602Re: Saints in SA
- Mar 15, 2007-Unfortunately I have not succeed in getting the shipping and
passengerlists information. I doubt if it still exist. I approached
Dr A. Schulenberg about the names of companies which offered the
Saints occupations during 1871 - 1873 but he too could not help. My
g.grandfather and some of his family members (Thomas males) worked
for the railways.
I wonder why the school history books never mentioned that 2000 St
Helenians immigrated to SA.
-- In email@example.com, "cryswil27"
> how did they arrive in cape town - via the RMS ST Helena? is there
> passenger lists that we can check? and is there no "immigration
> NB: I've also noted that "ADA" was a common name on St Helena
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "ja3nf" <nilfer@>
> > --- In email@example.com, "ja3nf" <nilfer@>
> > wrote:
> > Due to the economic depression on St Helena and the demand for
> > labour in SA (from thr article Settlers and Slaves) led to the
> > emigration of more than 2000 St Helenians to the Cape and Natal.
> > Dr A. Schulenburg wrote "a large emigration took place in
> > 1872 & 1873 consequent on the change and reductions whichfollowed
> > on the opening of the Suez Canal. Emigrant vessels weredispatched
> > to the Island from the Cape & Natal, inviting emigrants andAthlone,
> > good employment in those Colonies to anyone who were disposed to
> > avail themselves of it."
> > The St Helenians settled in the Bo-Kaap, District Six,
> > Constantia, Rondebosch - Claremont area (Harfield Road), Paarl,established
> > Wellington, PE and East London. (maybe some of you can add more
> > places)
> > They brought with them their social security net and
> > several benifit societies for example The Independent Friendlyand
> > Society (the building still stands in Wellington dated 1885),
> > the Odd Fellows. Unfortunately member lists of these societiesIsaacs,
> > cannot be found. Church records will be the best place to start.
> > Surnames: Adams, Andersen, Andrews, Bailey, Benjamin, Chapman,
> > Combrinck, Daniels, Davids, Davis, Fisher, Harris, Hector,
> > Knipe, Martin, Meyer, Peters, Petersen, Reed, Richards,Robinson,
> > Smith, Thomas, Ward, Watson, Williams tec..etc..were common.proud
> > Prior to the 1948 Race Classification laws the Saints were
> > to be British subjects and tried to keep their 'Britishidentity'.
> > The next generation dissolved into the South African society andSt
> > did the history of 2000 Saints.What a pity!!!
> > Unfortunately many old cemetaries are abused and neglected so
> > hardly no info can be fetched there.
> > I am sure many of you will be able to add more info to our
> > subject.
> > Keep well
> > June Nielsen-Ferreira
> > Denmark
> > >
> > > --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Beryl Segers
> > > <bmsegers@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just wanted to add that my father was born in St Helena in
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Beryl
> > > >
> > > > Labieqah Camroodien <labieqah@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ja3nf <nilfer@> wrote: June,
> > > > Do you perhaps have any information on why/how your St
> > Helenian
> > > family ended up in Claremont. My great grandparents and their
> > > family also lived at various addresses in the Claremont and
> > Newlands
> > > areas. I have also gathered that there must have been a few
> > > Helenians living in the area and it would be interesting toknow
> > howwhere
> > > they ended up here.
> > > > I have been to the St Saviour's Church in Claremont as I
> > > that this was where my great grandparents were married and
> > > their children were christened. Same goes for my gg mother'sHelena
> > sister
> > > and her family. It seems that most of the witnesses listed at
> > these
> > > events were either related and/or were originally from St
> > > too. Most of the witnesses also seemed to have attended thisYon.
> > church
> > > and so sometimes I could see their place of birth in the
> > > Some of the surnames that crop up in these records that may be
> > > interest to this forum are Maggott, Bennett, Connolly and
> > > There may be more - these are just the names that I happenedto
> > pickand
> > > up on by looking at my family's records.
> > > > Regards
> > > > Labieqah
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for responding. My grandfather, John Thomas lived in
> > > Harfield
> > > > Road, Claremont. Quite many St Helenians lived there.
> > > Unfortunately
> > > > the whereabouts of the St Helenians,in the Cape are not well
> > > > recorded. Keep on asking and recording. I managed to get in
> > > contact
> > > > (via this forum) in contact with my great-grandfather's
> > > > offspring. It is abit far out but I received family photos
> > > couldand
> > > > see resemblances and name similarities. Happy hunting.
> > > > June
> > > > >
> > > >Hi Labieqah & Beryl
> > > We are all looking for our ancestors and ask questions. Many
> > > we do not get a response we are looking for, and we are at a
> > > ends. Maybe we should approach our search from another angle
> > > start another subject 'Saints in SA'. If we join forces wewill
> > > stumble over info that may be of interest to other members and
> > > ourselves. Tell me if you are interested.
> > > June
> > >
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