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41569Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Will V-CUBES go out of business?

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  • Tyson Mao
    Jul 1, 2008
      And really, I think they could charge higher.

      You get ripped off every time you pay a dollar for a bottle of water... when
      it's free from the tap.

      On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Frank Morris <ephem825@...> wrote:

      > Stefan rules.
      >
      > --- On Tue, 7/1/08, Tyson Mao <tyson.mao@... <tyson.mao%40gmail.com>>
      > wrote:
      > From: Tyson Mao <tyson.mao@... <tyson.mao%40gmail.com>>
      > Subject: Re: [Speed cubing group] Re: Will V-CUBES go out of business?
      > To: speedsolvingrubikscube@yahoogroups.com<speedsolvingrubikscube%40yahoogroups.com>
      > Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 6:05 AM
      >
      >
      > I was pretty much going to say something along the lines of Stefan, but he
      >
      > said it pretty well. I should probably clarify one part of his post though:
      >
      > Cheers!
      >
      > Dipshit.
      >
      > On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:34 AM, d_funny007 <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
      > wrote:
      >
      > > In addition to what Stefan said, you somehow don't think they deserve
      >
      > > such profits given that they had to spent years inventing these things
      >
      > > to begin with. The engineer work they have put into it initially where
      >
      > > unpaid hours, until the product is on the market. Then there is the
      >
      > > business risk to factor in. So sure, they are "literally extruded from
      >
      > > a machine", but have you even considered the capital required to
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      > > purchase such machines or to create mold of the right quality.
      >
      > >
      >
      > > Clearly this Bart fellow has no clue what goes into something like this.
      >
      > >
      >
      > > I almost forgot... from what I know of Economics (took a couple
      >
      > > classes in college), setting prices on products is usually done from
      >
      > > surveying the market (determining what people are willing to pay at
      >
      > > various quantities), and NOT on what profit margin they want. There
      >
      > > are supply-demand curves to be considered. It then becomes an
      >
      > > "optimization problem" like in calculus. Hence, they where smart in
      >
      > > the bits of surveys they did on us a while back. From even the initial
      >
      > > success of V-Cubes it is clear to me that these guys either know what
      >
      > > they are doing or consulted the right people, and deserve whatever
      >
      > > profits they are making. And if you don't think so then you don't have
      >
      > > much faith in Free Market Capitalism.
      >
      > >
      >
      > > Given these points, it's more likely that most cubers desire a 7x7
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      > > x1000 more than you, not that they don't deserve you business.
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      > >
      >
      > > -Doug
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      > >
      >
      > > --- In speedsolvingrubiksc ube@yahoogroups. com<speedsolvingrubiks
      > cube%40yahoogrou ps.com>,
      >
      > > "Stefan Pochmann"
      >
      > >
      >
      > > <stefan.pochmann@ ...> wrote:
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      > > >
      >
      > > > --- In speedsolvingrubiksc ube@yahoogroups. com<speedsolvingrubiks
      > cube%40yahoogrou ps.com>,
      >
      > > Bart <banaticus@>
      >
      > > > wrote:
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      > > > >
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      > > > > Who cares, I don't buy their products either. ;) Making a x2 or x3
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      > > > > profit, a lot of companies do that. But this is cheap plastic*
      >
      > > > we're
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      > > > > talking about. It's literally extruded from a machine. At $80 a
      >
      > > > pop,
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      > > > > that's got to be like a x1000 markup or something. Maybe only a few
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      > > > > hundred times markup and profit, but still, that's a heck of a
      >
      > > > markup.
      >
      > > > > A company that wants to make that much profit off of me really
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      > > > > doesn't deserve my business. So I'm waiting until the price comes
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      > > > > down to something approaching reasonable.
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > Oh, so you know how to get worldwide patents as well as the
      >
      > > > production machinery for free?
      >
      > > >
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      > > > Dipshit.
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      > > >
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      > > > Stefan
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