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Re: [spinoza] Neutrino Storm

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  • Donovan Rundle
    Oh, the paper seems to have gone someplace I can t locate and I have grown rusty on site decorum and protocol. No matter, it was a bit dated in any event.
    Message 1 of 3 , Aug 1 4:13 PM
      Oh, the paper seems to have gone someplace I can't locate and I have grown rusty on site decorum and protocol. No matter, it was a bit dated in any event.

      On Aug 1, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Donovan Rundle <donovanrundle@...> wrote:

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      > This paper, only for those who already understand, shows the nature of "image body" and "language" when the causative flow is objective, that is, it proceeds from God rather than from fortuitous monkey mind. I may have mentioned before, read it like a newspaper this time, then out loud, then see how far the formatory appartus or so-called "mind" gets with it. When time stands still stay in your seat and watch the world burn down. Yell, "fire!" if you wish, it's all the same in the true monotheism. Bring marshmallows, it's a party. Don't worry, you are alone.
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      > On Aug 1, 2013, at 3:41 AM, "strugglingamphibian" <strugglingamphibian@...> wrote:
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      >> When the human mind regards external bodies through the ideas of the modifications of its own body, we say it imagines. – Spinoza's Ethics Part 2 Proposition 26.
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      >> If there is one common thread running through all my futile attempts at discussing eternity with a mind whose "eye" has yet to catch a glimpse, it is that my interlocutor is rarely ever able to distinguish between understanding and imagination. With this particular post, I will be sharing my attempts to clarify in my own mind that very same distinction.
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      >> By the term MODE, I mean the way/manner a thing occurs/exists. For instance, for an ice cub in cup, "frozen" is the mode of the water in that cup. There is no actually existing thing as an ice cube that has an underlying essence called water. All that is in that glass is water simply existing in a certain manner.
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      >> I played with plastacine as a child in nursery school. I was thrilled by how putty-like it was and the different forms I could compose out of what seemed to be nothing but a lump of clay. What lump of clay? I see a giraffe! Hey! That's not a giraffe! That's an airplane! No wait! It is a flying dildo!
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      >> For our purpose here, we can imagine the human body as a very complex quantity of plastacine. It can undergo seemingly infinite (but necessarily finite) modifications and still retain its nature (i.e modal distinction from "other" bodies). Just think of how many glasses of water you have consumed, how many showers you have taken, how many "air molecules" have affected your body and how many nicks and scratches you have had.
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      >> Furthermore, we must understand that all these modifications of the body are "events" in the world of extension. Bodies DO NOT exist in the world of thought. But the order and connection of ideas is the same as the order and connection of things. As Spinoza succinctly puts it: "whatsoever follows from the infinite nature of God in the world of extension, follows without exception in the same order and connection from the idea of God in the world of thought."
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      >> Now, let us say that due to my incessant prayers, the order of nature has finally conceded and is presently catering to my hopes/fears. Due to this miracle, there are no bodies affecting my complex plastacine body any longer. I am left with my present plastacine form/bodily modification. In other words, just as heat is needed for water to transition from ice to steam, there are (due to my answered prayers) no bodies constraining/determining my body to transition from its present disposition/mode to another. Now, how will this miraculous event play out in the world of thought?
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      >> As miracles are impossible, one can only guess. My guess is that my mind (the same thing that exists in the world of extension existing in the world of thought) would be constrained to regard a thing as present indefinitely. There are no events to cause/constrain my mind to exclude the presence of these "external objects". Rapture has come! "The world" has come to an end! "Time" is standing still!
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      >> All that is really happening is that my plastacine body is no longer able to do what it usually does with such ease that we seldom notice. Whereas a child might pummel a lump of plastacine for a while before boredom sets in, our bodies, until their eventual demise, are unendingly pummeled by a external bodies. Just like neutrinos, the pummeling is usually subtle.
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      >> We see this occurring when "listening to music" or "watching a movie". All of a sudden the movie or song appears to be stuck in a loop and we usually go over to the playback device and try to "rectify the problem" What actually occurred is that our plasticine body is simply "stuck" in its present complex sequence of motion/rest and our mind is constrained to a specific mode of thinking until the body transitions into another mode.
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      >> In conclusion, imagination involves the modifications of the human body. These images or ideas in the mind of the seemingly infinite ways that particular body occurs/exists are usually confused for the true nature of actually existing external bodies. Imagination is simply what (we have no say in this matter) continues operating so long as the parts (i.e various bodies/motions) constituting/amounting to a complex body persists in existing. Understanding is what "endures" when the imagination stops.
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      >> I hope this was as useful to me as it was for you.
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      >> Sincerely,
      >> C
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