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  • kyle simmons
    hi all. okay so im sure that just about everyone has the problem of their stickers wearing out, and end up buying those sticker-pack-things. i dont have the
    Message 1 of 21 , Jul 26 9:00 PM
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      hi all.

      okay so im sure that just about everyone has the problem of their stickers wearing out, and end up buying those sticker-pack-things. i dont have the money or patience (lol, mostly patience), so i came up with a funny souloution, thats cheap and long lasting.

      i took a cheapy dollar store cube, and removed the coloured plastic squares (used instead of stickers), and sanded them. then i took what was left of the original stickers off my cube and then cleaned it. i sanded the cube and cleaned it again. this was to ensure a good bond between the cube an plastic bits. and then glued the plastic on the cube.

      this brings up two obvoius issues, wich i noted right away.
      1. the cube was heavier, seemingly, alot heavier. probably because i was still so used to my normal cube. i got used to this in about 30 mins of solving.

      2. the cube is bigger. true, but only by about, 1/8 of an inch, wich i got fully used to in about an hour or so.

      this particullar mod cube is lubed with sewing machine oil.
      (i experiment with different oils on my cubes and so far olive oil, and sewing machine oil are my favourites.)

      apologies if this is also on the net somewhere, or someone else posted a similar mod or suggestion.

      btw, bew record of 42 seconds. (yeah im a newbie)

      -kyle simmons




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    • kyuubree
      Do what I do. Peel off the stickers and repaint with nail polish: http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7406/1001567jq8.jpg
      Message 2 of 21 , Jul 26 10:12 PM
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        Do what I do. Peel off the stickers and repaint with nail polish:

        http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7406/1001567jq8.jpg
        http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8977/1001570au1.jpg


        --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyle simmons
        <beamfreak314@...> wrote:
        >
        > hi all.
        >
        > okay so im sure that just about everyone has the problem of their
        stickers wearing out, and end up buying those sticker-pack-things. i
        dont have the money or patience (lol, mostly patience), so i came up
        with a funny souloution, thats cheap and long lasting.
        >
        > i took a cheapy dollar store cube, and removed the coloured plastic
        squares (used instead of stickers), and sanded them. then i took what
        was left of the original stickers off my cube and then cleaned it. i
        sanded the cube and cleaned it again. this was to ensure a good bond
        between the cube an plastic bits. and then glued the plastic on the cube.
        >
        > this brings up two obvoius issues, wich i noted right away.
        > 1. the cube was heavier, seemingly, alot heavier. probably because i
        was still so used to my normal cube. i got used to this in about 30
        mins of solving.
        >
        > 2. the cube is bigger. true, but only by about, 1/8 of an inch, wich
        i got fully used to in about an hour or so.
        >
        > this particullar mod cube is lubed with sewing machine oil.
        > (i experiment with different oils on my cubes and so far olive oil,
        and sewing machine oil are my favourites.)
        >
        > apologies if this is also on the net somewhere, or someone else
        posted a similar mod or suggestion.
        >
        > btw, bew record of 42 seconds. (yeah im a newbie)
        >
        > -kyle simmons
        >
        >
        >
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      • Tyson Mao
        No... I have to disagree. If you intend to compete in competitions, do not use nail polish. Such cubes are not allowed. Tyson Mao Astrophysics 06 California
        Message 3 of 21 , Jul 27 1:03 AM
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          No... I have to disagree. If you intend to compete in competitions, do
          not use nail polish. Such cubes are not allowed.

          Tyson Mao
          Astrophysics '06
          California Institute of Technology

          On Jul 26, 2006, at 10:12 PM, kyuubree wrote:

          > Do what I do. Peel off the stickers and repaint with nail polish:
          >
          > http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7406/1001567jq8.jpg
          > http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8977/1001570au1.jpg
          >
          > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyle simmons
          > <beamfreak314@...> wrote:
          > >
          > > hi all.
          > >
          > > okay so im sure that just about everyone has the problem of their
          > stickers wearing out, and end up buying those sticker-pack-things. i
          > dont have the money or patience (lol, mostly patience), so i came up
          > with a funny souloution, thats cheap and long lasting.
          > >
          > > i took a cheapy dollar store cube, and removed the coloured plastic
          > squares (used instead of stickers), and sanded them. then i took what
          > was left of the original stickers off my cube and then cleaned it. i
          > sanded the cube and cleaned it again. this was to ensure a good bond
          > between the cube an plastic bits. and then glued the plastic on the
          > cube.
          > >
          > > this brings up two obvoius issues, wich i noted right away.
          > > 1. the cube was heavier, seemingly, alot heavier. probably because i
          > was still so used to my normal cube. i got used to this in about 30
          > mins of solving.
          > >
          > > 2. the cube is bigger. true, but only by about, 1/8 of an inch, wich
          > i got fully used to in about an hour or so.
          > >
          > > this particullar mod cube is lubed with sewing machine oil.
          > > (i experiment with different oils on my cubes and so far olive oil,
          > and sewing machine oil are my favourites.)
          > >
          > > apologies if this is also on the net somewhere, or someone else
          > posted a similar mod or suggestion.
          > >
          > > btw, bew record of 42 seconds. (yeah im a newbie)
          > >
          > > -kyle simmons
          > >
          > >
          > >
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          > >
          >
          >
          >
        • d_funny007
          Both suggestions (tiles and using nail polish) are fairly common. If you ve been cubing for at least a few years it s likely that you ve tried things like
          Message 4 of 21 , Jul 27 2:23 AM
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            Both suggestions (tiles and using nail polish) are fairly common. If
            you've been cubing for at least a few years it's likely that you've
            tried things like that.

            Let's see... I've tried nail polish, certain enamels, things that
            required some oven-time..., using textured tiles from a Mefferts
            assembly cube, tiles from a cheap knock off cube, the stickers from
            rubiks.com. All of which I know find pretty tiresome. Similar
            stories from other longtime cubers.

            I must admit though, using colored electrical tape for a couple
            years did start to look really good though. But again, not very
            convienent, especially with my high standards for how rounded the
            corners should be, and the exact sizing, despite having fortitude
            for precision use of sissors.

            Don't sacrifice convienence for price. I recommend going with
            **CUBESMITH** sticker sets. Buy 8 standard sets for just $10, no
            shipping and occasionally $1/set at tournaments if you are lucky
            enough. Just be sure to get a consistancy with their blue, green,
            and yellow (there are at least two variations of those
            unfortunately). Those actually last pretty long, plus look amazing.

            Another point. Do not support knock-off cubes from say... a dollor
            store. Those are technically illigal. Only support true rubik's
            brand puzzles, Mefferts, and/or Eastsheen. Educate peeps that don't
            know better.


            -Doug





            --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyle simmons
            <beamfreak314@...> wrote:
            >
            > hi all.
            >
            > okay so im sure that just about everyone has the problem of their
            stickers wearing out, and end up buying those sticker-pack-things. i
            dont have the money or patience (lol, mostly patience), so i came up
            with a funny souloution, thats cheap and long lasting.
            >
            > i took a cheapy dollar store cube, and removed the coloured
            plastic squares (used instead of stickers), and sanded them. then i
            took what was left of the original stickers off my cube and then
            cleaned it. i sanded the cube and cleaned it again. this was to
            ensure a good bond between the cube an plastic bits. and then glued
            the plastic on the cube.
            >
            > this brings up two obvoius issues, wich i noted right away.
            > 1. the cube was heavier, seemingly, alot heavier. probably because
            i was still so used to my normal cube. i got used to this in about
            30 mins of solving.
            >
            > 2. the cube is bigger. true, but only by about, 1/8 of an inch,
            wich i got fully used to in about an hour or so.
            >
            > this particullar mod cube is lubed with sewing machine oil.
            > (i experiment with different oils on my cubes and so far olive
            oil, and sewing machine oil are my favourites.)
            >
            > apologies if this is also on the net somewhere, or someone else
            posted a similar mod or suggestion.
            >
            > btw, bew record of 42 seconds. (yeah im a newbie)
            >
            > -kyle simmons
            >
            >
            >
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          • kyuubree
            Well my suggestion was not given with competitions in mind, but rather a way to prevent sticker peeling. Nail polish holds up very well. Why aren t such cubes
            Message 5 of 21 , Jul 27 4:02 AM
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              Well my suggestion was not given with competitions in mind, but rather
              a way to prevent sticker peeling. Nail polish holds up very well.
              Why aren't such cubes allowed, by the way?

              Marcus Stuhr
              Wharton & CAS '09
              University of Pennsylvania

              --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote:
              >
              > No... I have to disagree. If you intend to compete in competitions, do
              > not use nail polish. Such cubes are not allowed.
              >
              > Tyson Mao
              > Astrophysics '06
              > California Institute of Technology
              >
              > On Jul 26, 2006, at 10:12 PM, kyuubree wrote:
              >
              > > Do what I do. Peel off the stickers and repaint with nail polish:
              > >
              > > http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7406/1001567jq8.jpg
              > > http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8977/1001570au1.jpg
              > >
              > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyle simmons
              > > <beamfreak314@> wrote:
              > > >
              > > > hi all.
              > > >
              > > > okay so im sure that just about everyone has the problem of their
              > > stickers wearing out, and end up buying those sticker-pack-things. i
              > > dont have the money or patience (lol, mostly patience), so i came up
              > > with a funny souloution, thats cheap and long lasting.
              > > >
              > > > i took a cheapy dollar store cube, and removed the coloured plastic
              > > squares (used instead of stickers), and sanded them. then i took what
              > > was left of the original stickers off my cube and then cleaned it. i
              > > sanded the cube and cleaned it again. this was to ensure a good bond
              > > between the cube an plastic bits. and then glued the plastic on the
              > > cube.
              > > >
              > > > this brings up two obvoius issues, wich i noted right away.
              > > > 1. the cube was heavier, seemingly, alot heavier. probably
              because i
              > > was still so used to my normal cube. i got used to this in about 30
              > > mins of solving.
              > > >
              > > > 2. the cube is bigger. true, but only by about, 1/8 of an inch,
              wich
              > > i got fully used to in about an hour or so.
              > > >
              > > > this particullar mod cube is lubed with sewing machine oil.
              > > > (i experiment with different oils on my cubes and so far olive oil,
              > > and sewing machine oil are my favourites.)
              > > >
              > > > apologies if this is also on the net somewhere, or someone else
              > > posted a similar mod or suggestion.
              > > >
              > > > btw, bew record of 42 seconds. (yeah im a newbie)
              > > >
              > > > -kyle simmons
              > > >
              > > >
              > > >
              > > >
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              > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              > > >
              > >
              > >
              > >
              >
            • d_funny007
              Only the polypropylene stickers that come with most cubes will peel that easily. Polyvinyl chloride (PVC/polychloroethene) stickers from rubiks.com will not
              Message 6 of 21 , Jul 27 6:23 AM
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                Only the polypropylene stickers that come with most cubes will peel
                that easily. Polyvinyl chloride (PVC/polychloroethene) stickers from
                rubiks.com will not peel. (Although their corners do occasionally
                fold if very careless.) I do not recommend purchasing the
                polypropylene stickers from rubiks.com, they are basically laminated
                paper with a dye in between.

                So why do they sell both sticker types? The ones that last longer
                are muted in brightness and the ones that peel easily are quite
                bright and cheerful.

                The solution: make thicker PVC stickers!

                In general, due to their pricing and failure to make PVC stickers
                thick enough, I personally boycott them. Instead I opt to buy from
                cubesmith.com, which offers superior service and stickers of amazing
                quality and lifespan.

                Also, do note that cubesmith sets are somewhat "soft," and
                rubiks.com's PVC ones are rather "hard." This has trade-offs as well
                which is probably beyond the scope of this topic.

                The problem with painting your cube in anyway, is that it's going to
                end up looking terrible. Trust me, I've tried everyting. Besides, it
                somehow violates an intrinsic nature of the pop icon itself. And for
                the same reason I don't use tiled cubes. So unless you are going for
                a special look... I see no reason why any passionate cuber would
                want to do that to their cubes, let alone their main speedcube.

                On the other hand, is it really not alllowed in competitions? I was
                not aware of this. Plus, I'm sure that some one was using a painted
                cube at Nationals 04... o_O?? When was this rule added and why?
                (Just curious, doesn't really concern me.)

                Oh, I almost forgot to mention... rubiks.com has rather crappy
                service IMHO, but I've hear varing things from other buyers.


                -Doug



                --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree
                <no_reply@...> wrote:
                >
                > Well my suggestion was not given with competitions in mind, but
                rather
                > a way to prevent sticker peeling. Nail polish holds up very well.
                > Why aren't such cubes allowed, by the way?
                >
                > Marcus Stuhr
                > Wharton & CAS '09
                > University of Pennsylvania
                >
                > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@>
                wrote:
                > >
                > > No... I have to disagree. If you intend to compete in
                competitions, do
                > > not use nail polish. Such cubes are not allowed.
                > >
                > > Tyson Mao
                > > Astrophysics '06
                > > California Institute of Technology
                > >
                > > On Jul 26, 2006, at 10:12 PM, kyuubree wrote:
                > >
                > > > Do what I do. Peel off the stickers and repaint with nail
                polish:
                > > >
                > > > http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7406/1001567jq8.jpg
                > > > http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8977/1001570au1.jpg
                > > >
                > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyle simmons
                > > > <beamfreak314@> wrote:
                > > > >
                > > > > hi all.
                > > > >
                > > > > okay so im sure that just about everyone has the problem of
                their
                > > > stickers wearing out, and end up buying those sticker-pack-
                things. i
                > > > dont have the money or patience (lol, mostly patience), so i
                came up
                > > > with a funny souloution, thats cheap and long lasting.
                > > > >
                > > > > i took a cheapy dollar store cube, and removed the coloured
                plastic
                > > > squares (used instead of stickers), and sanded them. then i
                took what
                > > > was left of the original stickers off my cube and then
                cleaned it. i
                > > > sanded the cube and cleaned it again. this was to ensure a
                good bond
                > > > between the cube an plastic bits. and then glued the plastic
                on the
                > > > cube.
                > > > >
                > > > > this brings up two obvoius issues, wich i noted right away.
                > > > > 1. the cube was heavier, seemingly, alot heavier. probably
                > because i
                > > > was still so used to my normal cube. i got used to this in
                about 30
                > > > mins of solving.
                > > > >
                > > > > 2. the cube is bigger. true, but only by about, 1/8 of an
                inch,
                > wich
                > > > i got fully used to in about an hour or so.
                > > > >
                > > > > this particullar mod cube is lubed with sewing machine oil.
                > > > > (i experiment with different oils on my cubes and so far
                olive oil,
                > > > and sewing machine oil are my favourites.)
                > > > >
                > > > > apologies if this is also on the net somewhere, or someone
                else
                > > > posted a similar mod or suggestion.
                > > > >
                > > > > btw, bew record of 42 seconds. (yeah im a newbie)
                > > > >
                > > > > -kyle simmons
                > > > >
                > > > >
                > > > >
                > > > >
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                > > > > ---------------------------------
                > > > > Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane.
                > > > >
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                > > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > >
                >
              • Tyson Mao
                Rules were changed in 2006. Two main reasons. People who have colors that bleed might be able to use it to their advantage. As every other sport has
                Message 7 of 21 , Jul 27 7:56 AM
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                  Rules were changed in 2006.

                  Two main reasons. People who have colors that "bleed" might be able to
                  use it to their advantage.

                  As every other sport has standards regarding their equipment, we want
                  some standard of decency on your cube as well.

                  Tyson Mao
                  Astrophysics '06
                  California Institute of Technology

                  On Jul 27, 2006, at 6:23 AM, d_funny007 wrote:

                  > Only the polypropylene stickers that come with most cubes will peel
                  > that easily. Polyvinyl chloride (PVC/polychloroethene) stickers from
                  > rubiks.com will not peel. (Although their corners do occasionally
                  > fold if very careless.) I do not recommend purchasing the
                  > polypropylene stickers from rubiks.com, they are basically laminated
                  > paper with a dye in between.
                  >
                  > So why do they sell both sticker types? The ones that last longer
                  > are muted in brightness and the ones that peel easily are quite
                  > bright and cheerful.
                  >
                  > The solution: make thicker PVC stickers!
                  >
                  > In general, due to their pricing and failure to make PVC stickers
                  > thick enough, I personally boycott them. Instead I opt to buy from
                  > cubesmith.com, which offers superior service and stickers of amazing
                  > quality and lifespan.
                  >
                  > Also, do note that cubesmith sets are somewhat "soft," and
                  > rubiks.com's PVC ones are rather "hard." This has trade-offs as well
                  > which is probably beyond the scope of this topic.
                  >
                  > The problem with painting your cube in anyway, is that it's going to
                  > end up looking terrible. Trust me, I've tried everyting. Besides, it
                  > somehow violates an intrinsic nature of the pop icon itself. And for
                  > the same reason I don't use tiled cubes. So unless you are going for
                  > a special look... I see no reason why any passionate cuber would
                  > want to do that to their cubes, let alone their main speedcube.
                  >
                  > On the other hand, is it really not alllowed in competitions? I was
                  > not aware of this. Plus, I'm sure that some one was using a painted
                  > cube at Nationals 04... o_O?? When was this rule added and why?
                  > (Just curious, doesn't really concern me.)
                  >
                  > Oh, I almost forgot to mention... rubiks.com has rather crappy
                  > service IMHO, but I've hear varing things from other buyers.
                  >
                  > -Doug
                  >
                  > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree
                  > <no_reply@...> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > Well my suggestion was not given with competitions in mind, but
                  > rather
                  > > a way to prevent sticker peeling. Nail polish holds up very well.
                  > > Why aren't such cubes allowed, by the way?
                  > >
                  > > Marcus Stuhr
                  > > Wharton & CAS '09
                  > > University of Pennsylvania
                  > >
                  > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@>
                  > wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > No... I have to disagree. If you intend to compete in
                  > competitions, do
                  > > > not use nail polish. Such cubes are not allowed.
                  > > >
                  > > > Tyson Mao
                  > > > Astrophysics '06
                  > > > California Institute of Technology
                  > > >
                  > > > On Jul 26, 2006, at 10:12 PM, kyuubree wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > > Do what I do. Peel off the stickers and repaint with nail
                  > polish:
                  > > > >
                  > > > > http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7406/1001567jq8.jpg
                  > > > > http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8977/1001570au1.jpg
                  > > > >
                  > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyle simmons
                  > > > > <beamfreak314@> wrote:
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > > hi all.
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > > okay so im sure that just about everyone has the problem of
                  > their
                  > > > > stickers wearing out, and end up buying those sticker-pack-
                  > things. i
                  > > > > dont have the money or patience (lol, mostly patience), so i
                  > came up
                  > > > > with a funny souloution, thats cheap and long lasting.
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > > i took a cheapy dollar store cube, and removed the coloured
                  > plastic
                  > > > > squares (used instead of stickers), and sanded them. then i
                  > took what
                  > > > > was left of the original stickers off my cube and then
                  > cleaned it. i
                  > > > > sanded the cube and cleaned it again. this was to ensure a
                  > good bond
                  > > > > between the cube an plastic bits. and then glued the plastic
                  > on the
                  > > > > cube.
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > > this brings up two obvoius issues, wich i noted right away.
                  > > > > > 1. the cube was heavier, seemingly, alot heavier. probably
                  > > because i
                  > > > > was still so used to my normal cube. i got used to this in
                  > about 30
                  > > > > mins of solving.
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > > 2. the cube is bigger. true, but only by about, 1/8 of an
                  > inch,
                  > > wich
                  > > > > i got fully used to in about an hour or so.
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > > this particullar mod cube is lubed with sewing machine oil.
                  > > > > > (i experiment with different oils on my cubes and so far
                  > olive oil,
                  > > > > and sewing machine oil are my favourites.)
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > > apologies if this is also on the net somewhere, or someone
                  > else
                  > > > > posted a similar mod or suggestion.
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > > btw, bew record of 42 seconds. (yeah im a newbie)
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > > -kyle simmons
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > >
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                  > > > > > All new Yahoo! Mail -
                  > > > > > ---------------------------------
                  > > > > > Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane.
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                  > > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > >
                  > >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                • Tyson Mao
                  In the United States, there are regulations against having vinyl products on toys ... after all, we don t want a three-year-old eating vinyl. Tyson Mao
                  Message 8 of 21 , Jul 27 8:00 AM
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                    In the United States, there are regulations against having vinyl
                    products on "toys"... after all, we don't want a three-year-old eating
                    vinyl.

                    Tyson Mao
                    Astrophysics '06
                    California Institute of Technology

                    On Jul 27, 2006, at 6:23 AM, d_funny007 wrote:

                    > So why do they sell both sticker types? The ones that last longer
                    > are muted in brightness and the ones that peel easily are quite
                    > bright and cheerful.
                  • sgowal
                    ... Do you mean that bright colors (which tend to bleed , i.e. bright orange from cubesmith) are not allowed or just that not using stickers or tiles is not
                    Message 9 of 21 , Jul 27 8:40 AM
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                      > Two main reasons. People who have colors that "bleed" might be able
                      > to use it to their advantage.

                      Do you mean that bright colors (which tend to "bleed", i.e. bright
                      orange from cubesmith) are not allowed or just that "not using
                      stickers or tiles" is not allowed?

                      In the regulations it states that:
                      "Competitors must use any normal 6 colour scheme for cube puzzles".

                      I am not too sure what is intended by normal color scheme.

                      Thanks for any clarifications,

                      Sven
                    • Tyson Mao
                      A bright orange from cube smith is allowed. The wording normal 6 colour scheme is used to encourage people to use the six standard colors that come on a
                      Message 10 of 21 , Jul 27 9:32 AM
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                        A bright orange from cube smith is allowed.

                        The wording "normal 6 colour scheme" is used to encourage people to use
                        the six standard colors that come on a Rubik's Cube, also gives the
                        competition organizer and WCA delegate the option of disallowing cubes
                        with odd color schemes. In particular, we would be a bit worried about
                        a cube that has six sides of varying shades of gray which would be very
                        difficult to distinguish from one another. Determining when the cube
                        is solved shouldn't take more than a mere glance and that wording
                        protects against that.

                        Tyson Mao
                        Astrophysics '06
                        California Institute of Technology

                        On Jul 27, 2006, at 8:40 AM, sgowal wrote:

                        > > Two main reasons. People who have colors that "bleed" might be able
                        > > to use it to their advantage.
                        >
                        > Do you mean that bright colors (which tend to "bleed", i.e. bright
                        > orange from cubesmith) are not allowed or just that "not using
                        > stickers or tiles" is not allowed?
                        >
                        > In the regulations it states that:
                        > "Competitors must use any normal 6 colour scheme for cube puzzles".
                        >
                        > I am not too sure what is intended by normal color scheme.
                        >
                        > Thanks for any clarifications,
                        >
                        > Sven
                        >
                        >
                        >
                      • kyuubree
                        Understandable but lame -- are you allowed to use other competitors cubes at least? Marcus Stuhr Wharton & CAS 09 University of Pennsylvania
                        Message 11 of 21 , Jul 27 10:30 AM
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                          Understandable but lame -- are you allowed to use other competitors'
                          cubes at least?

                          Marcus Stuhr
                          Wharton & CAS '09
                          University of Pennsylvania

                          --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > Rules were changed in 2006.
                          >
                          > Two main reasons. People who have colors that "bleed" might be able to
                          > use it to their advantage.
                          >
                          > As every other sport has standards regarding their equipment, we want
                          > some standard of decency on your cube as well.
                          >
                          > Tyson Mao
                          > Astrophysics '06
                          > California Institute of Technology
                          >
                          > On Jul 27, 2006, at 6:23 AM, d_funny007 wrote:
                          >
                          > > Only the polypropylene stickers that come with most cubes will peel
                          > > that easily. Polyvinyl chloride (PVC/polychloroethene) stickers from
                          > > rubiks.com will not peel. (Although their corners do occasionally
                          > > fold if very careless.) I do not recommend purchasing the
                          > > polypropylene stickers from rubiks.com, they are basically laminated
                          > > paper with a dye in between.
                          > >
                          > > So why do they sell both sticker types? The ones that last longer
                          > > are muted in brightness and the ones that peel easily are quite
                          > > bright and cheerful.
                          > >
                          > > The solution: make thicker PVC stickers!
                          > >
                          > > In general, due to their pricing and failure to make PVC stickers
                          > > thick enough, I personally boycott them. Instead I opt to buy from
                          > > cubesmith.com, which offers superior service and stickers of amazing
                          > > quality and lifespan.
                          > >
                          > > Also, do note that cubesmith sets are somewhat "soft," and
                          > > rubiks.com's PVC ones are rather "hard." This has trade-offs as well
                          > > which is probably beyond the scope of this topic.
                          > >
                          > > The problem with painting your cube in anyway, is that it's going to
                          > > end up looking terrible. Trust me, I've tried everyting. Besides, it
                          > > somehow violates an intrinsic nature of the pop icon itself. And for
                          > > the same reason I don't use tiled cubes. So unless you are going for
                          > > a special look... I see no reason why any passionate cuber would
                          > > want to do that to their cubes, let alone their main speedcube.
                          > >
                          > > On the other hand, is it really not alllowed in competitions? I was
                          > > not aware of this. Plus, I'm sure that some one was using a painted
                          > > cube at Nationals 04... o_O?? When was this rule added and why?
                          > > (Just curious, doesn't really concern me.)
                          > >
                          > > Oh, I almost forgot to mention... rubiks.com has rather crappy
                          > > service IMHO, but I've hear varing things from other buyers.
                          > >
                          > > -Doug
                          > >
                          > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree
                          > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                          > > >
                          > > > Well my suggestion was not given with competitions in mind, but
                          > > rather
                          > > > a way to prevent sticker peeling. Nail polish holds up very well.
                          > > > Why aren't such cubes allowed, by the way?
                          > > >
                          > > > Marcus Stuhr
                          > > > Wharton & CAS '09
                          > > > University of Pennsylvania
                          > > >
                          > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@>
                          > > wrote:
                          > > > >
                          > > > > No... I have to disagree. If you intend to compete in
                          > > competitions, do
                          > > > > not use nail polish. Such cubes are not allowed.
                          > > > >
                          > > > > Tyson Mao
                          > > > > Astrophysics '06
                          > > > > California Institute of Technology
                          > > > >
                          > > > > On Jul 26, 2006, at 10:12 PM, kyuubree wrote:
                          > > > >
                          > > > > > Do what I do. Peel off the stickers and repaint with nail
                          > > polish:
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7406/1001567jq8.jpg
                          > > > > > http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8977/1001570au1.jpg
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyle simmons
                          > > > > > <beamfreak314@> wrote:
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > hi all.
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > okay so im sure that just about everyone has the problem of
                          > > their
                          > > > > > stickers wearing out, and end up buying those sticker-pack-
                          > > things. i
                          > > > > > dont have the money or patience (lol, mostly patience), so i
                          > > came up
                          > > > > > with a funny souloution, thats cheap and long lasting.
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > i took a cheapy dollar store cube, and removed the coloured
                          > > plastic
                          > > > > > squares (used instead of stickers), and sanded them. then i
                          > > took what
                          > > > > > was left of the original stickers off my cube and then
                          > > cleaned it. i
                          > > > > > sanded the cube and cleaned it again. this was to ensure a
                          > > good bond
                          > > > > > between the cube an plastic bits. and then glued the plastic
                          > > on the
                          > > > > > cube.
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > this brings up two obvoius issues, wich i noted right away.
                          > > > > > > 1. the cube was heavier, seemingly, alot heavier. probably
                          > > > because i
                          > > > > > was still so used to my normal cube. i got used to this in
                          > > about 30
                          > > > > > mins of solving.
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > 2. the cube is bigger. true, but only by about, 1/8 of an
                          > > inch,
                          > > > wich
                          > > > > > i got fully used to in about an hour or so.
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > this particullar mod cube is lubed with sewing machine oil.
                          > > > > > > (i experiment with different oils on my cubes and so far
                          > > olive oil,
                          > > > > > and sewing machine oil are my favourites.)
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > apologies if this is also on the net somewhere, or someone
                          > > else
                          > > > > > posted a similar mod or suggestion.
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > btw, bew record of 42 seconds. (yeah im a newbie)
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > -kyle simmons
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > ---------------------------------
                          > > > > > > All new Yahoo! Mail -
                          > > > > > > ---------------------------------
                          > > > > > > Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane.
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                          > > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > > >
                          > > > >
                          > > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          >
                        • Tyson Mao
                          Not if doing so interferes with the progress of the competition. If it doesn t affect the competition, how would anyone know? Tyson Mao Astrophysics 06
                          Message 12 of 21 , Jul 27 10:38 AM
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                            Not if doing so interferes with the progress of the competition. If it
                            doesn't affect the competition, how would anyone know?

                            Tyson Mao
                            Astrophysics '06
                            California Institute of Technology

                            On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:30 AM, kyuubree wrote:

                            > Understandable but lame -- are you allowed to use other competitors'
                            > cubes at least?
                            >
                            > Marcus Stuhr
                            > Wharton & CAS '09
                            > University of Pennsylvania
                            >
                            > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
                            > wrote:
                            > >
                            > > Rules were changed in 2006.
                            > >
                            > > Two main reasons. People who have colors that "bleed" might be able
                            > to
                            > > use it to their advantage.
                            > >
                            > > As every other sport has standards regarding their equipment, we
                            > want
                            > > some standard of decency on your cube as well.
                            > >
                            > > Tyson Mao
                            > > Astrophysics '06
                            > > California Institute of Technology
                            > >
                            > > On Jul 27, 2006, at 6:23 AM, d_funny007 wrote:
                            > >
                            > > > Only the polypropylene stickers that come with most cubes will
                            > peel
                            > > > that easily. Polyvinyl chloride (PVC/polychloroethene) stickers
                            > from
                            > > > rubiks.com will not peel. (Although their corners do occasionally
                            > > > fold if very careless.) I do not recommend purchasing the
                            > > > polypropylene stickers from rubiks.com, they are basically
                            > laminated
                            > > > paper with a dye in between.
                            > > >
                            > > > So why do they sell both sticker types? The ones that last longer
                            > > > are muted in brightness and the ones that peel easily are quite
                            > > > bright and cheerful.
                            > > >
                            > > > The solution: make thicker PVC stickers!
                            > > >
                            > > > In general, due to their pricing and failure to make PVC stickers
                            > > > thick enough, I personally boycott them. Instead I opt to buy from
                            > > > cubesmith.com, which offers superior service and stickers of
                            > amazing
                            > > > quality and lifespan.
                            > > >
                            > > > Also, do note that cubesmith sets are somewhat "soft," and
                            > > > rubiks.com's PVC ones are rather "hard." This has trade-offs as
                            > well
                            > > > which is probably beyond the scope of this topic.
                            > > >
                            > > > The problem with painting your cube in anyway, is that it's going
                            > to
                            > > > end up looking terrible. Trust me, I've tried everyting. Besides,
                            > it
                            > > > somehow violates an intrinsic nature of the pop icon itself. And
                            > for
                            > > > the same reason I don't use tiled cubes. So unless you are going
                            > for
                            > > > a special look... I see no reason why any passionate cuber would
                            > > > want to do that to their cubes, let alone their main speedcube.
                            > > >
                            > > > On the other hand, is it really not alllowed in competitions? I
                            > was
                            > > > not aware of this. Plus, I'm sure that some one was using a
                            > painted
                            > > > cube at Nationals 04... o_O?? When was this rule added and why?
                            > > > (Just curious, doesn't really concern me.)
                            > > >
                            > > > Oh, I almost forgot to mention... rubiks.com has rather crappy
                            > > > service IMHO, but I've hear varing things from other buyers.
                            > > >
                            > > > -Doug
                            > > >
                            > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree
                            > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Well my suggestion was not given with competitions in mind, but
                            > > > rather
                            > > > > a way to prevent sticker peeling. Nail polish holds up very
                            > well.
                            > > > > Why aren't such cubes allowed, by the way?
                            > > > >
                            > > > > Marcus Stuhr
                            > > > > Wharton & CAS '09
                            > > > > University of Pennsylvania
                            > > > >
                            > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@>
                            > > > wrote:
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > No... I have to disagree. If you intend to compete in
                            > > > competitions, do
                            > > > > > not use nail polish. Such cubes are not allowed.
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > Tyson Mao
                            > > > > > Astrophysics '06
                            > > > > > California Institute of Technology
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > On Jul 26, 2006, at 10:12 PM, kyuubree wrote:
                            > > > > >
                            > > > > > > Do what I do. Peel off the stickers and repaint with nail
                            > > > polish:
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7406/1001567jq8.jpg
                            > > > > > > http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8977/1001570au1.jpg
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyle simmons
                            > > > > > > <beamfreak314@> wrote:
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > hi all.
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > okay so im sure that just about everyone has the problem
                            > of
                            > > > their
                            > > > > > > stickers wearing out, and end up buying those sticker-pack-
                            > > > things. i
                            > > > > > > dont have the money or patience (lol, mostly patience), so i
                            > > > came up
                            > > > > > > with a funny souloution, thats cheap and long lasting.
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > i took a cheapy dollar store cube, and removed the
                            > coloured
                            > > > plastic
                            > > > > > > squares (used instead of stickers), and sanded them. then i
                            > > > took what
                            > > > > > > was left of the original stickers off my cube and then
                            > > > cleaned it. i
                            > > > > > > sanded the cube and cleaned it again. this was to ensure a
                            > > > good bond
                            > > > > > > between the cube an plastic bits. and then glued the plastic
                            > > > on the
                            > > > > > > cube.
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > this brings up two obvoius issues, wich i noted right
                            > away.
                            > > > > > > > 1. the cube was heavier, seemingly, alot heavier. probably
                            > > > > because i
                            > > > > > > was still so used to my normal cube. i got used to this in
                            > > > about 30
                            > > > > > > mins of solving.
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > 2. the cube is bigger. true, but only by about, 1/8 of an
                            > > > inch,
                            > > > > wich
                            > > > > > > i got fully used to in about an hour or so.
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > this particullar mod cube is lubed with sewing machine
                            > oil.
                            > > > > > > > (i experiment with different oils on my cubes and so far
                            > > > olive oil,
                            > > > > > > and sewing machine oil are my favourites.)
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > apologies if this is also on the net somewhere, or someone
                            > > > else
                            > > > > > > posted a similar mod or suggestion.
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > btw, bew record of 42 seconds. (yeah im a newbie)
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > -kyle simmons
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > ---------------------------------
                            > > > > > > > All new Yahoo! Mail -
                            > > > > > > > ---------------------------------
                            > > > > > > > Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane.
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                            > > > > > > >
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > > >
                            > > > > >
                            > > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > > >
                            > >
                            >
                            >
                            >
                          • kyuubree
                            What if there is absolutely no polish bleedover? Assume that the exact area covered by a sticker is then replaced by nail polish -- no difference in area
                            Message 13 of 21 , Jul 27 5:43 PM
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                              What if there is absolutely no polish bleedover? Assume that the exact
                              area covered by a sticker is then replaced by nail polish -- no
                              difference in area covered. Are white plastic cubes allowed even
                              though the way the colors interact with the eyes may differ? What
                              about differing color schemes? I mean any such things can technically
                              provide an "advantage" for certain people -- as long as there is no
                              difference in area of visibility or the nature of the visibility
                              itself (ie. from any given angle it is no easier or harder to
                              determine a predefined color on either a stickered or polished
                              edge/corner). Would this be an unfair request in terms of a
                              modification of the rules? Polish stays so much easier than stickers
                              and doesn't mess up when you apply silicone to the cube. Furthermore,
                              stickers for the bigger cubes are just not up to snuff (I mean
                              technically any peeling of a sticker on a 5x5x5 cube, for instance,
                              may give a BLD cuber a tactile advantage, etc).

                              Marcus Stuhr
                              Wharton & CAS '09
                              University of Pennsylvania

                              --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > Not if doing so interferes with the progress of the competition. If it
                              > doesn't affect the competition, how would anyone know?
                              >
                              > Tyson Mao
                              > Astrophysics '06
                              > California Institute of Technology
                              >
                              > On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:30 AM, kyuubree wrote:
                              >
                              > > Understandable but lame -- are you allowed to use other competitors'
                              > > cubes at least?
                              > >
                              > > Marcus Stuhr
                              > > Wharton & CAS '09
                              > > University of Pennsylvania
                              > >
                              > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@>
                              > > wrote:
                              > > >
                              > > > Rules were changed in 2006.
                              > > >
                              > > > Two main reasons. People who have colors that "bleed" might be
                              able
                              > > to
                              > > > use it to their advantage.
                              > > >
                              > > > As every other sport has standards regarding their equipment, we
                              > > want
                              > > > some standard of decency on your cube as well.
                              > > >
                              > > > Tyson Mao
                              > > > Astrophysics '06
                              > > > California Institute of Technology
                              > > >
                              > > > On Jul 27, 2006, at 6:23 AM, d_funny007 wrote:
                              > > >
                              > > > > Only the polypropylene stickers that come with most cubes will
                              > > peel
                              > > > > that easily. Polyvinyl chloride (PVC/polychloroethene) stickers
                              > > from
                              > > > > rubiks.com will not peel. (Although their corners do occasionally
                              > > > > fold if very careless.) I do not recommend purchasing the
                              > > > > polypropylene stickers from rubiks.com, they are basically
                              > > laminated
                              > > > > paper with a dye in between.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > So why do they sell both sticker types? The ones that last longer
                              > > > > are muted in brightness and the ones that peel easily are quite
                              > > > > bright and cheerful.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > The solution: make thicker PVC stickers!
                              > > > >
                              > > > > In general, due to their pricing and failure to make PVC stickers
                              > > > > thick enough, I personally boycott them. Instead I opt to buy
                              from
                              > > > > cubesmith.com, which offers superior service and stickers of
                              > > amazing
                              > > > > quality and lifespan.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Also, do note that cubesmith sets are somewhat "soft," and
                              > > > > rubiks.com's PVC ones are rather "hard." This has trade-offs as
                              > > well
                              > > > > which is probably beyond the scope of this topic.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > The problem with painting your cube in anyway, is that it's
                              going
                              > > to
                              > > > > end up looking terrible. Trust me, I've tried everyting.
                              Besides,
                              > > it
                              > > > > somehow violates an intrinsic nature of the pop icon itself. And
                              > > for
                              > > > > the same reason I don't use tiled cubes. So unless you are going
                              > > for
                              > > > > a special look... I see no reason why any passionate cuber would
                              > > > > want to do that to their cubes, let alone their main speedcube.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > On the other hand, is it really not alllowed in competitions? I
                              > > was
                              > > > > not aware of this. Plus, I'm sure that some one was using a
                              > > painted
                              > > > > cube at Nationals 04... o_O?? When was this rule added and why?
                              > > > > (Just curious, doesn't really concern me.)
                              > > > >
                              > > > > Oh, I almost forgot to mention... rubiks.com has rather crappy
                              > > > > service IMHO, but I've hear varing things from other buyers.
                              > > > >
                              > > > > -Doug
                              > > > >
                              > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree
                              > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > Well my suggestion was not given with competitions in mind, but
                              > > > > rather
                              > > > > > a way to prevent sticker peeling. Nail polish holds up very
                              > > well.
                              > > > > > Why aren't such cubes allowed, by the way?
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > Marcus Stuhr
                              > > > > > Wharton & CAS '09
                              > > > > > University of Pennsylvania
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao
                              <tmao@>
                              > > > > wrote:
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > No... I have to disagree. If you intend to compete in
                              > > > > competitions, do
                              > > > > > > not use nail polish. Such cubes are not allowed.
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > Tyson Mao
                              > > > > > > Astrophysics '06
                              > > > > > > California Institute of Technology
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > On Jul 26, 2006, at 10:12 PM, kyuubree wrote:
                              > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > Do what I do. Peel off the stickers and repaint with nail
                              > > > > polish:
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7406/1001567jq8.jpg
                              > > > > > > > http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8977/1001570au1.jpg
                              > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyle simmons
                              > > > > > > > <beamfreak314@> wrote:
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > hi all.
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > okay so im sure that just about everyone has the problem
                              > > of
                              > > > > their
                              > > > > > > > stickers wearing out, and end up buying those sticker-pack-
                              > > > > things. i
                              > > > > > > > dont have the money or patience (lol, mostly patience),
                              so i
                              > > > > came up
                              > > > > > > > with a funny souloution, thats cheap and long lasting.
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > i took a cheapy dollar store cube, and removed the
                              > > coloured
                              > > > > plastic
                              > > > > > > > squares (used instead of stickers), and sanded them. then i
                              > > > > took what
                              > > > > > > > was left of the original stickers off my cube and then
                              > > > > cleaned it. i
                              > > > > > > > sanded the cube and cleaned it again. this was to ensure a
                              > > > > good bond
                              > > > > > > > between the cube an plastic bits. and then glued the
                              plastic
                              > > > > on the
                              > > > > > > > cube.
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > this brings up two obvoius issues, wich i noted right
                              > > away.
                              > > > > > > > > 1. the cube was heavier, seemingly, alot heavier.
                              probably
                              > > > > > because i
                              > > > > > > > was still so used to my normal cube. i got used to this in
                              > > > > about 30
                              > > > > > > > mins of solving.
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > 2. the cube is bigger. true, but only by about, 1/8 of an
                              > > > > inch,
                              > > > > > wich
                              > > > > > > > i got fully used to in about an hour or so.
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > this particullar mod cube is lubed with sewing machine
                              > > oil.
                              > > > > > > > > (i experiment with different oils on my cubes and so far
                              > > > > olive oil,
                              > > > > > > > and sewing machine oil are my favourites.)
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > apologies if this is also on the net somewhere, or
                              someone
                              > > > > else
                              > > > > > > > posted a similar mod or suggestion.
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > btw, bew record of 42 seconds. (yeah im a newbie)
                              > > > > > > > >
                              > > > > > > > > -kyle simmons
                              > > > > > > > >
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                            • Billy Gard
                              I painted my revenge cube. I took off the stickers and painte with little jars of model paint, which has an acrylic-like toughness. I see what you mean about
                              Message 14 of 21 , Jul 27 6:40 PM
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                                I painted my revenge cube. I took off the stickers and painte with little jars of model paint, which has an acrylic-like toughness. I see what you mean about it not looking very good. I guess if I had put thin tape along all the edges it would have looked fine, as the paint would form squares much like stickers, rather than covering pretty much the whole face of the cubie.

                                As for solving the pocket cube, I found from the "Jeff Conquers the Cube in 45 Seconds" book about what he calls "correct edges". It is a clever visual shortcut for corner placement (so that the four sides of the layer are solid, i.e. correct edges). You have either no correct edges, one correct edge, or all correct edges. If you have none, just swap two diagonal corners. If you have one correct edge, swap the two adjacent corners across from it. That's it. By the way, when doing the second layer the same way, remember that in 2*2*2 speak, a double parallel swap is equivalent in effect to a diagonal swap, and a 3-cycle is equivalent to an adjacent swap.

                                Billy


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                              • Tyson Mao
                                No, the standards for the cube do not allow for nail polish. Area coverage by nail polish is subjective and quality of the nail polish job is also subjective
                                Message 15 of 21 , Jul 27 6:41 PM
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                                  No, the standards for the cube do not allow for nail polish. Area
                                  coverage by nail polish is subjective and quality of the nail polish
                                  job is also subjective so we want to avoid that.

                                  Tyson Mao
                                  Astrophysics '06
                                  California Institute of Technology

                                  On Jul 27, 2006, at 5:43 PM, kyuubree wrote:

                                  > What if there is absolutely no polish bleedover? Assume that the exact
                                  > area covered by a sticker is then replaced by nail polish -- no
                                  > difference in area covered. Are white plastic cubes allowed even
                                  > though the way the colors interact with the eyes may differ? What
                                  > about differing color schemes? I mean any such things can technically
                                  > provide an "advantage" for certain people -- as long as there is no
                                  > difference in area of visibility or the nature of the visibility
                                  > itself (ie. from any given angle it is no easier or harder to
                                  > determine a predefined color on either a stickered or polished
                                  > edge/corner). Would this be an unfair request in terms of a
                                  > modification of the rules? Polish stays so much easier than stickers
                                  > and doesn't mess up when you apply silicone to the cube. Furthermore,
                                  > stickers for the bigger cubes are just not up to snuff (I mean
                                  > technically any peeling of a sticker on a 5x5x5 cube, for instance,
                                  > may give a BLD cuber a tactile advantage, etc).
                                  >
                                  > Marcus Stuhr
                                  > Wharton & CAS '09
                                  > University of Pennsylvania
                                  >
                                  > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
                                  > wrote:
                                  > >
                                  > > Not if doing so interferes with the progress of the competition. If
                                  > it
                                  > > doesn't affect the competition, how would anyone know?
                                  > >
                                  > > Tyson Mao
                                  > > Astrophysics '06
                                  > > California Institute of Technology
                                  > >
                                  > > On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:30 AM, kyuubree wrote:
                                  > >
                                  > > > Understandable but lame -- are you allowed to use other
                                  > competitors'
                                  > > > cubes at least?
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Marcus Stuhr
                                  > > > Wharton & CAS '09
                                  > > > University of Pennsylvania
                                  > > >
                                  > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@>
                                  > > > wrote:
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > Rules were changed in 2006.
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > Two main reasons. People who have colors that "bleed" might be
                                  > able
                                  > > > to
                                  > > > > use it to their advantage.
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > As every other sport has standards regarding their equipment, we
                                  > > > want
                                  > > > > some standard of decency on your cube as well.
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > Tyson Mao
                                  > > > > Astrophysics '06
                                  > > > > California Institute of Technology
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > On Jul 27, 2006, at 6:23 AM, d_funny007 wrote:
                                  > > > >
                                  > > > > > Only the polypropylene stickers that come with most cubes will
                                  > > > peel
                                  > > > > > that easily. Polyvinyl chloride (PVC/polychloroethene)
                                  > stickers
                                  > > > from
                                  > > > > > rubiks.com will not peel. (Although their corners do
                                  > occasionally
                                  > > > > > fold if very careless.) I do not recommend purchasing the
                                  > > > > > polypropylene stickers from rubiks.com, they are basically
                                  > > > laminated
                                  > > > > > paper with a dye in between.
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > So why do they sell both sticker types? The ones that last
                                  > longer
                                  > > > > > are muted in brightness and the ones that peel easily are
                                  > quite
                                  > > > > > bright and cheerful.
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > The solution: make thicker PVC stickers!
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > In general, due to their pricing and failure to make PVC
                                  > stickers
                                  > > > > > thick enough, I personally boycott them. Instead I opt to buy
                                  > from
                                  > > > > > cubesmith.com, which offers superior service and stickers of
                                  > > > amazing
                                  > > > > > quality and lifespan.
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > Also, do note that cubesmith sets are somewhat "soft," and
                                  > > > > > rubiks.com's PVC ones are rather "hard." This has trade-offs
                                  > as
                                  > > > well
                                  > > > > > which is probably beyond the scope of this topic.
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > The problem with painting your cube in anyway, is that it's
                                  > going
                                  > > > to
                                  > > > > > end up looking terrible. Trust me, I've tried everyting.
                                  > Besides,
                                  > > > it
                                  > > > > > somehow violates an intrinsic nature of the pop icon itself.
                                  > And
                                  > > > for
                                  > > > > > the same reason I don't use tiled cubes. So unless you are
                                  > going
                                  > > > for
                                  > > > > > a special look... I see no reason why any passionate cuber
                                  > would
                                  > > > > > want to do that to their cubes, let alone their main
                                  > speedcube.
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > On the other hand, is it really not alllowed in competitions?
                                  > I
                                  > > > was
                                  > > > > > not aware of this. Plus, I'm sure that some one was using a
                                  > > > painted
                                  > > > > > cube at Nationals 04... o_O?? When was this rule added and
                                  > why?
                                  > > > > > (Just curious, doesn't really concern me.)
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > Oh, I almost forgot to mention... rubiks.com has rather crappy
                                  > > > > > service IMHO, but I've hear varing things from other buyers.
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > -Doug
                                  > > > > >
                                  > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree
                                  > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > Well my suggestion was not given with competitions in mind,
                                  > but
                                  > > > > > rather
                                  > > > > > > a way to prevent sticker peeling. Nail polish holds up very
                                  > > > well.
                                  > > > > > > Why aren't such cubes allowed, by the way?
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > Marcus Stuhr
                                  > > > > > > Wharton & CAS '09
                                  > > > > > > University of Pennsylvania
                                  > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao
                                  > <tmao@>
                                  > > > > > wrote:
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > No... I have to disagree. If you intend to compete in
                                  > > > > > competitions, do
                                  > > > > > > > not use nail polish. Such cubes are not allowed.
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > Tyson Mao
                                  > > > > > > > Astrophysics '06
                                  > > > > > > > California Institute of Technology
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 2006, at 10:12 PM, kyuubree wrote:
                                  > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > > Do what I do. Peel off the stickers and repaint with
                                  > nail
                                  > > > > > polish:
                                  > > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > > http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7406/1001567jq8.jpg
                                  > > > > > > > > http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8977/1001570au1.jpg
                                  > > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyle
                                  > simmons
                                  > > > > > > > > <beamfreak314@> wrote:
                                  > > > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > > > hi all.
                                  > > > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > > > okay so im sure that just about everyone has the
                                  > problem
                                  > > > of
                                  > > > > > their
                                  > > > > > > > > stickers wearing out, and end up buying those
                                  > sticker-pack-
                                  > > > > > things. i
                                  > > > > > > > > dont have the money or patience (lol, mostly patience),
                                  > so i
                                  > > > > > came up
                                  > > > > > > > > with a funny souloution, thats cheap and long lasting.
                                  > > > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > > > i took a cheapy dollar store cube, and removed the
                                  > > > coloured
                                  > > > > > plastic
                                  > > > > > > > > squares (used instead of stickers), and sanded them.
                                  > then i
                                  > > > > > took what
                                  > > > > > > > > was left of the original stickers off my cube and then
                                  > > > > > cleaned it. i
                                  > > > > > > > > sanded the cube and cleaned it again. this was to
                                  > ensure a
                                  > > > > > good bond
                                  > > > > > > > > between the cube an plastic bits. and then glued the
                                  > plastic
                                  > > > > > on the
                                  > > > > > > > > cube.
                                  > > > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > > > this brings up two obvoius issues, wich i noted right
                                  > > > away.
                                  > > > > > > > > > 1. the cube was heavier, seemingly, alot heavier.
                                  > probably
                                  > > > > > > because i
                                  > > > > > > > > was still so used to my normal cube. i got used to this
                                  > in
                                  > > > > > about 30
                                  > > > > > > > > mins of solving.
                                  > > > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > > > 2. the cube is bigger. true, but only by about, 1/8
                                  > of an
                                  > > > > > inch,
                                  > > > > > > wich
                                  > > > > > > > > i got fully used to in about an hour or so.
                                  > > > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > > > this particullar mod cube is lubed with sewing machine
                                  > > > oil.
                                  > > > > > > > > > (i experiment with different oils on my cubes and so
                                  > far
                                  > > > > > olive oil,
                                  > > > > > > > > and sewing machine oil are my favourites.)
                                  > > > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > > > apologies if this is also on the net somewhere, or
                                  > someone
                                  > > > > > else
                                  > > > > > > > > posted a similar mod or suggestion.
                                  > > > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > > > btw, bew record of 42 seconds. (yeah im a newbie)
                                  > > > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > > > -kyle simmons
                                  > > > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > > >
                                  > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------
                                  > > > > > > > > > All new Yahoo! Mail -
                                  > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------
                                  > > > > > > > > > Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading
                                  > pane.
                                  > > > > > > > > >
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                                • kyuubree
                                  Technically aren t different types of stickers also prone to an element of subjective quality? Marcus Stuhr Wharton & CAS 09 University of Pennsylvania ...
                                  Message 16 of 21 , Jul 27 6:48 PM
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                                    Technically aren't different types of stickers also prone to an
                                    element of subjective quality?

                                    Marcus Stuhr
                                    Wharton & CAS '09
                                    University of Pennsylvania

                                    --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote:
                                    >
                                    > No, the standards for the cube do not allow for nail polish. Area
                                    > coverage by nail polish is subjective and quality of the nail polish
                                    > job is also subjective so we want to avoid that.
                                    >
                                    > Tyson Mao
                                    > Astrophysics '06
                                    > California Institute of Technology
                                    >
                                    > On Jul 27, 2006, at 5:43 PM, kyuubree wrote:
                                    >
                                    > > What if there is absolutely no polish bleedover? Assume that the exact
                                    > > area covered by a sticker is then replaced by nail polish -- no
                                    > > difference in area covered. Are white plastic cubes allowed even
                                    > > though the way the colors interact with the eyes may differ? What
                                    > > about differing color schemes? I mean any such things can technically
                                    > > provide an "advantage" for certain people -- as long as there is no
                                    > > difference in area of visibility or the nature of the visibility
                                    > > itself (ie. from any given angle it is no easier or harder to
                                    > > determine a predefined color on either a stickered or polished
                                    > > edge/corner). Would this be an unfair request in terms of a
                                    > > modification of the rules? Polish stays so much easier than stickers
                                    > > and doesn't mess up when you apply silicone to the cube. Furthermore,
                                    > > stickers for the bigger cubes are just not up to snuff (I mean
                                    > > technically any peeling of a sticker on a 5x5x5 cube, for instance,
                                    > > may give a BLD cuber a tactile advantage, etc).
                                    > >
                                    > > Marcus Stuhr
                                    > > Wharton & CAS '09
                                    > > University of Pennsylvania
                                    > >
                                    > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@>
                                    > > wrote:
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Not if doing so interferes with the progress of the
                                    competition. If
                                    > > it
                                    > > > doesn't affect the competition, how would anyone know?
                                    > > >
                                    > > > Tyson Mao
                                    > > > Astrophysics '06
                                    > > > California Institute of Technology
                                    > > >
                                    > > > On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:30 AM, kyuubree wrote:
                                    > > >
                                    > > > > Understandable but lame -- are you allowed to use other
                                    > > competitors'
                                    > > > > cubes at least?
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > Marcus Stuhr
                                    > > > > Wharton & CAS '09
                                    > > > > University of Pennsylvania
                                    > > > >
                                    > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@>
                                    > > > > wrote:
                                    > > > > >
                                    > > > > > Rules were changed in 2006.
                                    > > > > >
                                    > > > > > Two main reasons. People who have colors that "bleed" might be
                                    > > able
                                    > > > > to
                                    > > > > > use it to their advantage.
                                    > > > > >
                                    > > > > > As every other sport has standards regarding their
                                    equipment, we
                                    > > > > want
                                    > > > > > some standard of decency on your cube as well.
                                    > > > > >
                                    > > > > > Tyson Mao
                                    > > > > > Astrophysics '06
                                    > > > > > California Institute of Technology
                                    > > > > >
                                    > > > > > On Jul 27, 2006, at 6:23 AM, d_funny007 wrote:
                                    > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > Only the polypropylene stickers that come with most cubes
                                    will
                                    > > > > peel
                                    > > > > > > that easily. Polyvinyl chloride (PVC/polychloroethene)
                                    > > stickers
                                    > > > > from
                                    > > > > > > rubiks.com will not peel. (Although their corners do
                                    > > occasionally
                                    > > > > > > fold if very careless.) I do not recommend purchasing the
                                    > > > > > > polypropylene stickers from rubiks.com, they are basically
                                    > > > > laminated
                                    > > > > > > paper with a dye in between.
                                    > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > So why do they sell both sticker types? The ones that last
                                    > > longer
                                    > > > > > > are muted in brightness and the ones that peel easily are
                                    > > quite
                                    > > > > > > bright and cheerful.
                                    > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > The solution: make thicker PVC stickers!
                                    > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > In general, due to their pricing and failure to make PVC
                                    > > stickers
                                    > > > > > > thick enough, I personally boycott them. Instead I opt to buy
                                    > > from
                                    > > > > > > cubesmith.com, which offers superior service and stickers of
                                    > > > > amazing
                                    > > > > > > quality and lifespan.
                                    > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > Also, do note that cubesmith sets are somewhat "soft," and
                                    > > > > > > rubiks.com's PVC ones are rather "hard." This has trade-offs
                                    > > as
                                    > > > > well
                                    > > > > > > which is probably beyond the scope of this topic.
                                    > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > The problem with painting your cube in anyway, is that it's
                                    > > going
                                    > > > > to
                                    > > > > > > end up looking terrible. Trust me, I've tried everyting.
                                    > > Besides,
                                    > > > > it
                                    > > > > > > somehow violates an intrinsic nature of the pop icon itself.
                                    > > And
                                    > > > > for
                                    > > > > > > the same reason I don't use tiled cubes. So unless you are
                                    > > going
                                    > > > > for
                                    > > > > > > a special look... I see no reason why any passionate cuber
                                    > > would
                                    > > > > > > want to do that to their cubes, let alone their main
                                    > > speedcube.
                                    > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > On the other hand, is it really not alllowed in
                                    competitions?
                                    > > I
                                    > > > > was
                                    > > > > > > not aware of this. Plus, I'm sure that some one was using a
                                    > > > > painted
                                    > > > > > > cube at Nationals 04... o_O?? When was this rule added and
                                    > > why?
                                    > > > > > > (Just curious, doesn't really concern me.)
                                    > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > Oh, I almost forgot to mention... rubiks.com has rather
                                    crappy
                                    > > > > > > service IMHO, but I've hear varing things from other buyers.
                                    > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > -Doug
                                    > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree
                                    > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                                    > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > Well my suggestion was not given with competitions in
                                    mind,
                                    > > but
                                    > > > > > > rather
                                    > > > > > > > a way to prevent sticker peeling. Nail polish holds up very
                                    > > > > well.
                                    > > > > > > > Why aren't such cubes allowed, by the way?
                                    > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > Marcus Stuhr
                                    > > > > > > > Wharton & CAS '09
                                    > > > > > > > University of Pennsylvania
                                    > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao
                                    > > <tmao@>
                                    > > > > > > wrote:
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > No... I have to disagree. If you intend to compete in
                                    > > > > > > competitions, do
                                    > > > > > > > > not use nail polish. Such cubes are not allowed.
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao
                                    > > > > > > > > Astrophysics '06
                                    > > > > > > > > California Institute of Technology
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 2006, at 10:12 PM, kyuubree wrote:
                                    > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > > Do what I do. Peel off the stickers and repaint with
                                    > > nail
                                    > > > > > > polish:
                                    > > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > > http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7406/1001567jq8.jpg
                                    > > > > > > > > > http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8977/1001570au1.jpg
                                    > > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyle
                                    > > simmons
                                    > > > > > > > > > <beamfreak314@> wrote:
                                    > > > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > > > hi all.
                                    > > > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > > > okay so im sure that just about everyone has the
                                    > > problem
                                    > > > > of
                                    > > > > > > their
                                    > > > > > > > > > stickers wearing out, and end up buying those
                                    > > sticker-pack-
                                    > > > > > > things. i
                                    > > > > > > > > > dont have the money or patience (lol, mostly patience),
                                    > > so i
                                    > > > > > > came up
                                    > > > > > > > > > with a funny souloution, thats cheap and long lasting.
                                    > > > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > > > i took a cheapy dollar store cube, and removed the
                                    > > > > coloured
                                    > > > > > > plastic
                                    > > > > > > > > > squares (used instead of stickers), and sanded them.
                                    > > then i
                                    > > > > > > took what
                                    > > > > > > > > > was left of the original stickers off my cube and then
                                    > > > > > > cleaned it. i
                                    > > > > > > > > > sanded the cube and cleaned it again. this was to
                                    > > ensure a
                                    > > > > > > good bond
                                    > > > > > > > > > between the cube an plastic bits. and then glued the
                                    > > plastic
                                    > > > > > > on the
                                    > > > > > > > > > cube.
                                    > > > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > > > this brings up two obvoius issues, wich i noted right
                                    > > > > away.
                                    > > > > > > > > > > 1. the cube was heavier, seemingly, alot heavier.
                                    > > probably
                                    > > > > > > > because i
                                    > > > > > > > > > was still so used to my normal cube. i got used to
                                    this
                                    > > in
                                    > > > > > > about 30
                                    > > > > > > > > > mins of solving.
                                    > > > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > > > 2. the cube is bigger. true, but only by about, 1/8
                                    > > of an
                                    > > > > > > inch,
                                    > > > > > > > wich
                                    > > > > > > > > > i got fully used to in about an hour or so.
                                    > > > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > > > this particullar mod cube is lubed with sewing
                                    machine
                                    > > > > oil.
                                    > > > > > > > > > > (i experiment with different oils on my cubes and so
                                    > > far
                                    > > > > > > olive oil,
                                    > > > > > > > > > and sewing machine oil are my favourites.)
                                    > > > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > > > apologies if this is also on the net somewhere, or
                                    > > someone
                                    > > > > > > else
                                    > > > > > > > > > posted a similar mod or suggestion.
                                    > > > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > > > btw, bew record of 42 seconds. (yeah im a newbie)
                                    > > > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > > > -kyle simmons
                                    > > > > > > > > > >
                                    > > > > > > > > > >
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                                  • Tyson Mao
                                    Blindfold stickers are examined before the competition. If stickers are not satisfactory, we ask that they are replaced before the competition. This is not
                                    Message 17 of 21 , Jul 27 6:51 PM
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                                      Blindfold stickers are examined before the competition. If stickers
                                      are not satisfactory, we ask that they are replaced before the
                                      competition. This is not possible with nail polish.

                                      Tyson Mao
                                      Astrophysics '06
                                      California Institute of Technology

                                      On Jul 27, 2006, at 6:48 PM, kyuubree wrote:

                                      > Technically aren't different types of stickers also prone to an
                                      > element of subjective quality?
                                      >
                                      > Marcus Stuhr
                                      > Wharton & CAS '09
                                      > University of Pennsylvania
                                      >
                                      > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...>
                                      > wrote:
                                      > >
                                      > > No, the standards for the cube do not allow for nail polish. Area
                                      > > coverage by nail polish is subjective and quality of the nail polish
                                      > > job is also subjective so we want to avoid that.
                                      > >
                                      > > Tyson Mao
                                      > > Astrophysics '06
                                      > > California Institute of Technology
                                      > >
                                      > > On Jul 27, 2006, at 5:43 PM, kyuubree wrote:
                                      > >
                                      > > > What if there is absolutely no polish bleedover? Assume that the
                                      > exact
                                      > > > area covered by a sticker is then replaced by nail polish -- no
                                      > > > difference in area covered. Are white plastic cubes allowed even
                                      > > > though the way the colors interact with the eyes may differ? What
                                      > > > about differing color schemes? I mean any such things can
                                      > technically
                                      > > > provide an "advantage" for certain people -- as long as there is
                                      > no
                                      > > > difference in area of visibility or the nature of the visibility
                                      > > > itself (ie. from any given angle it is no easier or harder to
                                      > > > determine a predefined color on either a stickered or polished
                                      > > > edge/corner). Would this be an unfair request in terms of a
                                      > > > modification of the rules? Polish stays so much easier than
                                      > stickers
                                      > > > and doesn't mess up when you apply silicone to the cube.
                                      > Furthermore,
                                      > > > stickers for the bigger cubes are just not up to snuff (I mean
                                      > > > technically any peeling of a sticker on a 5x5x5 cube, for
                                      > instance,
                                      > > > may give a BLD cuber a tactile advantage, etc).
                                      > > >
                                      > > > Marcus Stuhr
                                      > > > Wharton & CAS '09
                                      > > > University of Pennsylvania
                                      > > >
                                      > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@>
                                      > > > wrote:
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Not if doing so interferes with the progress of the
                                      > competition. If
                                      > > > it
                                      > > > > doesn't affect the competition, how would anyone know?
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > Tyson Mao
                                      > > > > Astrophysics '06
                                      > > > > California Institute of Technology
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:30 AM, kyuubree wrote:
                                      > > > >
                                      > > > > > Understandable but lame -- are you allowed to use other
                                      > > > competitors'
                                      > > > > > cubes at least?
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > > > Marcus Stuhr
                                      > > > > > Wharton & CAS '09
                                      > > > > > University of Pennsylvania
                                      > > > > >
                                      > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao
                                      > <tmao@>
                                      > > > > > wrote:
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > Rules were changed in 2006.
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > Two main reasons. People who have colors that "bleed" might
                                      > be
                                      > > > able
                                      > > > > > to
                                      > > > > > > use it to their advantage.
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > As every other sport has standards regarding their
                                      > equipment, we
                                      > > > > > want
                                      > > > > > > some standard of decency on your cube as well.
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > Tyson Mao
                                      > > > > > > Astrophysics '06
                                      > > > > > > California Institute of Technology
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > On Jul 27, 2006, at 6:23 AM, d_funny007 wrote:
                                      > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > Only the polypropylene stickers that come with most cubes
                                      > will
                                      > > > > > peel
                                      > > > > > > > that easily. Polyvinyl chloride (PVC/polychloroethene)
                                      > > > stickers
                                      > > > > > from
                                      > > > > > > > rubiks.com will not peel. (Although their corners do
                                      > > > occasionally
                                      > > > > > > > fold if very careless.) I do not recommend purchasing the
                                      > > > > > > > polypropylene stickers from rubiks.com, they are basically
                                      > > > > > laminated
                                      > > > > > > > paper with a dye in between.
                                      > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > So why do they sell both sticker types? The ones that last
                                      > > > longer
                                      > > > > > > > are muted in brightness and the ones that peel easily are
                                      > > > quite
                                      > > > > > > > bright and cheerful.
                                      > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > The solution: make thicker PVC stickers!
                                      > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > In general, due to their pricing and failure to make PVC
                                      > > > stickers
                                      > > > > > > > thick enough, I personally boycott them. Instead I opt to
                                      > buy
                                      > > > from
                                      > > > > > > > cubesmith.com, which offers superior service and stickers
                                      > of
                                      > > > > > amazing
                                      > > > > > > > quality and lifespan.
                                      > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > Also, do note that cubesmith sets are somewhat "soft," and
                                      > > > > > > > rubiks.com's PVC ones are rather "hard." This has
                                      > trade-offs
                                      > > > as
                                      > > > > > well
                                      > > > > > > > which is probably beyond the scope of this topic.
                                      > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > The problem with painting your cube in anyway, is that
                                      > it's
                                      > > > going
                                      > > > > > to
                                      > > > > > > > end up looking terrible. Trust me, I've tried everyting.
                                      > > > Besides,
                                      > > > > > it
                                      > > > > > > > somehow violates an intrinsic nature of the pop icon
                                      > itself.
                                      > > > And
                                      > > > > > for
                                      > > > > > > > the same reason I don't use tiled cubes. So unless you are
                                      > > > going
                                      > > > > > for
                                      > > > > > > > a special look... I see no reason why any passionate cuber
                                      > > > would
                                      > > > > > > > want to do that to their cubes, let alone their main
                                      > > > speedcube.
                                      > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > On the other hand, is it really not alllowed in
                                      > competitions?
                                      > > > I
                                      > > > > > was
                                      > > > > > > > not aware of this. Plus, I'm sure that some one was using
                                      > a
                                      > > > > > painted
                                      > > > > > > > cube at Nationals 04... o_O?? When was this rule added and
                                      > > > why?
                                      > > > > > > > (Just curious, doesn't really concern me.)
                                      > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > Oh, I almost forgot to mention... rubiks.com has rather
                                      > crappy
                                      > > > > > > > service IMHO, but I've hear varing things from other
                                      > buyers.
                                      > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > -Doug
                                      > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree
                                      > > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > Well my suggestion was not given with competitions in
                                      > mind,
                                      > > > but
                                      > > > > > > > rather
                                      > > > > > > > > a way to prevent sticker peeling. Nail polish holds up
                                      > very
                                      > > > > > well.
                                      > > > > > > > > Why aren't such cubes allowed, by the way?
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > Marcus Stuhr
                                      > > > > > > > > Wharton & CAS '09
                                      > > > > > > > > University of Pennsylvania
                                      > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao
                                      > > > <tmao@>
                                      > > > > > > > wrote:
                                      > > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > > No... I have to disagree. If you intend to compete in
                                      > > > > > > > competitions, do
                                      > > > > > > > > > not use nail polish. Such cubes are not allowed.
                                      > > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao
                                      > > > > > > > > > Astrophysics '06
                                      > > > > > > > > > California Institute of Technology
                                      > > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 2006, at 10:12 PM, kyuubree wrote:
                                      > > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > > > Do what I do. Peel off the stickers and repaint with
                                      > > > nail
                                      > > > > > > > polish:
                                      > > > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > > >
                                      > http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7406/1001567jq8.jpg
                                      > > > > > > > > > > http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8977/1001570au1.jpg
                                      > > > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyle
                                      > > > simmons
                                      > > > > > > > > > > <beamfreak314@> wrote:
                                      > > > > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > > > > hi all.
                                      > > > > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > > > > okay so im sure that just about everyone has the
                                      > > > problem
                                      > > > > > of
                                      > > > > > > > their
                                      > > > > > > > > > > stickers wearing out, and end up buying those
                                      > > > sticker-pack-
                                      > > > > > > > things. i
                                      > > > > > > > > > > dont have the money or patience (lol, mostly
                                      > patience),
                                      > > > so i
                                      > > > > > > > came up
                                      > > > > > > > > > > with a funny souloution, thats cheap and long
                                      > lasting.
                                      > > > > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > > > > i took a cheapy dollar store cube, and removed the
                                      > > > > > coloured
                                      > > > > > > > plastic
                                      > > > > > > > > > > squares (used instead of stickers), and sanded them.
                                      > > > then i
                                      > > > > > > > took what
                                      > > > > > > > > > > was left of the original stickers off my cube and
                                      > then
                                      > > > > > > > cleaned it. i
                                      > > > > > > > > > > sanded the cube and cleaned it again. this was to
                                      > > > ensure a
                                      > > > > > > > good bond
                                      > > > > > > > > > > between the cube an plastic bits. and then glued the
                                      > > > plastic
                                      > > > > > > > on the
                                      > > > > > > > > > > cube.
                                      > > > > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > > > > this brings up two obvoius issues, wich i noted
                                      > right
                                      > > > > > away.
                                      > > > > > > > > > > > 1. the cube was heavier, seemingly, alot heavier.
                                      > > > probably
                                      > > > > > > > > because i
                                      > > > > > > > > > > was still so used to my normal cube. i got used to
                                      > this
                                      > > > in
                                      > > > > > > > about 30
                                      > > > > > > > > > > mins of solving.
                                      > > > > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > > > > 2. the cube is bigger. true, but only by about,
                                      > 1/8
                                      > > > of an
                                      > > > > > > > inch,
                                      > > > > > > > > wich
                                      > > > > > > > > > > i got fully used to in about an hour or so.
                                      > > > > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > > > > this particullar mod cube is lubed with sewing
                                      > machine
                                      > > > > > oil.
                                      > > > > > > > > > > > (i experiment with different oils on my cubes and
                                      > so
                                      > > > far
                                      > > > > > > > olive oil,
                                      > > > > > > > > > > and sewing machine oil are my favourites.)
                                      > > > > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > > > > apologies if this is also on the net somewhere, or
                                      > > > someone
                                      > > > > > > > else
                                      > > > > > > > > > > posted a similar mod or suggestion.
                                      > > > > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > > > > btw, bew record of 42 seconds. (yeah im a newbie)
                                      > > > > > > > > > > >
                                      > > > > > > > > > > > -kyle simmons
                                      > > > > > > > > > > >
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                                    • kyuubree
                                      Well, bummer. Looks like I gotta sit this one out, then. Marcus Stuhr Wharton & CAS 09 University of Pennsylvania ... polish ... might ... basically ... last
                                      Message 18 of 21 , Jul 27 6:52 PM
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                                        Well, bummer. Looks like I gotta sit this one out, then.

                                        Marcus Stuhr
                                        Wharton & CAS '09
                                        University of Pennsylvania

                                        --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@...> wrote:
                                        >
                                        > Blindfold stickers are examined before the competition. If stickers
                                        > are not satisfactory, we ask that they are replaced before the
                                        > competition. This is not possible with nail polish.
                                        >
                                        > Tyson Mao
                                        > Astrophysics '06
                                        > California Institute of Technology
                                        >
                                        > On Jul 27, 2006, at 6:48 PM, kyuubree wrote:
                                        >
                                        > > Technically aren't different types of stickers also prone to an
                                        > > element of subjective quality?
                                        > >
                                        > > Marcus Stuhr
                                        > > Wharton & CAS '09
                                        > > University of Pennsylvania
                                        > >
                                        > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@>
                                        > > wrote:
                                        > > >
                                        > > > No, the standards for the cube do not allow for nail polish. Area
                                        > > > coverage by nail polish is subjective and quality of the nail
                                        polish
                                        > > > job is also subjective so we want to avoid that.
                                        > > >
                                        > > > Tyson Mao
                                        > > > Astrophysics '06
                                        > > > California Institute of Technology
                                        > > >
                                        > > > On Jul 27, 2006, at 5:43 PM, kyuubree wrote:
                                        > > >
                                        > > > > What if there is absolutely no polish bleedover? Assume that the
                                        > > exact
                                        > > > > area covered by a sticker is then replaced by nail polish -- no
                                        > > > > difference in area covered. Are white plastic cubes allowed even
                                        > > > > though the way the colors interact with the eyes may differ? What
                                        > > > > about differing color schemes? I mean any such things can
                                        > > technically
                                        > > > > provide an "advantage" for certain people -- as long as there is
                                        > > no
                                        > > > > difference in area of visibility or the nature of the visibility
                                        > > > > itself (ie. from any given angle it is no easier or harder to
                                        > > > > determine a predefined color on either a stickered or polished
                                        > > > > edge/corner). Would this be an unfair request in terms of a
                                        > > > > modification of the rules? Polish stays so much easier than
                                        > > stickers
                                        > > > > and doesn't mess up when you apply silicone to the cube.
                                        > > Furthermore,
                                        > > > > stickers for the bigger cubes are just not up to snuff (I mean
                                        > > > > technically any peeling of a sticker on a 5x5x5 cube, for
                                        > > instance,
                                        > > > > may give a BLD cuber a tactile advantage, etc).
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > Marcus Stuhr
                                        > > > > Wharton & CAS '09
                                        > > > > University of Pennsylvania
                                        > > > >
                                        > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@>
                                        > > > > wrote:
                                        > > > > >
                                        > > > > > Not if doing so interferes with the progress of the
                                        > > competition. If
                                        > > > > it
                                        > > > > > doesn't affect the competition, how would anyone know?
                                        > > > > >
                                        > > > > > Tyson Mao
                                        > > > > > Astrophysics '06
                                        > > > > > California Institute of Technology
                                        > > > > >
                                        > > > > > On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:30 AM, kyuubree wrote:
                                        > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > Understandable but lame -- are you allowed to use other
                                        > > > > competitors'
                                        > > > > > > cubes at least?
                                        > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > Marcus Stuhr
                                        > > > > > > Wharton & CAS '09
                                        > > > > > > University of Pennsylvania
                                        > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao
                                        > > <tmao@>
                                        > > > > > > wrote:
                                        > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > Rules were changed in 2006.
                                        > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > Two main reasons. People who have colors that "bleed"
                                        might
                                        > > be
                                        > > > > able
                                        > > > > > > to
                                        > > > > > > > use it to their advantage.
                                        > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > As every other sport has standards regarding their
                                        > > equipment, we
                                        > > > > > > want
                                        > > > > > > > some standard of decency on your cube as well.
                                        > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > Tyson Mao
                                        > > > > > > > Astrophysics '06
                                        > > > > > > > California Institute of Technology
                                        > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > On Jul 27, 2006, at 6:23 AM, d_funny007 wrote:
                                        > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > Only the polypropylene stickers that come with most cubes
                                        > > will
                                        > > > > > > peel
                                        > > > > > > > > that easily. Polyvinyl chloride (PVC/polychloroethene)
                                        > > > > stickers
                                        > > > > > > from
                                        > > > > > > > > rubiks.com will not peel. (Although their corners do
                                        > > > > occasionally
                                        > > > > > > > > fold if very careless.) I do not recommend purchasing the
                                        > > > > > > > > polypropylene stickers from rubiks.com, they are
                                        basically
                                        > > > > > > laminated
                                        > > > > > > > > paper with a dye in between.
                                        > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > So why do they sell both sticker types? The ones that
                                        last
                                        > > > > longer
                                        > > > > > > > > are muted in brightness and the ones that peel easily are
                                        > > > > quite
                                        > > > > > > > > bright and cheerful.
                                        > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > The solution: make thicker PVC stickers!
                                        > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > In general, due to their pricing and failure to make PVC
                                        > > > > stickers
                                        > > > > > > > > thick enough, I personally boycott them. Instead I
                                        opt to
                                        > > buy
                                        > > > > from
                                        > > > > > > > > cubesmith.com, which offers superior service and
                                        stickers
                                        > > of
                                        > > > > > > amazing
                                        > > > > > > > > quality and lifespan.
                                        > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > Also, do note that cubesmith sets are somewhat
                                        "soft," and
                                        > > > > > > > > rubiks.com's PVC ones are rather "hard." This has
                                        > > trade-offs
                                        > > > > as
                                        > > > > > > well
                                        > > > > > > > > which is probably beyond the scope of this topic.
                                        > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > The problem with painting your cube in anyway, is that
                                        > > it's
                                        > > > > going
                                        > > > > > > to
                                        > > > > > > > > end up looking terrible. Trust me, I've tried everyting.
                                        > > > > Besides,
                                        > > > > > > it
                                        > > > > > > > > somehow violates an intrinsic nature of the pop icon
                                        > > itself.
                                        > > > > And
                                        > > > > > > for
                                        > > > > > > > > the same reason I don't use tiled cubes. So unless
                                        you are
                                        > > > > going
                                        > > > > > > for
                                        > > > > > > > > a special look... I see no reason why any passionate
                                        cuber
                                        > > > > would
                                        > > > > > > > > want to do that to their cubes, let alone their main
                                        > > > > speedcube.
                                        > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > On the other hand, is it really not alllowed in
                                        > > competitions?
                                        > > > > I
                                        > > > > > > was
                                        > > > > > > > > not aware of this. Plus, I'm sure that some one was
                                        using
                                        > > a
                                        > > > > > > painted
                                        > > > > > > > > cube at Nationals 04... o_O?? When was this rule
                                        added and
                                        > > > > why?
                                        > > > > > > > > (Just curious, doesn't really concern me.)
                                        > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > Oh, I almost forgot to mention... rubiks.com has rather
                                        > > crappy
                                        > > > > > > > > service IMHO, but I've hear varing things from other
                                        > > buyers.
                                        > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > -Doug
                                        > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree
                                        > > > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                                        > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > > Well my suggestion was not given with competitions in
                                        > > mind,
                                        > > > > but
                                        > > > > > > > > rather
                                        > > > > > > > > > a way to prevent sticker peeling. Nail polish holds up
                                        > > very
                                        > > > > > > well.
                                        > > > > > > > > > Why aren't such cubes allowed, by the way?
                                        > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > > Marcus Stuhr
                                        > > > > > > > > > Wharton & CAS '09
                                        > > > > > > > > > University of Pennsylvania
                                        > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com,
                                        Tyson Mao
                                        > > > > <tmao@>
                                        > > > > > > > > wrote:
                                        > > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > > > No... I have to disagree. If you intend to compete in
                                        > > > > > > > > competitions, do
                                        > > > > > > > > > > not use nail polish. Such cubes are not allowed.
                                        > > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao
                                        > > > > > > > > > > Astrophysics '06
                                        > > > > > > > > > > California Institute of Technology
                                        > > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 2006, at 10:12 PM, kyuubree wrote:
                                        > > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > Do what I do. Peel off the stickers and repaint
                                        with
                                        > > > > nail
                                        > > > > > > > > polish:
                                        > > > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7406/1001567jq8.jpg
                                        > > > > > > > > > > >
                                        http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8977/1001570au1.jpg
                                        > > > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyle
                                        > > > > simmons
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > <beamfreak314@> wrote:
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > > hi all.
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > > okay so im sure that just about everyone has the
                                        > > > > problem
                                        > > > > > > of
                                        > > > > > > > > their
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > stickers wearing out, and end up buying those
                                        > > > > sticker-pack-
                                        > > > > > > > > things. i
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > dont have the money or patience (lol, mostly
                                        > > patience),
                                        > > > > so i
                                        > > > > > > > > came up
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > with a funny souloution, thats cheap and long
                                        > > lasting.
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > > i took a cheapy dollar store cube, and
                                        removed the
                                        > > > > > > coloured
                                        > > > > > > > > plastic
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > squares (used instead of stickers), and sanded
                                        them.
                                        > > > > then i
                                        > > > > > > > > took what
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > was left of the original stickers off my cube and
                                        > > then
                                        > > > > > > > > cleaned it. i
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > sanded the cube and cleaned it again. this was to
                                        > > > > ensure a
                                        > > > > > > > > good bond
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > between the cube an plastic bits. and then
                                        glued the
                                        > > > > plastic
                                        > > > > > > > > on the
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > cube.
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > > this brings up two obvoius issues, wich i noted
                                        > > right
                                        > > > > > > away.
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. the cube was heavier, seemingly, alot heavier.
                                        > > > > probably
                                        > > > > > > > > > because i
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > was still so used to my normal cube. i got used to
                                        > > this
                                        > > > > in
                                        > > > > > > > > about 30
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > mins of solving.
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. the cube is bigger. true, but only by about,
                                        > > 1/8
                                        > > > > of an
                                        > > > > > > > > inch,
                                        > > > > > > > > > wich
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > i got fully used to in about an hour or so.
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > > this particullar mod cube is lubed with sewing
                                        > > machine
                                        > > > > > > oil.
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > > (i experiment with different oils on my cubes
                                        and
                                        > > so
                                        > > > > far
                                        > > > > > > > > olive oil,
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > and sewing machine oil are my favourites.)
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > > apologies if this is also on the net
                                        somewhere, or
                                        > > > > someone
                                        > > > > > > > > else
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > posted a similar mod or suggestion.
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > > btw, bew record of 42 seconds. (yeah im a newbie)
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > > -kyle simmons
                                        > > > > > > > > > > > >
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                                      • d_funny007
                                        Hem, Jon was into painting his cubes a whle back, I was hoping for input from him. I can understand how you feel. I ve argued for as many non-standard things
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                                          Hem, Jon was into painting his cubes a whle back, I was hoping for
                                          input from him.

                                          I can understand how you feel. I've argued for as many non-standard
                                          things as any cuber has. It dates back to me wanting to use a
                                          different color scheme in the Toronto Chamionship.

                                          However, in this case I agree with the rules as stated. It's much
                                          easier to police stickers than any sort of paint. Besides, any paint
                                          I've used chips away and quickly looks aweful... Assuming you cube
                                          as much as I do, then it would be cheaper in the long run to buy
                                          stickers. Stronger, longer lasting paints would cost much more than
                                          stickers and if you factor in the life of the cube than it still is
                                          not worth it. (I did the math.)

                                          Then again it might not chip off so much if I wasn't solving my cube
                                          >300 times daily, hehe.


                                          -Doug



                                          --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree
                                          <no_reply@...> wrote:
                                          >
                                          > Well, bummer. Looks like I gotta sit this one out, then.
                                          >
                                          > Marcus Stuhr
                                          > Wharton & CAS '09
                                          > University of Pennsylvania
                                          >
                                          > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@>
                                          wrote:
                                          > >
                                          > > Blindfold stickers are examined before the competition. If
                                          stickers
                                          > > are not satisfactory, we ask that they are replaced before the
                                          > > competition. This is not possible with nail polish.
                                          > >
                                          > > Tyson Mao
                                          > > Astrophysics '06
                                          > > California Institute of Technology
                                          > >
                                          > > On Jul 27, 2006, at 6:48 PM, kyuubree wrote:
                                          > >
                                          > > > Technically aren't different types of stickers also prone to an
                                          > > > element of subjective quality?
                                          > > >
                                          > > > Marcus Stuhr
                                          > > > Wharton & CAS '09
                                          > > > University of Pennsylvania
                                          > > >
                                          > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao
                                          <tmao@>
                                          > > > wrote:
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > No, the standards for the cube do not allow for nail
                                          polish. Area
                                          > > > > coverage by nail polish is subjective and quality of the
                                          nail
                                          > polish
                                          > > > > job is also subjective so we want to avoid that.
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > Tyson Mao
                                          > > > > Astrophysics '06
                                          > > > > California Institute of Technology
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > On Jul 27, 2006, at 5:43 PM, kyuubree wrote:
                                          > > > >
                                          > > > > > What if there is absolutely no polish bleedover? Assume
                                          that the
                                          > > > exact
                                          > > > > > area covered by a sticker is then replaced by nail
                                          polish -- no
                                          > > > > > difference in area covered. Are white plastic cubes
                                          allowed even
                                          > > > > > though the way the colors interact with the eyes may
                                          differ? What
                                          > > > > > about differing color schemes? I mean any such things can
                                          > > > technically
                                          > > > > > provide an "advantage" for certain people -- as long as
                                          there is
                                          > > > no
                                          > > > > > difference in area of visibility or the nature of the
                                          visibility
                                          > > > > > itself (ie. from any given angle it is no easier or
                                          harder to
                                          > > > > > determine a predefined color on either a stickered or
                                          polished
                                          > > > > > edge/corner). Would this be an unfair request in terms of
                                          a
                                          > > > > > modification of the rules? Polish stays so much easier
                                          than
                                          > > > stickers
                                          > > > > > and doesn't mess up when you apply silicone to the cube.
                                          > > > Furthermore,
                                          > > > > > stickers for the bigger cubes are just not up to snuff (I
                                          mean
                                          > > > > > technically any peeling of a sticker on a 5x5x5 cube, for
                                          > > > instance,
                                          > > > > > may give a BLD cuber a tactile advantage, etc).
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > > Marcus Stuhr
                                          > > > > > Wharton & CAS '09
                                          > > > > > University of Pennsylvania
                                          > > > > >
                                          > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao
                                          <tmao@>
                                          > > > > > wrote:
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > Not if doing so interferes with the progress of the
                                          > > > competition. If
                                          > > > > > it
                                          > > > > > > doesn't affect the competition, how would anyone know?
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > Tyson Mao
                                          > > > > > > Astrophysics '06
                                          > > > > > > California Institute of Technology
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:30 AM, kyuubree wrote:
                                          > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > Understandable but lame -- are you allowed to use
                                          other
                                          > > > > > competitors'
                                          > > > > > > > cubes at least?
                                          > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > Marcus Stuhr
                                          > > > > > > > Wharton & CAS '09
                                          > > > > > > > University of Pennsylvania
                                          > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson
                                          Mao
                                          > > > <tmao@>
                                          > > > > > > > wrote:
                                          > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > Rules were changed in 2006.
                                          > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > Two main reasons. People who have colors
                                          that "bleed"
                                          > might
                                          > > > be
                                          > > > > > able
                                          > > > > > > > to
                                          > > > > > > > > use it to their advantage.
                                          > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > As every other sport has standards regarding their
                                          > > > equipment, we
                                          > > > > > > > want
                                          > > > > > > > > some standard of decency on your cube as well.
                                          > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao
                                          > > > > > > > > Astrophysics '06
                                          > > > > > > > > California Institute of Technology
                                          > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > On Jul 27, 2006, at 6:23 AM, d_funny007 wrote:
                                          > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > Only the polypropylene stickers that come with
                                          most cubes
                                          > > > will
                                          > > > > > > > peel
                                          > > > > > > > > > that easily. Polyvinyl chloride
                                          (PVC/polychloroethene)
                                          > > > > > stickers
                                          > > > > > > > from
                                          > > > > > > > > > rubiks.com will not peel. (Although their corners
                                          do
                                          > > > > > occasionally
                                          > > > > > > > > > fold if very careless.) I do not recommend
                                          purchasing the
                                          > > > > > > > > > polypropylene stickers from rubiks.com, they are
                                          > basically
                                          > > > > > > > laminated
                                          > > > > > > > > > paper with a dye in between.
                                          > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > So why do they sell both sticker types? The ones
                                          that
                                          > last
                                          > > > > > longer
                                          > > > > > > > > > are muted in brightness and the ones that peel
                                          easily are
                                          > > > > > quite
                                          > > > > > > > > > bright and cheerful.
                                          > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > The solution: make thicker PVC stickers!
                                          > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > In general, due to their pricing and failure to
                                          make PVC
                                          > > > > > stickers
                                          > > > > > > > > > thick enough, I personally boycott them. Instead I
                                          > opt to
                                          > > > buy
                                          > > > > > from
                                          > > > > > > > > > cubesmith.com, which offers superior service and
                                          > stickers
                                          > > > of
                                          > > > > > > > amazing
                                          > > > > > > > > > quality and lifespan.
                                          > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > Also, do note that cubesmith sets are somewhat
                                          > "soft," and
                                          > > > > > > > > > rubiks.com's PVC ones are rather "hard." This has
                                          > > > trade-offs
                                          > > > > > as
                                          > > > > > > > well
                                          > > > > > > > > > which is probably beyond the scope of this topic.
                                          > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > The problem with painting your cube in anyway, is
                                          that
                                          > > > it's
                                          > > > > > going
                                          > > > > > > > to
                                          > > > > > > > > > end up looking terrible. Trust me, I've tried
                                          everyting.
                                          > > > > > Besides,
                                          > > > > > > > it
                                          > > > > > > > > > somehow violates an intrinsic nature of the pop
                                          icon
                                          > > > itself.
                                          > > > > > And
                                          > > > > > > > for
                                          > > > > > > > > > the same reason I don't use tiled cubes. So unless
                                          > you are
                                          > > > > > going
                                          > > > > > > > for
                                          > > > > > > > > > a special look... I see no reason why any
                                          passionate
                                          > cuber
                                          > > > > > would
                                          > > > > > > > > > want to do that to their cubes, let alone their
                                          main
                                          > > > > > speedcube.
                                          > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, is it really not alllowed in
                                          > > > competitions?
                                          > > > > > I
                                          > > > > > > > was
                                          > > > > > > > > > not aware of this. Plus, I'm sure that some one
                                          was
                                          > using
                                          > > > a
                                          > > > > > > > painted
                                          > > > > > > > > > cube at Nationals 04... o_O?? When was this rule
                                          > added and
                                          > > > > > why?
                                          > > > > > > > > > (Just curious, doesn't really concern me.)
                                          > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > Oh, I almost forgot to mention... rubiks.com has
                                          rather
                                          > > > crappy
                                          > > > > > > > > > service IMHO, but I've hear varing things from
                                          other
                                          > > > buyers.
                                          > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > -Doug
                                          > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com,
                                          kyuubree
                                          > > > > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
                                          > > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > > Well my suggestion was not given with
                                          competitions in
                                          > > > mind,
                                          > > > > > but
                                          > > > > > > > > > rather
                                          > > > > > > > > > > a way to prevent sticker peeling. Nail polish
                                          holds up
                                          > > > very
                                          > > > > > > > well.
                                          > > > > > > > > > > Why aren't such cubes allowed, by the way?
                                          > > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > > Marcus Stuhr
                                          > > > > > > > > > > Wharton & CAS '09
                                          > > > > > > > > > > University of Pennsylvania
                                          > > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com,
                                          > Tyson Mao
                                          > > > > > <tmao@>
                                          > > > > > > > > > wrote:
                                          > > > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > No... I have to disagree. If you intend to
                                          compete in
                                          > > > > > > > > > competitions, do
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > not use nail polish. Such cubes are not
                                          allowed.
                                          > > > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > Tyson Mao
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > Astrophysics '06
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > California Institute of Technology
                                          > > > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 26, 2006, at 10:12 PM, kyuubree wrote:
                                          > > > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > Do what I do. Peel off the stickers and
                                          repaint
                                          > with
                                          > > > > > nail
                                          > > > > > > > > > polish:
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7406/1001567jq8.jpg
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                          > http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8977/1001570au1.jpg
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In
                                          speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyle
                                          > > > > > simmons
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > <beamfreak314@> wrote:
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > > hi all.
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > > okay so im sure that just about everyone
                                          has the
                                          > > > > > problem
                                          > > > > > > > of
                                          > > > > > > > > > their
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > stickers wearing out, and end up buying
                                          those
                                          > > > > > sticker-pack-
                                          > > > > > > > > > things. i
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > dont have the money or patience (lol,
                                          mostly
                                          > > > patience),
                                          > > > > > so i
                                          > > > > > > > > > came up
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > with a funny souloution, thats cheap and
                                          long
                                          > > > lasting.
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > > i took a cheapy dollar store cube, and
                                          > removed the
                                          > > > > > > > coloured
                                          > > > > > > > > > plastic
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > squares (used instead of stickers), and
                                          sanded
                                          > them.
                                          > > > > > then i
                                          > > > > > > > > > took what
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > was left of the original stickers off my
                                          cube and
                                          > > > then
                                          > > > > > > > > > cleaned it. i
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > sanded the cube and cleaned it again. this
                                          was to
                                          > > > > > ensure a
                                          > > > > > > > > > good bond
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > between the cube an plastic bits. and then
                                          > glued the
                                          > > > > > plastic
                                          > > > > > > > > > on the
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > cube.
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > > this brings up two obvoius issues, wich i
                                          noted
                                          > > > right
                                          > > > > > > > away.
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. the cube was heavier, seemingly, alot
                                          heavier.
                                          > > > > > probably
                                          > > > > > > > > > > because i
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > was still so used to my normal cube. i got
                                          used to
                                          > > > this
                                          > > > > > in
                                          > > > > > > > > > about 30
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > mins of solving.
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. the cube is bigger. true, but only by
                                          about,
                                          > > > 1/8
                                          > > > > > of an
                                          > > > > > > > > > inch,
                                          > > > > > > > > > > wich
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > i got fully used to in about an hour or so.
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > > this particullar mod cube is lubed with
                                          sewing
                                          > > > machine
                                          > > > > > > > oil.
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > > (i experiment with different oils on my
                                          cubes
                                          > and
                                          > > > so
                                          > > > > > far
                                          > > > > > > > > > olive oil,
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > and sewing machine oil are my favourites.)
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > > apologies if this is also on the net
                                          > somewhere, or
                                          > > > > > someone
                                          > > > > > > > > > else
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > posted a similar mod or suggestion.
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > >
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > > btw, bew record of 42 seconds. (yeah im a
                                          newbie)
                                          > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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                                        • d_j_salvia
                                          Hi Doug, The problem with the bright stickers the cubes come with is the edges are cut at 90 degrees vertically. If they were cut at an angle then they
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                                            Hi Doug,

                                            The problem with the bright stickers the cubes come with is the edges
                                            are cut at 90 degrees vertically. If they were cut at an angle then
                                            they wouldn't catch fingertips like they do now.

                                            I changed how I handled a cube so that my fingertips didn't catch the
                                            edges and even with daily usage the stickers lasted a little over a
                                            year before they began to look raggedy.

                                            Cheers,

                                            David J

                                            --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, d_funny007
                                            <no_reply@...> wrote:
                                            >
                                            > Only the polypropylene stickers that come with most cubes will peel
                                            > that easily. Polyvinyl chloride (PVC/polychloroethene) stickers from
                                            > rubiks.com will not peel. (Although their corners do occasionally
                                            > fold if very careless.) I do not recommend purchasing the
                                            > polypropylene stickers from rubiks.com, they are basically laminated
                                            > paper with a dye in between.
                                            >
                                            > So why do they sell both sticker types? The ones that last longer
                                            > are muted in brightness and the ones that peel easily are quite
                                            > bright and cheerful.
                                            >
                                            > The solution: make thicker PVC stickers!
                                            >
                                            > In general, due to their pricing and failure to make PVC stickers
                                            > thick enough, I personally boycott them. Instead I opt to buy from
                                            > cubesmith.com, which offers superior service and stickers of amazing
                                            > quality and lifespan.
                                            >
                                            > Also, do note that cubesmith sets are somewhat "soft," and
                                            > rubiks.com's PVC ones are rather "hard." This has trade-offs as well
                                            > which is probably beyond the scope of this topic.
                                            >
                                            > The problem with painting your cube in anyway, is that it's going to
                                            > end up looking terrible. Trust me, I've tried everyting. Besides, it
                                            > somehow violates an intrinsic nature of the pop icon itself. And for
                                            > the same reason I don't use tiled cubes. So unless you are going for
                                            > a special look... I see no reason why any passionate cuber would
                                            > want to do that to their cubes, let alone their main speedcube.
                                            >
                                            > On the other hand, is it really not alllowed in competitions? I was
                                            > not aware of this. Plus, I'm sure that some one was using a painted
                                            > cube at Nationals 04... o_O?? When was this rule added and why?
                                            > (Just curious, doesn't really concern me.)
                                            >
                                            > Oh, I almost forgot to mention... rubiks.com has rather crappy
                                            > service IMHO, but I've hear varing things from other buyers.
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > -Doug
                                            >
                                            >
                                            >
                                            > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyuubree
                                            > <no_reply@> wrote:
                                            > >
                                            > > Well my suggestion was not given with competitions in mind, but
                                            > rather
                                            > > a way to prevent sticker peeling. Nail polish holds up very well.
                                            > > Why aren't such cubes allowed, by the way?
                                            > >
                                            > > Marcus Stuhr
                                            > > Wharton & CAS '09
                                            > > University of Pennsylvania
                                            > >
                                            > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, Tyson Mao <tmao@>
                                            > wrote:
                                            > > >
                                            > > > No... I have to disagree. If you intend to compete in
                                            > competitions, do
                                            > > > not use nail polish. Such cubes are not allowed.
                                            > > >
                                            > > > Tyson Mao
                                            > > > Astrophysics '06
                                            > > > California Institute of Technology
                                            > > >
                                            > > > On Jul 26, 2006, at 10:12 PM, kyuubree wrote:
                                            > > >
                                            > > > > Do what I do. Peel off the stickers and repaint with nail
                                            > polish:
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7406/1001567jq8.jpg
                                            > > > > http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8977/1001570au1.jpg
                                            > > > >
                                            > > > > --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, kyle simmons
                                            > > > > <beamfreak314@> wrote:
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > > hi all.
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > > okay so im sure that just about everyone has the problem of
                                            > their
                                            > > > > stickers wearing out, and end up buying those sticker-pack-
                                            > things. i
                                            > > > > dont have the money or patience (lol, mostly patience), so i
                                            > came up
                                            > > > > with a funny souloution, thats cheap and long lasting.
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > > i took a cheapy dollar store cube, and removed the coloured
                                            > plastic
                                            > > > > squares (used instead of stickers), and sanded them. then i
                                            > took what
                                            > > > > was left of the original stickers off my cube and then
                                            > cleaned it. i
                                            > > > > sanded the cube and cleaned it again. this was to ensure a
                                            > good bond
                                            > > > > between the cube an plastic bits. and then glued the plastic
                                            > on the
                                            > > > > cube.
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > > this brings up two obvoius issues, wich i noted right away.
                                            > > > > > 1. the cube was heavier, seemingly, alot heavier. probably
                                            > > because i
                                            > > > > was still so used to my normal cube. i got used to this in
                                            > about 30
                                            > > > > mins of solving.
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > > 2. the cube is bigger. true, but only by about, 1/8 of an
                                            > inch,
                                            > > wich
                                            > > > > i got fully used to in about an hour or so.
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > > this particullar mod cube is lubed with sewing machine oil.
                                            > > > > > (i experiment with different oils on my cubes and so far
                                            > olive oil,
                                            > > > > and sewing machine oil are my favourites.)
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > > apologies if this is also on the net somewhere, or someone
                                            > else
                                            > > > > posted a similar mod or suggestion.
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > > btw, bew record of 42 seconds. (yeah im a newbie)
                                            > > > > >
                                            > > > > > -kyle simmons
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                                          • Timothy Sun
                                            Cubesmith.com ... stickers only cost $1.25 per set. Over thirty people have told me to paint my cube. I didn t listen to a single person because paint feels
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                                              Cubesmith.com ... stickers only cost $1.25 per set. Over thirty people
                                              have told me to paint my cube. I didn't listen to a single person
                                              because paint feels horrible, and it doesn't look nice... ever. No
                                              matter what you do, a computer can do better than you at making solid
                                              colors. Go Cubesmith.

                                              -Tim

                                              --- In speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com, "Billy Gard"
                                              <billygard@...> wrote:
                                              >
                                              > I painted my revenge cube. I took off the stickers and painte with
                                              little jars of model paint, which has an acrylic-like toughness. I see
                                              what you mean about it not looking very good. I guess if I had put
                                              thin tape along all the edges it would have looked fine, as the paint
                                              would form squares much like stickers, rather than covering pretty
                                              much the whole face of the cubie.
                                              >
                                              > As for solving the pocket cube, I found from the "Jeff Conquers the
                                              Cube in 45 Seconds" book about what he calls "correct edges". It is a
                                              clever visual shortcut for corner placement (so that the four sides of
                                              the layer are solid, i.e. correct edges). You have either no correct
                                              edges, one correct edge, or all correct edges. If you have none, just
                                              swap two diagonal corners. If you have one correct edge, swap the two
                                              adjacent corners across from it. That's it. By the way, when doing the
                                              second layer the same way, remember that in 2*2*2 speak, a double
                                              parallel swap is equivalent in effect to a diagonal swap, and a 3-
                                              cycle is equivalent to an adjacent swap.
                                              >
                                              > Billy
                                              >
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