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  • Chuck Hamilton
    As far as I m concerned, for me personally the relaunch series (DS9, VOY, and TNG post-Nemesis) are canon . Meaning that to me that s what really happened
    Message 1 of 19 , Sep 30, 2006
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      As far as I'm concerned, for me personally the relaunch series (DS9, VOY,
      and TNG post-Nemesis) are "canon". Meaning that to me that's what "really"
      happened after the shooting stopped. There's minor inconsistencies, but
      nothing major.

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      Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 2:17 PM
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      > And quite well, I might add.
      >
      > Robbie
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: Chuck Hamilton
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      > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 4:47 PM
      > Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] DS9 series finale
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      >
      > The relaunch took care of those problems.
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "janlafata" <janlafata@...>
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      > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 4:09 PM
      > Subject: [ST1-LCN] DS9 series finale
      >
      > > Avery Brooks, in a recent interview in the new Star Trek magazine said
      > > he's never been happy with the series finale ending, where Sisko is
      > > made into a prophet. I agree with him. What do you think?
      > >
      > > Here's what he said:
      > >
      > > The show ran for seven years. It was a long, long road. I did have
      > > some reservations initially when I read the script [for the series
      > > finale, "What You Leave Behind], because I thought they were going to
      > > really kill Sisko. I took that very literally, and asked the
      > > producers, "Why are you killing Sisko ?"
      > >
      > > The producers told me, "Look we thought you'd be thrilled because we
      > > had made him a God !" The difference, of course, is you have Sisko
      > > with another child on the way. You still have Sisko with a young man
      > > [Jake Sisko] trying to find his way, and you make him a God ! That
      > > wasn't fair.
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    • Robbie Chastain
      Indeed. Well even the A Time To... series fits quite well, which is just before Nemesis. Lots of books, especially those written in the mid-90 s and
      Message 2 of 19 , Oct 1, 2006
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        Indeed. Well even the "A Time To..." series fits quite well, which is just before Nemesis. Lots of books, especially those written in the mid-90's and beyond, can fit very easily into Trek continuity if you want them to be there for you. Now that Gene's restrictions on the novels have been lifted, they can go to lengths to make sure that the books are consistent and not all contradictory with each other and the shows and movies. And I think they do a good job of it, I must say.

        Robbie


        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Chuck Hamilton
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        Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 1:59 AM
        Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] DS9 series finale


        As far as I'm concerned, for me personally the relaunch series (DS9, VOY,
        and TNG post-Nemesis) are "canon". Meaning that to me that's what "really"
        happened after the shooting stopped. There's minor inconsistencies, but
        nothing major.

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Robbie Chastain" <leandarvader@...>
        To: <star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 2:17 PM
        Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] DS9 series finale

        > And quite well, I might add.
        >
        > Robbie
        >
        >
        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: Chuck Hamilton
        > To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
        > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 4:47 PM
        > Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] DS9 series finale
        >
        >
        > The relaunch took care of those problems.
        >
        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: "janlafata" <janlafata@...>
        > To: <star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com>
        > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 4:09 PM
        > Subject: [ST1-LCN] DS9 series finale
        >
        > > Avery Brooks, in a recent interview in the new Star Trek magazine said
        > > he's never been happy with the series finale ending, where Sisko is
        > > made into a prophet. I agree with him. What do you think?
        > >
        > > Here's what he said:
        > >
        > > The show ran for seven years. It was a long, long road. I did have
        > > some reservations initially when I read the script [for the series
        > > finale, "What You Leave Behind], because I thought they were going to
        > > really kill Sisko. I took that very literally, and asked the
        > > producers, "Why are you killing Sisko ?"
        > >
        > > The producers told me, "Look we thought you'd be thrilled because we
        > > had made him a God !" The difference, of course, is you have Sisko
        > > with another child on the way. You still have Sisko with a young man
        > > [Jake Sisko] trying to find his way, and you make him a God ! That
        > > wasn't fair.
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      • Richard Klein
        After all this time, I had always thought the prophets sent Sisko back in time to do other things, I never put it together that he became a prophet. ... From:
        Message 3 of 19 , Oct 1, 2006
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          After all this time, I had always thought the prophets sent Sisko back
          in time to do other things, I never put it together that he became a
          prophet.

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          [mailto:star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of janlafata
          Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 4:10 PM
          To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [ST1-LCN] DS9 series finale

          Avery Brooks, in a recent interview in the new Star Trek magazine said
          he's never been happy with the series finale ending, where Sisko is
          made into a prophet. I agree with him. What do you think?

          Here's what he said:

          The show ran for seven years. It was a long, long road. I did have
          some reservations initially when I read the script [for the series
          finale, "What You Leave Behind], because I thought they were going to
          really kill Sisko. I took that very literally, and asked the
          producers, "Why are you killing Sisko ?"

          The producers told me, "Look we thought you'd be thrilled because we
          had made him a God !" The difference, of course, is you have Sisko
          with another child on the way. You still have Sisko with a young man
          [Jake Sisko] trying to find his way, and you make him a God ! That
          wasn't fair.









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        • Richard Klein
          What Relaunch? What is that? ... From: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com [mailto:star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hamilton Sent: Friday,
          Message 4 of 19 , Oct 1, 2006
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            What Relaunch? What is that?

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            [mailto:star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hamilton
            Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 5:47 PM
            To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] DS9 series finale

            The relaunch took care of those problems.

            ----- Original Message -----
            From: "janlafata" <janlafata@...>
            To: <star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 4:09 PM
            Subject: [ST1-LCN] DS9 series finale


            > Avery Brooks, in a recent interview in the new Star Trek magazine said
            > he's never been happy with the series finale ending, where Sisko is
            > made into a prophet. I agree with him. What do you think?
            >
            > Here's what he said:
            >
            > The show ran for seven years. It was a long, long road. I did have
            > some reservations initially when I read the script [for the series
            > finale, "What You Leave Behind], because I thought they were going to
            > really kill Sisko. I took that very literally, and asked the
            > producers, "Why are you killing Sisko ?"
            >
            > The producers told me, "Look we thought you'd be thrilled because we
            > had made him a God !" The difference, of course, is you have Sisko
            > with another child on the way. You still have Sisko with a young man
            > [Jake Sisko] trying to find his way, and you make him a God ! That
            > wasn't fair.
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          • Richard Klein
            I looked up Deep space nine but I did not see anything about the last episode or trivia? ... From: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
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              I looked up Deep space nine but I did not see anything about the last
              episode or trivia?

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              To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] DS9 series finale



              Ah if you look this up on the _www.wikipedia.com_
              (http://www.wikipedia.com)
              , it notes none of her images could be used because of a stipulation in
              Terry
              Ferrals contract, look up the last episode of DS9 and look for trivia.

              Col Sladky

              In a message dated 9/29/2006 10:32:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
              captainkirk1776@... writes:

              It also bugged the crap outta me that not ONE of Worfs flashbacks
              involved
              his loving wife.What was her name....? OH YEA JADZIA DAX WHO HAD BEEN
              ON THE
              SHOW FOR SIX SEASONS!!!!!It also bugged the crap outta me that not ONE
              of
              Worfs flashbacks involved his loving wife.What was her name....? OH YEA
              JADZIA
              DAX WHO HAD BEEN ON THE SHOW FOR SIX SEASONS!!!!!<WBR>!! Does anybody
              know why
              she was not included

              "Don't remind me" Captain James T. Kirk Star Trek VI :TUC
              Captain Kirk




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              Quartermaster, SMI
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            • AJ
              If you look at the general DS9 article, scroll to the bottom. One of the offered links is a list of all DS9 episodes. From that list, choose the final
              Message 6 of 19 , Oct 1, 2006
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                If you look at the general DS9 article, scroll to the
                bottom. One of the offered links is a list of all DS9
                episodes. From that list, choose the final episode.
                The episode page has trivia near the end.
                at least, that's how i found it. :)
                ~calie

                --- Richard Klein <rich@...> wrote:

                > I looked up Deep space nine but I did not see
                > anything about the last
                > episode or trivia?
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                > To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
                > Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] DS9 series finale
                >
                >
                >
                > Ah if you look this up on the _www.wikipedia.com_
                > (http://www.wikipedia.com)
                > , it notes none of her images could be used because
                > of a stipulation in
                > Terry
                > Ferrals contract, look up the last episode of DS9
                > and look for trivia.
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                > Col Sladky
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                > In a message dated 9/29/2006 10:32:48 P.M. Eastern
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                > Worfs flashbacks
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                > his loving wife.What was her name....? OH YEA
                > JADZIA DAX WHO HAD BEEN
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                > her name....? OH YEA
                > JADZIA
                > DAX WHO HAD BEEN ON THE SHOW FOR SIX
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                > she was not included
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                Try here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_You_Leave_Behind Robbie ... From: Richard Klein To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006
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                  Try here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_You_Leave_Behind

                  Robbie


                  ----- Original Message -----
                  From: Richard Klein
                  To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 4:16 PM
                  Subject: RE: [ST1-LCN] DS9 series finale


                  I looked up Deep space nine but I did not see anything about the last
                  episode or trivia?

                  -----Original Message-----
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                  [mailto:star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
                  ColDavidSladky@...
                  Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 11:27 AM
                  To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] DS9 series finale

                  Ah if you look this up on the _www.wikipedia.com_
                  (http://www.wikipedia.com)
                  , it notes none of her images could be used because of a stipulation in
                  Terry
                  Ferrals contract, look up the last episode of DS9 and look for trivia.

                  Col Sladky

                  In a message dated 9/29/2006 10:32:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
                  captainkirk1776@... writes:

                  It also bugged the crap outta me that not ONE of Worfs flashbacks
                  involved
                  his loving wife.What was her name....? OH YEA JADZIA DAX WHO HAD BEEN
                  ON THE
                  SHOW FOR SIX SEASONS!!!!!It also bugged the crap outta me that not ONE
                  of
                  Worfs flashbacks involved his loving wife.What was her name....? OH YEA
                  JADZIA
                  DAX WHO HAD BEEN ON THE SHOW FOR SIX SEASONS!!!!!<WBR>!! Does anybody
                  know why
                  she was not included

                  "Don't remind me" Captain James T. Kirk Star Trek VI :TUC
                  Captain Kirk

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                • ColDavidSladky@aol.com
                  Trivia * _Jadzia Dax_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jadzia_Dax) was notably absent from the rememberances of the various crew members on board the station.
                  Message 8 of 19 , Oct 1, 2006
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                    Trivia
                    * _Jadzia Dax_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jadzia_Dax) was notably
                    absent from the rememberances of the various crew members on board the
                    station. This was because _Terry Farrell_
                    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Farrell_(actress)) , upset over an image of her being used earlier in the 7th
                    season without permission, refused to allow scenes with her to be shown in the
                    final episode.
                    The link-
                    _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_You_Leave_Behind_%28DS9_episode%29_
                    (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_You_Leave_Behind_(DS9_episode))

                    Sorry but who ever made the DS9 page on the wiki didn't add a link to the
                    episodes on the page, so it comes up as a separate search.

                    Col Sladky

                    in a message dated 10/1/2006 5:21:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
                    rich@... writes:

                    I looked up Deep space nine but I did not see anything about the last
                    episode or trivia?




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                  • Chuck Hamilton
                    The only major inconsistencies I ve noticed is that in Genesis Wave 3 Ogawa has a daughter named Suzi and hubby Adam after being missing is found, this two
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                      The only major inconsistencies I've noticed is that in Genesis Wave 3 Ogawa
                      has a daughter named Suzi and hubby Adam after being missing is found, this
                      two years after the Dominion War, while in the Titan series she has a son
                      named Noah and Adam was killed in the war. The other is that in DS9's The
                      Left Hand of Destiny, Boreth is portrayed as an ice planet while in VOY's
                      Spirit Walk it's portrayed as a jungle planet. I like the A Time to...
                      series, especially the way the last three books in particular bring Worf and
                      the Enterprise slowly closer together.

                      ----- Original Message -----
                      From: "Robbie Chastain" <leandarvader@...>
                      To: <star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com>
                      Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 9:39 AM
                      Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] DS9 series finale


                      > Indeed. Well even the "A Time To..." series fits quite well, which is
                      just before Nemesis. Lots of books, especially those written in the
                      mid-90's and beyond, can fit very easily into Trek continuity if you want
                      them to be there for you. Now that Gene's restrictions on the novels have
                      been lifted, they can go to lengths to make sure that the books are
                      consistent and not all contradictory with each other and the shows and
                      movies. And I think they do a good job of it, I must say.
                      >
                      > Robbie
                      >
                      >
                      > ----- Original Message -----
                      > From: Chuck Hamilton
                      > To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
                      > Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 1:59 AM
                      > Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] DS9 series finale
                      >
                      >
                      > As far as I'm concerned, for me personally the relaunch series (DS9,
                      VOY,
                      > and TNG post-Nemesis) are "canon". Meaning that to me that's what
                      "really"
                      > happened after the shooting stopped. There's minor inconsistencies, but
                      > nothing major.
                      >
                      > ----- Original Message -----
                      > From: "Robbie Chastain" <leandarvader@...>
                      > To: <star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com>
                      > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 2:17 PM
                      > Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] DS9 series finale
                      >
                      > > And quite well, I might add.
                      > >
                      > > Robbie
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > ----- Original Message -----
                      > > From: Chuck Hamilton
                      > > To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
                      > > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 4:47 PM
                      > > Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] DS9 series finale
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > The relaunch took care of those problems.
                      > >
                      > > ----- Original Message -----
                      > > From: "janlafata" <janlafata@...>
                      > > To: <star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com>
                      > > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 4:09 PM
                      > > Subject: [ST1-LCN] DS9 series finale
                      > >
                      > > > Avery Brooks, in a recent interview in the new Star Trek magazine
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                      > > > he's never been happy with the series finale ending, where Sisko is
                      > > > made into a prophet. I agree with him. What do you think?
                      > > >
                      > > > Here's what he said:
                      > > >
                      > > > The show ran for seven years. It was a long, long road. I did have
                      > > > some reservations initially when I read the script [for the series
                      > > > finale, "What You Leave Behind], because I thought they were going
                      to
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                      > > > had made him a God !" The difference, of course, is you have Sisko
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                      Books. ... From: Richard Klein To: Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 5:12 PM Subject: RE: [ST1-LCN] DS9
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                        Books.

                        ----- Original Message -----
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                        Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 5:12 PM
                        Subject: RE: [ST1-LCN] DS9 series finale


                        > What Relaunch? What is that?
                        >
                        > -----Original Message-----
                        > From: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
                        > [mailto:star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Hamilton
                        > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 5:47 PM
                        > To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
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                        >
                        > The relaunch took care of those problems.
                        >
                        > ----- Original Message -----
                        > From: "janlafata" <janlafata@...>
                        > To: <star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com>
                        > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 4:09 PM
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                        >
                        > > Avery Brooks, in a recent interview in the new Star Trek magazine said
                        > > he's never been happy with the series finale ending, where Sisko is
                        > > made into a prophet. I agree with him. What do you think?
                        > >
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                        Look for Memory Alpha. ... From: Richard Klein To: Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 5:16 PM Subject:
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                          Look for Memory Alpha.

                          ----- Original Message -----
                          From: "Richard Klein" <rich@...>
                          To: <star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com>
                          Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 5:16 PM
                          Subject: RE: [ST1-LCN] DS9 series finale


                          > I looked up Deep space nine but I did not see anything about the last
                          > episode or trivia?
                          >
                          > -----Original Message-----
                          > From: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
                          > [mailto:star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
                          > ColDavidSladky@...
                          > Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 11:27 AM
                          > To: star-trek-one@yahoogroups.com
                          > Subject: Re: [ST1-LCN] DS9 series finale
                          >
                          >
                          >
                          > Ah if you look this up on the _www.wikipedia.com_
                          > (http://www.wikipedia.com)
                          > , it notes none of her images could be used because of a stipulation in
                          > Terry
                          > Ferrals contract, look up the last episode of DS9 and look for trivia.
                          >
                          > Col Sladky
                          >
                          > In a message dated 9/29/2006 10:32:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
                          > captainkirk1776@... writes:
                          >
                          > It also bugged the crap outta me that not ONE of Worfs flashbacks
                          > involved
                          > his loving wife.What was her name....? OH YEA JADZIA DAX WHO HAD BEEN
                          > ON THE
                          > SHOW FOR SIX SEASONS!!!!!It also bugged the crap outta me that not ONE
                          > of
                          > Worfs flashbacks involved his loving wife.What was her name....? OH YEA
                          > JADZIA
                          > DAX WHO HAD BEEN ON THE SHOW FOR SIX SEASONS!!!!!<WBR>!! Does anybody
                          > know why
                          > she was not included
                          >
                          > "Don't remind me" Captain James T. Kirk Star Trek VI :TUC
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