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9925Re: [solectria_ev] Re: Cruise Control

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  • russell_fauver@yahoo.com
    Jul 10, 2014

      Thanks Wolf. Put a hundred and sixty miles on my Force yesterday so having this cruise control really helped. I did catch myself hitting the brake before pressing the button though.

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      From: Wolf wolf@... [solectria_ev] <solectria_ev@yahoogroups.com>;
      To: solectria_ev@yahoogroups.com <solectria_ev@yahoogroups.com>;
      Subject: Re: [solectria_ev] Re: Cruise Control
      Sent: Thu, Jul 10, 2014 5:18:46 PM

      On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Russell Fauver russell_fauver@... [solectria_ev] <solectria_ev@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

      looks simple enough, though I've never used an optocoupler. Looking around the web I am overwhelmed at the number and variety of those creatures. Could I trouble you to recommend a good optocoupler and relay that would be suitable for this? 


      On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 7:38 PM, "Wolf wolf@... [solectria_ev]" <solectria_ev@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

      See the following:

      It implements:
      IF (Cruise_State = ON) AND (Brake = PRESSED) 
      THEN Cruise_Button = PRESS

      You will need the following:
      12V SPST relay
      Normally open push button

      Optocoupler transistor should be rated for the peak relay pull-in current, and 36V or more.
      Diode should be rated at 100V or more, it protects the Optocoupler transistor from the inductive flyback when the transistor turns off.

      How it works:
      1. Start driving.
      2. When you get to your desired speed, press the cruise button.
      3. This will turn on the "cruise LED" and the transistor in the optocoupler.
      4. Then when you tap, or press the brake pedal, the relay will act like you pressing the cruise button again, thus disabling cruise.
      5. The "cruise LED" will then go off, and the transistor in the optocoupler turns off, which turns disables the relay.
      6. Go back to step 1. :)

      This can be implemented different ways, but this is the safest and preserves voltage and noise isolation between the 12V car system, and the 156V motor controller system.

      If you want to implement the the speed up / down buttons shown in the AMC users manual, this circuit will still work, just insert it across the cruise enable / disable button.

      On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Russell Fauver russell_fauver@... [solectria_ev] <solectria_ev@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
      I would like to have it disconnect when I step on the brake. can you explain what needs to happen with the relay and number 20? 

      On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 1:22 PM, "Wolf wolf@... [solectria_ev]" <solectria_ev@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

      No problem. :)
      I highly recommend adding in the circuit to disable cruise when you tap the brakes.
      Also, when in cruise, the drive can command full throttle, limited by the power setting.
      On Jul 8, 2014 11:29 AM, "Russell Fauver russell_fauver@... [solectria_ev]" <solectria_ev@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
      Yes! that did it!

      thanks for the help.

      On Monday, July 7, 2014 6:12 PM, "Wolf wolf@... [solectria_ev]" <solectria_ev@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

      Connect pins 4 and 17 together.
      Then n.o. push button from them to pin 1.
      On Jul 7, 2014 3:58 PM, "Russell Fauver russell_fauver@... [solectria_ev]" <solectria_ev@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
      ok, so I connected pin 4 to 15 and put a n.o. push button switch between them and pin 1. Got up to 35 and pushed the button, nothing happened. Took it to 45 and pressed it again, nuttin. There's a little black box under the steering column that the 25 pin cable connects to, do I need to do anything with that? 

      On Sunday, July 6, 2014 3:17 PM, "Wolf wolf@... [solectria_ev]" <solectria_ev@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

      Pin 17 for cruise (speed down).
      The copy I have shows pin 15 for the star switch.
      Pin 10 to pin 1 goes to the star/delta contactor.
      Back in 92 we built a solar car that used the star/delta mode with a Solectria BLS8 motor.
      We had it geared real high, so you needed the star mode to get enough torque to start moving or go up hills, then shifted to delta once you got above 30MPH.
      On Jul 6, 2014 8:55 AM, "mtoussaint17799@... [solectria_ev]" <solectria_ev@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
      Is it PIN 15 or 17 ? In the AMC manual, I see PIN 4 & 17 for the tempomat function and there seem to be an error for the start/delta switch (pin 16 in the usermanual should be pin 15 ?)

      Anyone tried to install a big star/delta switch in their Solectria ?

      *wags his tail*

      *wags his tail*

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