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  • Wolf
    I used this Appnote for the MicroWire Interface: http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/AppNotes/01023A.pdf Here is the content of the 93LC66 (512 byte
    Message 1 of 7 , Apr 3 5:23 PM
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      I used this Appnote for the MicroWire Interface:
      http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/AppNotes/01023A.pdf

      Here is the content of the 93LC66 (512 byte MicroWire EEPROM) in 2 pages:

      Note: This is from my spare charger for my truck, so it is programmed for
      144V... After programming the EEPROM, you will need to run NLG4 to
      reprogram it for 156V.

      Page1:
      Symbol Name Value Hex
      data "..."
      [0] '.' 0xFF
      [1] '.' 0xFF
      [2] '.' 0xFF
      [3] '.' 0xFF
      [4] '.' 0x06
      [5] '.' 0xA8
      [6] '>' 0x3E
      [7] '.' 0xE2
      [8] '.' 0xFF
      [9] '.' 0xFF
      [10] '.' 0xFF
      [11] '.' 0xFF
      [12] '.' 0xFF
      [13] '.' 0xFF
      [14] '.' 0xFF
      [15] '.' 0xFF
      [16] '.' 0xFF
      [17] '.' 0xFF
      [18] '.' 0xFF
      [19] '.' 0xFF
      [20] '.' 0xFF
      [21] '.' 0xFF
      [22] '.' 0xFF
      [23] '.' 0xFF
      [24] '.' 0xFF
      [25] '.' 0xFF
      [26] '.' 0xFF
      [27] '.' 0xFF
      [28] '.' 0xFF
      [29] '.' 0xFF
      [30] '.' 0xFF
      [31] '.' 0xFF
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      [88] '.' 0x88
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      [254] '@' 0x40
      [255] '.' 0x00

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      On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 7:23 PM, geo_homsy2 <geo.homsy@...> wrote:

      > **
      >
      >
      > Hi all-
      >
      > I've been using my Force as a daily driver for three months now; got
      > almost 5000 miles on the new lithium pack! :)
      >
      > Here's the rub- My NLG4 is acting VERY weird and will not charge the
      > batteries. It claims the battery voltage is EXACTLY DOUBLE what the battery
      > voltage actually is. Looks like a processor or configuration issue. I have
      > a very bad suspicion that it suffered a brain hemorrhage and now thinks it
      > is an NLG414, instead of an NLG412.
      >
      > Additional clues: It has forgotten its serial number, and its date of
      > manufacture. I expect it may have dropped the contents of the serial EEPROM
      > on the processor board.
      >
      > I've been working on it for several days now, with no results.
      >
      > So, first question: Anyone have the correct EEPROM image? Or a spare
      > processor board I can swap in? Or a spare processor board I can read the
      > EEPROM image off?
      >
      > I'm desperate here, since I have no vehicle, I've had to get a rental car.
      >
      > So, second question: Does anyone have an extra NLG4, working or
      > nonworking, to beg, borrow, or buy? If borrowed, it will obviously be
      > returned when I get mine fixed.
      >
      > Please please PLEASE help if you can.
      >
      > Yours,
      >
      > //Geo
      > 99 Force
      >
      >
      >



      --
      Wolf
      *wags his tail*
      www.wolftronix.com


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    • Newton Hausermann
      I have an elcon for the project i m working on and they had good service, i can t say how good as we have yet to have an issue with it. I called them up, took
      Message 2 of 7 , Apr 3 9:54 PM
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        I have an elcon for the project i'm working on and they had good service, i
        can't say how good as we have yet to have an issue with it. I called them
        up, took a few tries to get through to them (it's a small company) I was
        able to get the charger i wanted ordered and programmed within 10 minuets,
        it arrived well packaged and un damaged. The LED is just that... for
        changing the program/confirming your settings, it does it's job. For the $
        2 or 3 LED's or usb access would've been nice but I understand the hassel
        that is. I'm saying this from the perspective that $60 RC car chargers can
        do this. We don't have a ton of cycles on the charger, as were almost done
        with one vehicle and the other is very far out of balance so were charging
        it painfully slow with a DC powersupply because the eclon hits it with so
        much power the voltage on the high cells goes through the roof and the BMS
        kicks off the charger, brings the highs down within limit and then it kicks
        it off within minuets. No fault of the elcon unit though, as thats the
        charge curve we picked out and if the pack was in good shape I'm sure it
        would preform as it should. So the elcon is a good unit based off of my
        initial and limited use of it.

        Newton




        On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 9:35 PM, <theoldcars@...> wrote:

        > **
        >
        >
        > I think sending to Wolf is the best or maybe the only option to fix your
        > charger.
        >
        > The other would be to replace it.
        >
        > I have been hearing a lot of good feedback on the ElCon chargers and their
        > pricing seems reasonable.
        >
        > I have no association with ElCon but if I was going to buy a charger I
        > think it would be the one. Its also an isolated charger which is a plus.
        >
        > Curious has anyone bought a ElCon?
        >
        > Don Blazer
        >
        >
        > In a message dated 4/2/2013 7:34:50 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
        > ev@... writes:
        >
        > CONTACT WOLF ON THIS LIST HE MAY BE ABLE TO HELP YOU WITH A BD OR REPAIR
        >
        > ----------------------------------------
        > From: "paul dove" <_dovepa@..._ (mailto:dovepa@...) >
        >
        > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 5:05 PM
        > To: _solectria_ev@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:solectria_ev@yahoogroups.com)
        > Subject: Re: [solectria_ev] HELP! Any NLG4's for sale or loan??
        >
        > Won't it let you charge manually like in section 5.1, 6.6 and 6.7?
        >
        > Pins 11 and 12 to +12 volts
        > Pin 18 ground
        > Pin 9 +12 volts
        > Pin 10 ground
        >
        > ________________________________
        > From: geo_homsy2 <_geo.homsy@..._ (mailto:geo.homsy@...) >
        > To: _solectria_ev@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:solectria_ev@yahoogroups.com)
        > Sent: Sun, March 31, 2013 7:23:40 PM
        > Subject: [solectria_ev] HELP! Any NLG4's for sale or loan??
        >
        > Hi all-
        >
        > I've been using my Force as a daily driver for three months now; got
        > almost 5000
        > miles on the new lithium pack! :)
        >
        > Here's the rub- My NLG4 is acting VERY weird and will not charge the
        > batteries.
        > It claims the battery voltage is EXACTLY DOUBLE what the battery voltage
        > actually is. Looks like a processor or configuration issue. I have a very
        > bad
        > suspicion that it suffered a brain hemorrhage and now thinks it is an
        > NLG414,
        > instead of an NLG412.
        >
        > Additional clues: It has forgotten its serial number, and its date of
        > manufacture. I expect it may have dropped the contents of the serial
        > EEPROM on
        > the processor board.
        >
        > I've been working on it for several days now, with no results.
        >
        > So, first question: Anyone have the correct EEPROM image? Or a spare
        > processor
        > board I can swap in? Or a spare processor board I can read the EEPROM
        > image
        > off?
        >
        > I'm desperate here, since I have no vehicle, I've had to get a rental car.
        >
        > So, second question: Does anyone have an extra NLG4, working or
        > nonworking, to
        > beg, borrow, or buy? If borrowed, it will obviously be returned when I get
        > mine
        > fixed.
        >
        > Please please PLEASE help if you can.
        >
        > Yours,
        >
        > //Geo
        > 99 Force
        >
        > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        >
        >
        >


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