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  • Trelane
    Yeah, I have no idea where you got that one. Thanks for taking the time to double check the facts, KAJ. I would ve done it myself but I m was tied up with
    Message 1 of 66 , Jul 1, 2007
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      Yeah, I have no idea where you got that one.

      Thanks for taking the time to double check the facts, KAJ. I would've done
      it myself but I'm was tied up with this solving world hunger AND that
      nuclear fusion thing, so I was pretty busy yesterday. :-)

      Trelane

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      From: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com [mailto:star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com]
      On Behalf Of n1684t@...
      Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 1:24 AM
      To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Re: Shatner furious over Star Trek Snub




      I just watched the uncut episode. Not even inferred.

      KAJ




      In a message dated 6/30/2007 4:20:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
      HYPERLINK "mailto:francocavs%40yahoo.com"francocavs@yahoo.-com writes:

      I dont remember exactly where it was infered in This
      Side of Paradise, but I remember it was somehow. I am
      going to have to start going through the TOS eps since
      they are referenced here alot. Either way having Kirk
      and Spock relatively the same age makes the new film
      work better and I am all for that. Franco
      --- _star-trek-one@-star-trek--onsta_ (mailto:HYPERLINK
      "mailto:star-trek-one%40yahoogroups.com"star-trek-one@-yahoogroups.-com)
      <HYPERLINK "mailto:_n1684t%40aol.com"_n1684t@aol.-com_ (mailto:HYPERLINK
      "mailto:n1684t%40aol.com"n1684t@...) >
      wrote:
      >
      > K.....Where? During what part of the episode? The
      trial?
      >
      > KAJ
      >
      >
      >
      > In a message dated 6/30/2007 1:56:29 P.M. Central
      Daylight Time,
      > HYPERLINK "mailto:_francocavs%40yahoo.fra"_francocavs@..._
      (mailto:HYPERLINK "mailto:francocavs%40yahoo.com"francocavs@yahoo.-com)
      writes:
      >
      >
      > Yes it was. Franco
      > --- _star-trek-one@ --- _ ---
      (mailto:_star--trek-one@-star-trek--onsta_
      (mailto:HYPERLINK
      "mailto:star-trek-one%40yahoogroups.com"star-trek-one@-yahoogroups.-com) )
      > <__ltrelanel@-gmail._lt_ (mailto:HYPERLINK
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      (mailto:HYPERLINK "mailto:ltrelanel%40gmail.com"ltrelanel@gmail.-com) )
      > wrote:
      > > No, it wasn't.
      > >
      > > Trelane
      > >
      > >
      > > _____
      > >
      > > From: _star-trek-one@ From: From:
      > (mailto:_star--trek-one@-star-trek--onsta_
      (mailto:HYPERLINK
      "mailto:star-trek-one%40yahoogroups.com"star-trek-one@-yahoogroups.-com) )
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      > (mailto:_star--trek-one@-star-trek--onsta_
      (mailto:HYPERLINK
      "mailto:star-trek-one%40yahoogroups.com"star-trek-one@-yahoogroups.-com) ) ]
      > > On Behalf Of Jeff Chanowski
      > > Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 3:44 PM
      > > To: _star-trek-one@ To: _ To:
      (mailto:_star--trek-one@-star-trek--onsta_
      (mailto:HYPERLINK
      "mailto:star-trek-one%40yahoogroups.com"star-trek-one@-yahoogroups.-com) )
      > > Subject: Re: Re: [ST1-LCN] Re: Shatner furious
      over
      > Star Trek Snub
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > I believe Spocks birth date was mentioned in
      either
      > > This Side of Paradise or Journey to Babel. Franco
      > > --- star-trek-one@
      > <mailto:star--mailto:star--<WBRmailt<-Wmai>
      > yahoogroups.
      > > <__n1684t@aol.-_n1_ (mailto:HYPERLINK
      "mailto:_n1684t%40aol.com"_n1684t@aol.-com) _ (mailto:HYPERLINK
      "mailto:_n1684t%40aol.com"_n1684t@aol.-com_
      (mailto:HYPERLINK "mailto:n1684t%40aol.com"n1684t@...) )
      <mailto:n1684t%-mailto:n1> >
      > > wrote:
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > In "The Deadly Years" Kirk says he is 34 years
      > old.
      > > I do not think it was
      > > > ever stated on screen how old Spock is.
      > > >
      > > > KAJ
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > In a message dated 6/29/2007 2:23:51 P.M.
      Central
      > > Standard Time,
      > > > francocavs@yahoo.
      <mailto:francocavs%-mailto:fran>
      > com writes:
      > > >
      > > > Perhaps KAJ has a better explanation for Kirk or
      > > Spocks' age. Franco
      > > >
      > > > --- In _star-trek-one@ --- In --- I
      > > (mailto:star- (mai
      > <mailto:star--mailto:star--<WBRmailt<-Wmai>
      > > yahoogroups.
      > > > , "Robert St. Ivain HRH"
      > > > <robitius@..-r> wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > During the Babel Conference, it was confided
      > that
      > > Spock and Sarek
      > > > had not spoken in 17 years because of Spock
      > joining
      > > Star Fleet
      > > > Academy. If that was at the age of 18, then
      Spock
      > > was 35 years old.
      > > > I cannot recall how Kirk's age was divined, but
      it
      > > worked out to
      > > > being a year younger than Spock.
      > > > >
      > > > > n1684t@... wrote:
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    • Robbie Chastain
      That s possible. Or if nothing else, keep poor Chuck away from Gul Madred. :) Robbie ... From: luigi10151 To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday,
      Message 66 of 66 , Jul 4, 2007
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        That's possible. Or if nothing else, keep poor Chuck away from Gul Madred. :)

        Robbie


        ----- Original Message -----
        From: luigi10151
        To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:42 PM
        Subject: [ST1-LCN] Re: Shatner furious over Star Trek Snub


        I think Chuck just likes saying that every once and a while to play
        the rebel, especially when authoritarian ideas like canon pop up :)
        -Luigi

        --- In star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com, "Robbie Chastain"
        <leandarvader@...> wrote:
        >
        > You've not been eating Cardassian fish eggs again haven't you?
        >
        > Robbie
        >
        >
        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: Chuck Hamilton
        > To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
        > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:10 AM
        > Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Re: Shatner furious over Star Trek Snub
        >
        >
        > Black is white, white is black, there are five candles not four.
        >
        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: "Robbie Chastain" <leandarvader@...>
        > To: <star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com>
        > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 2:19 AM
        > Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Re: Shatner furious over Star Trek Snub
        >
        > > From what I understand, now that the animated series is out on DVD,
        > > Paramount may be reconsidering on whether or not to include the
        animated
        > > series as canon. But I'm not 100% on whether or not they have
        for sure or
        > > not yet.
        > >
        > > Robbie
        > >
        > >
        > > ----- Original Message -----
        > > From: Robert St. Ivain HRH
        > > To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
        > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 12:34 PM
        > > Subject: RE: [ST1-LCN] Re: Shatner furious over Star Trek Snub
        > >
        > >
        > > Is the Animated Series on the level of official publications,
        books or
        > > fan sites?
        > >
        > > Trelane <ltrelanel@...> wrote:
        > >
        > > That's the point we've all been trying to make.
        > >
        > > Trelane
        > >
        > > From: star-trek-one@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:star-trek-one@
        yahoogroups.
        > > com]
        > > On Behalf Of Robert St. Ivain HRH
        > > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 1:08 PM
        > > To: star-trek-one@ yahoogroups. com
        > > Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Re: Shatner furious over Star Trek Snub
        > >
        > > Franco was referring to an official publication not a fan
        publication,
        > > but that is also not canon. Star Trek Encyclopedia and Star Trek
        > > Chronology are Official Publications, but are not canon.
        > >
        > > n1684t@... <mailto:n1684t% 40aol.com> wrote:
        > >
        > > You can believe the sky is falling for all i care, but when
        somebody
        > > write something on a web site it doesn't make it canon. Seeing
        and hearing
        > > it in an episode or movie makes it canon.
        > >
        > > KAJ
        > >
        > > In a message dated 7/2/2007 11:29:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
        > > francocavs@yahoo. com writes:
        > >
        > > I have an idea. You can go with your thought that the Okudas,
        the same
        > > people who worked on the production of Star Trek for many years,
        are wrong
        > > and I will go with the thought they are correct. Agreeing to
        disagree is
        > > perfectly okay with me. Franco
        > >
        > > --- In _star-trek-one@ star-trek- onsta_ (mailto:star- trek-one@
        > > yahoogroups.
        > > com)
        > > , n1684t@ wrote:
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > Not canon.....As far as journey to Babel, you cant assume Spock
        > > went into
        > > > the academy at 18. You couldn't even assume a human did that.
        > > Certainly not a
        > > > Vulcan.
        > > >
        > > > KAJ
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > In a message dated 7/1/2007 7:36:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
        > > > francocavs@ franc
        > > >
        > > > I just looked it up in the ST encyclopedia. It
        > > > confirmed my recollection of the facts. No offense,
        > > > but I will take that source since it was written by
        > > > the Okudas over what you or your pal say about it.
        > >
        > > > --- _star-trek-one@ --- _ --- _star-trek- ---
        > > ltrelanel@ _ltrelanel@ <WBR>..._ (m_ltre> wrote:
        > >
        > > > > Yeah, I have no idea where you got that one.
        > > > >
        > > > > Thanks for taking the time to double check the
        > > > facts, KAJ. I would've done
        > > > > it myself but I'm was tied up with this solving
        > > > world hunger AND that
        > > > > nuclear fusion thing, so I was pretty busy
        > > > yesterday. :-)
        > > > >
        > > > > Trelane
        > > > >
        > > > > "Seeing a murder on television.. "Seeing a murder o
        > > > one's antagonisms. And
        > > > > if you haven't any antagonisms, the commercials will
        > > > give you some." --
        > > > > Alfred Hitchcock
        > > > >
        > > > > _____
        > > > >
        > > > > From: _star-trek-one@ From: From:
        > > > (mailto:_star- trek-one@ star-trek- onsta_
        > > (mailto:star- trek-one@ yahoogroups. com) )
        > > > [mailto:_star- [mailto: [mailto:_ [mailt
        > > > (mailto:_star- trek-one@ star-trek- onsta_
        > > (mailto:star- trek-one@ yahoogroups. com) ) ]
        > > > > On Behalf Of _n1684t@_ (mailto:n1684t@ On B
        > > > > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 1:24 AM
        > > > > To: _star-trek-one@ To: _ To: _star-trek- To:
        > > _one@yahoogroups. one_ (mailto:one@ yahoogroups. com) )
        > > > > Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] Re: Shatner furious over Star
        > > > Trek Snub
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > I just watched the uncut episode. Not even inferred.
        > > > >
        > > > > KAJ
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > In a message dated 6/30/2007 4:20:11 P.M. Central
        > > > Daylight Time,
        > > > > HYPERLINK
        > > > "mailto:francocavs% "mailto: "mailt "mai
        > > > writes:
        > > > >
        > > > > I dont remember exactly where it was infered in This
        > > > > Side of Paradise, but I remember it was somehow. I
        > > > am
        > > > > going to have to start going through the TOS eps
        > > > since
        > > > > they are referenced here alot. Either way having
        > > > Kirk
        > > > > and Spock relatively the same age makes the new film
        > > > > work better and I am all for that. Franco
        > > > > --- _star-trek-one@ --- --
        > > > (mailto:HYPERLINK
        > > > >
        > > > "mailto:star- "mail "mailto "mail "mai "mailto
        > > "mail
        > > >
        > > > > <HYPERLINK
        > > > "mailto:_n1684t% "mai "mai "mai
        > > > (mailto:HYPERLINK
        > > > > "mailto:n1684t% "mail_n1684t@ "mailto:n1684t% "mail_n "mailt>
        > > > > wrote:
        > > > > >
        > > > > > K.....Where? During what part of the episode? The
        > > > > trial?
        > > > > >
        > > > > > KAJ
        > > > > >
        > > > > >
        > > > > >
        > > > > > In a message dated 6/30/2007 1:56:29 P.M. Central
        > > > > Daylight Time,
        > > > > > HYPERLINK
        > > > "mailto:_francocavs "mai "mai "mailto:_f
        > > > > (mailto:HYPERLINK
        > > > "mailto:francocavs% "mailto: "mailt "mail
        > > > > writes:
        > > > > >
        > > > > >
        > > > > > Yes it was. Franco
        > > > > > --- _star-trek-one@ --- _ ---
        > > > > (mailto:_star- (mail (mailt (ma
        > > > > (mailto:HYPERLINK
        > > > >
        > > > "mailto:star- "mail "mailto "mail "mai "mailto
        > > "mail
        > > > )
        > > > > > <__ltrelanel@ __ltrelanel@ <WBR>-gmail. -gmai
        > > > >
        > > > "mailto:_ltrelanel% "mai "mailt "mailt
        > > > _
        > > > > (mailto:HYPERLINK
        > > > "mailto:_ltrelanel% "mai "mailt "mailt
        > > > > (mailto:HYPERLINK
        > > > "mailto:ltrelanel% "mailto: "mail "mailto:ltr
        > > > > > wrote:
        > > > > > > No, it wasn't.
        > > > > > >
        > > > > > > Trelane
        > > > > > >
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