group subscription : getting in, bouncing email-being dropped
- This message goes to the groups I support, for the
subscribed, and the lurking that are trying to.
A few people are having trouble reading and following
the petition instructions, thus their pending
subscription is being dropped.
If you hear of a person complaining that they did not
get in, I suggest that you take them aside and hold
their hand through the process. The petition will
regularly change (rearranged wording) to foil
SPAMMERs, so always use the current one sent out
upon new subscriptions (don't use an old copy).
90% of the petitions I send out are not responded to,
and after days pass, their pending subscriptions are
automatically dropped. They can try again a few times
to get it right.
The petition method foils SPAMMERs by making the
subscriber use their brain. Those that do not, have
trouble. The same petition is used for all of my
discussion groups. Complaints are from people trying
to join the RAV4 EV group, and to a much lesser
degree the Civic Hybrid group.
*** Bouncing email addresses
Yahoo groups records the number of email bounces (this when
the email message can't get through to you). I see them and
they look like: [I edited the personal stuff out for privacy]
smalcolm@... Hard Bouncing ( History ) 12/20/2002
veryveryshy1@... Hard Bouncing ( History ) 12/12/2002
evchels@... Soft Bouncing ( History ) 12/20/2002
I do not have control over your email host that bounces
email (its your email). At some point, the number of bounces
dumps your subscription. You can of course subscribe again,
but it is likely to dump you again, because your email is
bouncing. It might be better to find an email host that
does not bounce. There are plenty of good web email hosts
out there that are free, or for a fee (them not me).
Again, I do not have control over your email host bouncing
email. But, I wanted to you all to know that bouncing email
will cause your subscription to drop (perhaps you might
look at those that have not been dropped as having the
better email hosts?). The ratio of bouncing email
addresses to the number of members is about 1% (5
addresses out of 500 subscribers).
Yahoo groups status
Yahoo runs pretty good considering it is a huge beast, but
there are times when ... it ... slows ... d o w n
You can tell when this happens by the number of POSTs are
fewer, or that the POST you sent does not so up on the
archive for a while (.5 hour or longer).
I suffer from the same problem that you all do (we are in
this together, no higher priority for me). When I send
out newswire POSTs, it is frustrating to have them
'get lost' or have the system eat them.
So, I archive my text encase this happens. For you all,
if it is a short and sweet POST, it is probably easier
to type another one later when the system constipation
is over. But it was a lengthy, long detailed POST, during
slow times, you might want to save a copy encase it does
not go through (that saves your thoughts so you do not
lose them, and minimizes your frustration).
Lastly, so far all the groups seem to be working as intended:
as a driver resource for improved networking, resolving
issues specifically with their vehicles.
If SPAMMERs get through and mark up the group, please let me
know. I will queue up to clean up their mess, remove them
and review the petition process to improve to keep them out
(so far it has been working).
Thank you for keeping your group clean and focused :-)
. EV List Editor & RE newswires
. (originator of the above ASCII art)
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