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Re: [SPACEMUSIC] Re: What is happening to Internet Radio?

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  • E. Alan Meece
    If musicians send their work to a broadcaster for promotional purposes, their compensation is that promotion; listeners hear their work and some buy it. That s
    Message 1 of 21 , Apr 30 7:51 PM
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      If musicians send their work to a broadcaster for promotional purposes,
      their compensation is that promotion; listeners hear their work and some
      buy it. That's enough. Licensing companies are just making a buck for
      themselves.

      Eric M

      Jim Combs wrote:
      >
      > --- In spacemusic@yahoogroups.com, Clark Wilkins <clark@...> wrote:
      > >
      > > This is exactly how I took Loren's statement as well. Darrell is
      > > running a service that promotes the artist's work* and certainly
      > > should be able to play anything he wants to. And the artist being
      > > played is certainly entitled to a share of the revenue generated.
      > OK.
      > > By my calculation, the artist has gained promotion and their fair
      > > share of the fees. Sorry, Loren, but this seems like a very
      > knee-jerk
      > > position on your part.
      >
      > I think Loren and Clark correctly assume composers/musicians should be
      > paid for their work. Clark, I do not believe a PRO artist can decide
      > if promotion is fair compensation because they have contracted with a
      > PRO (and intellectual property law) to make that determination. The
      > artist doesn't get a say at that point. That is why there are
      > publishing contracts and recording contracts. This stuff is all
      > contractual and legal. It's not interpretive.
      >
      > > > > So basically it's not that you don't mind paying
      > > > > small fees and object to having to pay larger fees,
      > > > > its really you don't want to pay anything at all,
      > > > > at least when it comes to compensating the artist
      > > > > that made the music.
      >
      > I think Darrell is saying his only options are to pay the larger fees
      > or to abandon PRO-affiliated artists (going with CC-affiliated
      > artists), or stop altogether.
      >
      > > > My radio station is a non-commercial, zero-revenue station that I
      > > > created, have worked my hiney off on, and pay for every month out
      > of
      > > > my own pocket - all for the sole reason of trying to promote the
      > > > ambient genre. I don't get a penny out of it. Further, I am an
      > > > ambient artist myself. Now, if you consider me to be some kind of
      > > > greedy radio station owner, I'm sorry but you are mistaken. And
      > quite
      > > > honestly it's pretty offensive to me personally given the blood
      > sweat
      > > > and tears that I've put into this effort, to suggest that I'm
      > being
      > > > selfish by refusing the pay the ridiculous fees the industry has
      > > > created.
      > > >
      > > > Very simply the industry has priced itself out of the net radio
      > > > market. Would you prefer I simply close my doors?
      >
      > I do not. But for your own sanity, I think ultimately you'll need to
      > decide what you "pay out of your own pocket" for. Is it to promote
      > your own music, or promote other musicians, or program music for a
      > listening audience, or to geek out on and exploit internet protocol
      > technology, or to be in community with like-minded individuals, or
      > sell advertising/sponsorships, or find/develop new musical talent,
      > or...
      >
      > There are lots of ways to do the above that do not involve these
      > ridiculous industry fees. AND there are lots of ways to do the above
      > that make these ridiculous industry fees look like chump change.
      > Ultimately, you have to decide how much you can invest, how much it
      > costs, and how much you receive to determine if it is "worth it."
      > Starving for ones art is old hat. How often have you seen someone
      > starve for business?
      >
      > -Jim
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