this the past series are a holographical replication of history and this movie follows on from Nemesis and the romulan war where Riker and Deanna have done wonders.

                              > So the Romulans are asking questions aboyt the federations history and this is the truth.

                              > If there is a bit of truth it is where Jnaeway goes back into Tuvoks past and meets Sulu / George Takei and says" thats not what he looked like" etc.

                              > As I said thts just the way I heard it but it sounds okay.

                              > A lot better than Shatner losing it at the conventiton and shouting " I am Captain Kirk, I am Captain Kirk" Silly sausage.

                              > Jeff Chanowski < francocavs@yahoo. com > wrote:

                              > Thats the rumor although some rumors have them showing Kirk and Spock at the academy first. If anyone would be outside their known job it would probably be Sulu as he was not the helmsman in the "Cage" . Franco

                              > Rob wrote:

                              >> Ok, here is what I think the JJ Abrams Star Trek movie

                              >> will be about. Quite simply, forget the Acadmey.

                              >> There's no way that will work. But what WILL work is

                              >> Kirk's First Mission aboard the Enterprise. He can

                              >> have the whole crew, even Chekov, who may be in

                              >> engineering at the time (remember Riley was from there

                              >> and getting 'sent down' was considered a demotion. As

                              >> an engineer during my military service, I consider

                              >> this an insult!), without violating any (gag) Canon at

                              >> all. Just think, the first mission of the USS

                              >> Enterprise With Kirk in the Center Seat... I can see

                              >> the Kirkites shaking with joy already...

                              >> "People shouldn't fear their governments. Governments should fear their people."

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                            • dizzheart@aol.com
                              In a message dated 9/2/2007 6:21:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, leandarvader@cox.net writes: Voyager already did that with the ECH. I suppose that if that were
                              Message 14 of 28 , Sep 2, 2007
                                In a message dated 9/2/2007 6:21:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
                                leandarvader@... writes:

                                Voyager already did that with the ECH. I suppose that if that were adopted
                                generally throughout Starfleet, if someone wanted, they could make the ECH
                                appear as Kirk. >>


                                I would expect that they have holographic virtual classes by this time, in
                                addition to the simulators we saw in the Kobayashi Maru test in TWOK.

                                I would imagine that they would use all the better captains we know in the
                                command classes. I'd like to see that myself. Not to take the place of a
                                live instructor, but as an adjunct, that would be nifty. Nice way to study
                                historical decisions.

                                Jack McDevitt has his characters doing that constantly in his books.

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                              • Rob
                                Why not? Why not a whole holographic crew to take over in case of a hull breach and everyone gets wasted? ...
                                Message 15 of 28 , Sep 2, 2007
                                  Why not? Why not a whole holographic crew to take over
                                  in case of a hull breach and everyone gets wasted?

                                  --- Robert Leamy <pendingmedic@...> wrote:

                                  > What's next " ECHC" ? Emergency Command Holographic
                                  > Captain" ?
                                  >
                                  > ----- Original Message ----
                                  > From: Jeff Chanowski <francocavs@...>
                                  > To: "terrileeuk@..."
                                  > <terrileeuk@...>
                                  > Cc: "star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com"
                                  > <star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com>
                                  > Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2007 9:44:01 AM
                                  > Subject: RE: [ST1-LCN] Star Trek The Movie?
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > ????????? Franco
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > terri lee wrote:
                                  >
                                  > > Hi this is complicated but I will try
                                  > to get it right!
                                  >
                                  > > The way I hear it it goes like this the past
                                  > series are a holographical replication of history
                                  > and this movie follows on from Nemesis and the
                                  > romulan war where Riker and Deanna have done
                                  > wonders.
                                  >
                                  > > So the Romulans are asking questions aboyt the
                                  > federations history and this is the truth.
                                  >
                                  > > If there is a bit of truth it is where Jnaeway
                                  > goes back into Tuvoks past and meets Sulu / George
                                  > Takei and says" thats not what he looked like" etc.
                                  >
                                  > > As I said thts just the way I heard it but it
                                  > sounds okay.
                                  >
                                  > > A lot better than Shatner losing it at the
                                  > conventiton and shouting " I am Captain Kirk, I am
                                  > Captain Kirk" Silly sausage.
                                  >
                                  > > Jeff Chanowski < francocavs@yahoo. com > wrote:
                                  >
                                  > > Thats the rumor although some rumors
                                  > have them showing Kirk and Spock at the academy
                                  > first. If anyone would be outside their known job it
                                  > would probably be Sulu as he was not the helmsman in
                                  > the "Cage" . Franco
                                  >
                                  > > Rob wrote:
                                  >
                                  > >> Ok, here is what I think the JJ Abrams Star Trek
                                  > movie
                                  >
                                  > >> will be about. Quite simply, forget the Acadmey.
                                  >
                                  > >> There's no way that will work. But what WILL work
                                  > is
                                  >
                                  > >> Kirk's First Mission aboard the Enterprise. He
                                  > can
                                  >
                                  > >> have the whole crew, even Chekov, who may be in
                                  >
                                  > >> engineering at the time (remember Riley was from
                                  > there
                                  >
                                  > >> and getting 'sent down' was considered a
                                  > demotion. As
                                  >
                                  > >> an engineer during my military service, I
                                  > consider
                                  >
                                  > >> this an insult!), without violating any (gag)
                                  > Canon at
                                  >
                                  > >> all. Just think, the first mission of the USS
                                  >
                                  > >> Enterprise With Kirk in the Center Seat... I can
                                  > see
                                  >
                                  > >> the Kirkites shaking with joy already...
                                  >
                                  > >> "People shouldn't fear their governments.
                                  > Governments should fear their people."
                                  >
                                  > >> V From V For Vendetta
                                  >
                                  > >> ____________ _________ _________ _________
                                  > _________ _________ _
                                  >
                                  > >> Need a vacation? Get great deals
                                  >
                                  > >> to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
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                                  > > http://autos. yahoo.com/ green_center/
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                                  > > ------------ --------- --------- ---
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                                  > > For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit
                                  > Yahoo! For Good this month.
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                                  Or how about holographic ships? ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                                  Message 16 of 28 , Sep 2, 2007
                                    Or how about holographic ships?

                                    On 9/3/07, Rob <rhob1960@...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    > Why not? Why not a whole holographic crew to take over
                                    > in case of a hull breach and everyone gets wasted?
                                    >
                                    > --- Robert Leamy <pendingmedic@...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    > > What's next " ECHC" ? Emergency Command Holographic
                                    > > Captain" ?
                                    > >
                                    > > ----- Original Message ----
                                    > > From: Jeff Chanowski <francocavs@...>
                                    > > To: "terrileeuk@..."
                                    > > <terrileeuk@...>
                                    > > Cc: "star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com"
                                    > > <star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com>
                                    > > Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2007 9:44:01 AM
                                    > > Subject: RE: [ST1-LCN] Star Trek The Movie?
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > ????????? Franco
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > >
                                    > > terri lee wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > > > Hi this is complicated but I will try
                                    > > to get it right!
                                    > >
                                    > > > The way I hear it it goes like this the past
                                    > > series are a holographical replication of history
                                    > > and this movie follows on from Nemesis and the
                                    > > romulan war where Riker and Deanna have done
                                    > > wonders.
                                    > >
                                    > > > So the Romulans are asking questions aboyt the
                                    > > federations history and this is the truth.
                                    > >
                                    > > > If there is a bit of truth it is where Jnaeway
                                    > > goes back into Tuvoks past and meets Sulu / George
                                    > > Takei and says" thats not what he looked like" etc.
                                    > >
                                    > > > As I said thts just the way I heard it but it
                                    > > sounds okay.
                                    > >
                                    > > > A lot better than Shatner losing it at the
                                    > > conventiton and shouting " I am Captain Kirk, I am
                                    > > Captain Kirk" Silly sausage.
                                    > >
                                    > > > Jeff Chanowski < francocavs@yahoo. com > wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > > > Thats the rumor although some rumors
                                    > > have them showing Kirk and Spock at the academy
                                    > > first. If anyone would be outside their known job it
                                    > > would probably be Sulu as he was not the helmsman in
                                    > > the "Cage" . Franco
                                    > >
                                    > > > Rob wrote:
                                    > >
                                    > > >> Ok, here is what I think the JJ Abrams Star Trek
                                    > > movie
                                    > >
                                    > > >> will be about. Quite simply, forget the Acadmey.
                                    > >
                                    > > >> There's no way that will work. But what WILL work
                                    > > is
                                    > >
                                    > > >> Kirk's First Mission aboard the Enterprise. He
                                    > > can
                                    > >
                                    > > >> have the whole crew, even Chekov, who may be in
                                    > >
                                    > > >> engineering at the time (remember Riley was from
                                    > > there
                                    > >
                                    > > >> and getting 'sent down' was considered a
                                    > > demotion. As
                                    > >
                                    > > >> an engineer during my military service, I
                                    > > consider
                                    > >
                                    > > >> this an insult!), without violating any (gag)
                                    > > Canon at
                                    > >
                                    > > >> all. Just think, the first mission of the USS
                                    > >
                                    > > >> Enterprise With Kirk in the Center Seat... I can
                                    > > see
                                    > >
                                    > > >> the Kirkites shaking with joy already...
                                    > >
                                    > > >> "People shouldn't fear their governments.
                                    > > Governments should fear their people."
                                    > >
                                    > > >> V From V For Vendetta
                                    > >
                                    > > >> ____________ _________ _________ _________
                                    > > _________ _________ _
                                    > >
                                    > > >> Need a vacation? Get great deals
                                    > >
                                    > > >> to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.
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                                    > > >>
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                                    > >
                                    > > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in
                                    > > alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green
                                    > > Center.
                                    > >
                                    > > > http://autos. yahoo.com/ green_center/
                                    > >
                                    > > > ------------ --------- --------- ---
                                    > >
                                    > > > For ideas on reducing your carbon footprint visit
                                    > > Yahoo! For Good this month.
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                                  • The Sweetest
                                    ... [ATA]You do realize that what you are asking is already canon. Although it is more a backup for Janeway, but the EMH is now also the ECHC
                                    Message 17 of 28 , Sep 3, 2007
                                      > What's next " ECHC" ? Emergency Command Holographic Captain" ?

                                      [ATA]You do realize that what you are asking is already canon.
                                      Although it is more a backup for Janeway, but the EMH is now also the
                                      ECHC
                                    • The Sweetest
                                      ... [ATA]One only have to think of all the commercials already done with dead people and ost of them were made a few yeasr ago when CGI was not as advanced as
                                      Message 18 of 28 , Sep 3, 2007
                                        > Voyager already did that with the ECH. I suppose that if that were adopted generally throughout Starfleet, if someone wanted, they could make the ECH appear as Kirk.
                                        >
                                        > Robbie

                                        [ATA]One only have to think of all the commercials already done with
                                        dead people and ost of them were made a few yeasr ago when CGI was not
                                        as advanced as today.
                                      • The Sweetest
                                        ... [ATA]Why wasted? As soon as the breach occirs they simply are deactivated and reactivated if the force fields are intact and any holoemitters are
                                        Message 19 of 28 , Sep 3, 2007
                                          > Why not? Why not a whole holographic crew to take over
                                          > in case of a hull breach and everyone gets wasted?

                                          [ATA]Why wasted? As soon as the breach occirs they simply are
                                          deactivated and reactivated if the force fields are intact and any
                                          holoemitters are working.And probably the mobile emitter would've been
                                          replicated by now.
                                        • The Sweetest
                                          ... [ATA]Possible. A giant version of the mobile emitter. Although it has been done before but just as mere holograms, images not holomatter. But I don t ssee
                                          Message 20 of 28 , Sep 3, 2007
                                            > Or how about holographic ships?

                                            [ATA]Possible. A giant version of the mobile emitter. Although it has
                                            been done before but just as mere holograms, images not holomatter.
                                            But I don't ssee why not.
                                          • RRCmdrBennett@aol.com
                                            Voyager already did that with the ECH. I suppose that if that were adopted generally throughout Starfleet, if someone wanted, they could make the ECH appear as
                                            Message 21 of 28 , Sep 4, 2007
                                              Voyager already did that with the ECH. I suppose that if that were adopted
                                              generally throughout Starfleet, if someone wanted, they could make the ECH
                                              appear as Kirk.

                                              Robbie

                                              >>

                                              reply

                                              Wonder who'd they choose of all the greats? Would you be able to pick and
                                              choose your ECH? I can understand the purpose of a backup holo Dr. but as
                                              long as one living human was alive wouldn't they take command first even if they
                                              aren't a command officer?


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                                              Why not? Why not a whole holographic crew to take over in case of a hull breach and everyone gets wasted? ... reply Why not use holographic crews to begin
                                              Message 22 of 28 , Sep 4, 2007
                                                Why not? Why not a whole holographic crew to take over
                                                in case of a hull breach and everyone gets wasted?

                                                >>

                                                reply

                                                Why not use holographic crews to begin with and not risk real Sentient
                                                beings? Have the holo recordings transmitted back via a scrambled encoded
                                                subspace feed and they could watch their every encounter?

                                                Another scenario is create a holodeck here where a human crew on earth would
                                                have their bodily movements translated into their holo counterparts. So the
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                                              • Rob
                                                Ha! We d have a little warp powered projector flying through space... hmmm. how about an external holoprojector for a starship? Especially a science vessel? If
                                                Message 23 of 28 , Sep 4, 2007
                                                  Ha! We'd have a little warp powered projector flying
                                                  through space... hmmm. how about an external
                                                  holoprojector for a starship? Especially a science
                                                  vessel? If the ship had to hide, it could make itself
                                                  look like an asteroid or a comet. Wouldn't fool
                                                  sensors, but it might give a ship a chance to escape.

                                                  --- Claudiu Tanaselia <tanaselia@...> wrote:

                                                  > Or how about holographic ships?
                                                  >
                                                  > On 9/3/07, Rob <rhob1960@...> wrote:
                                                  > >
                                                  > > Why not? Why not a whole holographic crew to take
                                                  > over
                                                  > > in case of a hull breach and everyone gets wasted?
                                                  > >
                                                  > > --- Robert Leamy <pendingmedic@...> wrote:
                                                  > >
                                                  > > > What's next " ECHC" ? Emergency Command
                                                  > Holographic
                                                  > > > Captain" ?
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > ----- Original Message ----
                                                  > > > From: Jeff Chanowski <francocavs@...>
                                                  > > > To: "terrileeuk@..."
                                                  > > > <terrileeuk@...>
                                                  > > > Cc: "star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com"
                                                  > > > <star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com>
                                                  > > > Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2007 9:44:01 AM
                                                  > > > Subject: RE: [ST1-LCN] Star Trek The Movie?
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > ????????? Franco
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > terri lee wrote:
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > > Hi this is complicated but I will
                                                  > try
                                                  > > > to get it right!
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > > The way I hear it it goes like this the past
                                                  > > > series are a holographical replication of
                                                  > history
                                                  > > > and this movie follows on from Nemesis and the
                                                  > > > romulan war where Riker and Deanna have done
                                                  > > > wonders.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > > So the Romulans are asking questions aboyt
                                                  > the
                                                  > > > federations history and this is the truth.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > > If there is a bit of truth it is where
                                                  > Jnaeway
                                                  > > > goes back into Tuvoks past and meets Sulu /
                                                  > George
                                                  > > > Takei and says" thats not what he looked like"
                                                  > etc.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > > As I said thts just the way I heard it but
                                                  > it
                                                  > > > sounds okay.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > > A lot better than Shatner losing it at the
                                                  > > > conventiton and shouting " I am Captain Kirk, I
                                                  > am
                                                  > > > Captain Kirk" Silly sausage.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > > Jeff Chanowski < francocavs@yahoo. com >
                                                  > wrote:
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > > Thats the rumor although some rumors
                                                  > > > have them showing Kirk and Spock at the academy
                                                  > > > first. If anyone would be outside their known
                                                  > job it
                                                  > > > would probably be Sulu as he was not the
                                                  > helmsman in
                                                  > > > the "Cage" . Franco
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > > Rob wrote:
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > >> Ok, here is what I think the JJ Abrams Star
                                                  > Trek
                                                  > > > movie
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > >> will be about. Quite simply, forget the
                                                  > Acadmey.
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > >> There's no way that will work. But what WILL
                                                  > work
                                                  > > > is
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > >> Kirk's First Mission aboard the Enterprise.
                                                  > He
                                                  > > > can
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > >> have the whole crew, even Chekov, who may be
                                                  > in
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > >> engineering at the time (remember Riley was
                                                  > from
                                                  > > > there
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > >> and getting 'sent down' was considered a
                                                  > > > demotion. As
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > >> an engineer during my military service, I
                                                  > > > consider
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > >> this an insult!), without violating any (gag)
                                                  > > > Canon at
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > >> all. Just think, the first mission of the USS
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > >> Enterprise With Kirk in the Center Seat... I
                                                  > can
                                                  > > > see
                                                  > > >
                                                  > > > >> the Kirkites shaking with joy already...
                                                  > > >
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                                                • Rob
                                                  I meant a holographic crew if the organic crew gets wasted. ... ...
                                                  Message 24 of 28 , Sep 4, 2007
                                                    I meant a holographic crew if the organic crew gets
                                                    wasted.

                                                    --- The Sweetest <avcor23@...> wrote:

                                                    > > Why not? Why not a whole holographic crew to take
                                                    > over
                                                    > > in case of a hull breach and everyone gets wasted?
                                                    >
                                                    > [ATA]Why wasted? As soon as the breach occirs they
                                                    > simply are
                                                    > deactivated and reactivated if the force fields are
                                                    > intact and any
                                                    > holoemitters are working.And probably the mobile
                                                    > emitter would've been
                                                    > replicated by now.
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                                                  • Rob
                                                    Which brings up a good point. Just what happened to all the Androids on Mudds Planet? Wouldn t they have been of some use, even as support personnel during the
                                                    Message 25 of 28 , Sep 4, 2007
                                                      Which brings up a good point. Just what happened to
                                                      all the Androids on Mudds Planet? Wouldn't they have
                                                      been of some use, even as support personnel during the
                                                      Dominion War?

                                                      --- RRCmdrBennett@... wrote:

                                                      > Why not? Why not a whole holographic crew to take
                                                      > over
                                                      > in case of a hull breach and everyone gets wasted?
                                                      >
                                                      > >>
                                                      >
                                                      > reply
                                                      >
                                                      > Why not use holographic crews to begin with and not
                                                      > risk real Sentient
                                                      > beings? Have the holo recordings transmitted back
                                                      > via a scrambled encoded
                                                      > subspace feed and they could watch their every
                                                      > encounter?
                                                      >
                                                      > Another scenario is create a holodeck here where a
                                                      > human crew on earth would
                                                      > have their bodily movements translated into their
                                                      > holo counterparts. So the
                                                      > holograms would be merely them doing everything
                                                      > remotely.
                                                      >
                                                      >
                                                      > Dan
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                                                    • Jeff
                                                      That was an episode of Red Dwarf. JP ... SRC= http://affiliates.allposters.com/iframe/CategoryPages/7144_1.asp?aid=102392&order=h&images=3 ...
                                                      Message 26 of 28 , Sep 4, 2007
                                                        That was an episode of Red Dwarf.

                                                        JP

                                                        --- In star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com, Rob <rhob1960@...> wrote:
                                                        >
                                                        > I meant a holographic crew if the organic crew gets
                                                        > wasted.
                                                        >
                                                        > --- The Sweetest <avcor23@...> wrote:
                                                        >
                                                        > > > Why not? Why not a whole holographic crew to take
                                                        > > over
                                                        > > > in case of a hull breach and everyone gets wasted?
                                                        > >
                                                        > > [ATA]Why wasted? As soon as the breach occirs they
                                                        > > simply are
                                                        > > deactivated and reactivated if the force fields are
                                                        > > intact and any
                                                        > > holoemitters are working.And probably the mobile
                                                        > > emitter would've been
                                                        > > replicated by now.
                                                        > >
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                                                      • The Sweetest
                                                        ... [ATA]Oh. I thought that there wasn t an organic crew at all.
                                                        Message 27 of 28 , Sep 5, 2007
                                                          > I meant a holographic crew if the organic crew gets
                                                          > wasted.

                                                          [ATA]Oh. I thought that there wasn't an organic crew at all.
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