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  • Donavon Dorsey
    The initial funding comes from private investors and eventually from corporate sponsors. The season will be from April through October. That does rule out an
    Message 1 of 36 , Feb 1, 2002
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      The initial funding comes from private investors and eventually from corporate sponsors.  The season will be from April through October.  That does rule out an indoor winter season.  Whether or not it runs AMA or not will partially depend on whether or not the AMA survives its current disagreement with Clear Channel Sports over who will get to run Supercross.  For details on that I refer you to Cycle News last week.
      George (Star Wars) Lucas says something like, If you can imagine it, you can do it.  Well I imagine I can do this.  Someone on here the other day said it would take 5 to 7 million dollars to this.  Actually I suspect the number is somewhere around 20 million+.  That may seem to be a lot of money to a sport that whines about having to pay $4500 for a full up race bike but in the grand scheme of things, it is a pittance.
      Consider that Bruce and Arnie are paid $20 million for each movie they make, and they make 3 each a year.  A-Rod gets $25 million a year to play baseball.  Qwest and Verizon each spend over three million a day on advertising to get you to change long distance carriers.  Super Bowl ads are $2 million for 30 seconds.  Michael Jordan gets something like $800 million a year and Rush Limbaugh rakes in around $35 million.  The presenters at the Oscar's, Emmy's, Golden Globes et. al. get a little gift package worth around $20,000 to $30,000 EACH.  When you watch the awards, count the presenters and do the math.  The county is awash in money and all we have to do is be smart enough to get a little portion.  I AM THAT SMART. 
      I have tried to involve the speedway establishment (is that an oxy-moron) to no avail, so we will just go off in a new direction, with a new program.  Those of you who remember 1964, think back to how many brands of motocross bikes were on the market.  That is the year that I promoted what was likely the first motocross race ever held in the US.  I may not live another 37 years but now we have a pattern.
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      From: J Curry
      Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:11 PM
      To: speedwaybikes@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [speedwaybikes] Re: questionaire
      Where is all the funding coming from? Is this all year long, or just during
      "Speedway Season"? Is this under AMA? It just seems to be too far out there
      to actually happen, we bearly make 2 nights a week and then now its going to
      be a huge big event. You would have to have some kind of huge marketing
      business to just break even, when a promoter puts on a show away from the
      regular speedway places, there are usually more riders then there are people
      in the stands...

      From: "Donavon Dorsey" <darques@...>
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      Actually Joe I expect very few of what we think of today as "Division 1"
      riders will be interested in this.  They are generally older with families
      and careers or businesses.  I doubt many of them will want leave that to go
      barnstorming around the country.  A few of them may end up as coaches,
      trainers, managers, etc.  Some may even end up as team owners if they have
      the finances and some will wind up in the broadcast booth.  We will need
      someone who can comment as intelligently as the Lawn Mower race guys and the
      WWF.  The day I can take this program public and make a billion dollars
      (that's billion - with a B) in one day like Vince McMahon did with the WWF,
      I may think about retiring.

      The riders that do this are largely going to be in their late teens and
      early twenties.  A lot of them will probably come from places like Poland,
      Slovenia and Scandinavia  Some will have never ridden a speedway bike
      before, coming out of motocross and dirt track backgrounds in the US.

      You have to remember that this would be your job.  I could teach Stevie
      Wonder to ride a speedway bike in an afternoon, but it would take a long
      time to get him to go really fast.  This will be just like other sports.
      Work out in the morning, practice in the afternoon, watch film in the
      evening.  EVERY DAY but race day and the day after.

      If it turns out to be a barnstorming show then it is; practice in the
      afternoon, race in the evening, drive all night, sleep in the morning,
      practice in the afternoon, race in the evening, repeat as necessary.

      You will get good and you will be fast or you will be unemployed.  That will
      be the incentive.  There is no shortage of people who would like to be paid
      a good wage to have fun.  Thanks for asking.  Next question?


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: godden-racer@...
      Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:07 PM
      To: speedwaybikes@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [speedwaybikes] Re: questionaire

      Sorry for a strange question.... Is this restricted to D1 riders?


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    • gaétan carignan
      ok it.s not a secret, just information and i would more than one guy, if i give $100,000.00 US, how many dollars do you expect to pay for sign in or
      Message 36 of 36 , Feb 6, 2002
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        ok it.s not a secret, just information and i would
        more than one guy, if i give $100,000.00 US, how many
        dollars do you expect to pay for sign in or
        500.00, 1000.00 or 1500.00
        ga�tan # 51
        --- weslakerudy@... wrote:
        > **** FOR IMMEDIATE PRESS RELEASE *****
        > A ~~~~~ has been announced to be held at ~~~~~~ on
        > ~~~~~~~. For
        > further information call ~~~~~~~ now ! All ~~~~~
        > are welcome to
        > participate. $~~~~~~~ will be ~~~~~~~~~ to all
        > ~~~~~~~~'s.
        > Thank you.
        > Signed,
        > "The Secret Motorcycle Racing Society",
        > (opps, I think I just broke a bylaw (sic)
        > Secret this, stealing that....man your starting to
        > scare me dude !!
        > Rudy
        > "Donavon Dorsey" <darques@...> wrote:
        > >Actually David if I won the lottery this would
        > happen this year, not a couple of years from now.
        > It is all about marketing and merchandising. My
        > brother and I have a theory that there is some kind
        > of organization called "The Secret Motorcycle
        > Racing Society" All clubs and promoters are
        > automatically members. The bylaws are simple, if
        > you hear of a motorcycle race you must not tell
        > anyone, and forget about it yourself as well.
        > >
        > >There is an event the first weekend of June every
        > year at the ORV park located about 20 miles west of
        > Olympia, WA, the capital of the state of Washington.
        > It is a beautiful facility with camping, a
        > motocross track, miles of trails and a 1/8 mile clay
        > flat track. The first week of June there is a big
        > event there called Dino (as in Dinosaur) Daze. They
        > have vintage racing, a swap meet, an antique
        > motorcycle show, a dance and other fun stuff. There
        > has never been a story in the local paper in the 15+
        > years they have been running it.
        > >
        > >The little bit I have revealed here about my plans
        > is merely the tippy top of an enormous iceberg. As
        > time goes by I will let out more and more detail as
        > the legal portions of this come together so others
        > can't steal my work. The larger parts will be
        > announced within the next 10 to 12 months, including
        > the web page and other details.
        > >
        > >DDD
        > >
        > >----- Original Message -----
        > >From: David Booth
        > >Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:07 PM
        > >To: speedwaybikes@yahoogroups.com
        > >Subject: Re: [speedwaybikes] questionaire
        > >
        > >did you win the lotto or something ??
        > >----- Original Message -----
        > >From: Donavon Dorsey
        > >To: speedwaybikes@yahoogroups.com
        > >Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 9:15 PM
        > >Subject: [speedwaybikes] questionaire
        > >
        > >
        > >Here is a quiz for the riders out there. Just a
        > show of hands, no long response required. Lurkers
        > may participate.
        > >
        > >How many of you would give up your day job to ride
        > speedway 26 weeks a year? Salary $50,000 annually
        > for regular riders and $35,000 for reserves. Paid
        > weekly with full benefits, including medical
        > insurance plus a 401k type retirement fund. No
        > prize money, just a salary. All travel expenses
        > paid. One or two meetings a week, plus special
        > events at Daytona, Sturgis, Springfield and Del Mar.
        > >
        > >That's enough detail for now. Think about it.
        > >
        > >DDD
        > >
        > >
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