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  • John Rabson
    My son suggests Try running Linux as a guest OS in VirtualBox (hosted on the Mac). I canÆt make any promises, however.ö 73 John F5VLF ... My son suggests
    Message 1 of 22 , Apr 23, 2014
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      My son suggests "Try running Linux as a guest OS in VirtualBox (hosted on the Mac). I can’t make any promises, however.”

      73
      John F5VLF

      From: Jean-Paul Louis <louijp@...>
      Subject: Re: [softrock40] quisk starting to work...
      Date: 21 April 2014 05:14:36 CEST

      Hi Sid,
      I have been lurking into this group for several years, and I see how people
      refers to you as the Quisk expert for Linux builds.
      I am trying to build Quisk not on Linux, but on Mac OS X.
      Do you know if anybody has successfully built quick on OS X?
      My builds failed because I do not have ALSA on a Mac, but quick is supposed
      to work with port audio which is available on the Mac.
      I posted my question on the N2ADR group as N2AR is supposedly the one who wrote
      quisk, but all my posts were ignored.
      I just need to know what to change to use portaudio, as right now every build complains
      about a missing alas header.


      73 de

      Jean-Paul
      AC9GH @ EN61vr99
      louijp   at   yahoo   dot  com

    • Jean-Paul Louis
      Thanks John. I know that I can compile and build it on Linux. I have two Linux VMs (Parallels 9 for Desktop), one running Ubuntu 13.04, and another with Debian
      Message 2 of 22 , Apr 24, 2014
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        Thanks John.
         I know that I can compile and build it on Linux. I have two Linux VMs (Parallels 9 for Desktop), one running Ubuntu 13.04, and another with Debian 7.
        For me, the real challenge is to build it on the native OS.

        I have now to assume that nobody has yet succeeded to build on OS X, and that I am on my own.

        73 de Jean-Paul (AC9GH, ex F5KT)


        On Apr 24, 2014, at 2:43 AM, John Rabson <john.rabson07@...> wrote:

        My son suggests "Try running Linux as a guest OS in VirtualBox (hosted on the Mac). I can’t make any promises, however.”

        73
        John F5VLF

        From: Jean-Paul Louis <louijp@...>
        Subject: Re: [softrock40] quisk starting to work...
        Date: 21 April 2014 05:14:36 CEST

        Hi Sid,
        I have been lurking into this group for several years, and I see how people
        refers to you as the Quisk expert for Linux builds.
        I am trying to build Quisk not on Linux, but on Mac OS X.
        Do you know if anybody has successfully built quick on OS X?
        My builds failed because I do not have ALSA on a Mac, but quick is supposed
        to work with port audio which is available on the Mac.
        I posted my question on the N2ADR group as N2AR is supposedly the one who wrote
        quisk, but all my posts were ignored.
        I just need to know what to change to use portaudio, as right now every build complains
        about a missing alas header.


        73 de

        Jean-Paul
        AC9GH @ EN61vr99
        louijp   at   yahoo   dot  com


      • Sid Boyce
        Looks that way Jean-Paul, OSX has hardly ever raised its head on SDR. The only ones I have come across is on the opehpsdr forum, JavaSDR for HPSDR and MacSDR
        Message 3 of 22 , Apr 24, 2014
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          Looks that way Jean-Paul,
          OSX has hardly ever raised its head on SDR.

          The only ones I have come across is on the opehpsdr forum, JavaSDR for HPSDR and MacSDR (link broken), both for HPSDR/SDR100.

          SDRX by and for RFSpace SDR's.

          There is http://fyngyrz.com/?tag=cutesdr which seems to be the only one that mentions Softrock support on OSX.
          73 ... Sid.

          On 24/04/14 19:38, Jean-Paul Louis wrote:
          Thanks John.
           I know that I can compile and build it on Linux. I have two Linux VMs (Parallels 9 for Desktop), one running Ubuntu 13.04, and another with Debian 7.
          For me, the real challenge is to build it on the native OS.

          I have now to assume that nobody has yet succeeded to build on OS X, and that I am on my own.

          73 de Jean-Paul (AC9GH, ex F5KT)


          On Apr 24, 2014, at 2:43 AM, John Rabson <john.rabson07@...> wrote:

          My son suggests "Try running Linux as a guest OS in VirtualBox (hosted on the Mac). I can’t make any promises, however.”

          73
          John F5VLF

          From: Jean-Paul Louis <louijp@...>
          Subject: Re: [softrock40] quisk starting to work...
          Date: 21 April 2014 05:14:36 CEST

          Hi Sid,
          I have been lurking into this group for several years, and I see how people
          refers to you as the Quisk expert for Linux builds.
          I am trying to build Quisk not on Linux, but on Mac OS X.
          Do you know if anybody has successfully built quick on OS X?
          My builds failed because I do not have ALSA on a Mac, but quick is supposed
          to work with port audio which is available on the Mac.
          I posted my question on the N2ADR group as N2AR is supposedly the one who wrote
          quisk, but all my posts were ignored.
          I just need to know what to change to use portaudio, as right now every build complains
          about a missing alas header.


          73 de

          Jean-Paul
          AC9GH @ EN61vr99
          louijp   at   yahoo   dot  com




          -- 
          Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
          Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
          Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
          Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
          
        • Jean-Paul Louis
          Hi Syd, ThatÆs what I found out too. It looks like Ham Radio and Mac OS X are in parallel universes with very little interaction. So I will keep searching,
          Message 4 of 22 , Apr 24, 2014
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            Hi Syd,

            That’s what I found out too. It looks like Ham Radio and Mac OS X are in parallel universes with very little interaction.
            So I will keep searching, and playing with it, but use a VM running Linux or Windows until I find a solution that I will support.

            Being retired, I have some time that I can spare to this quest.

            73 de Jean-Paul (AC9GH)


            On Apr 24, 2014, at 11:26 PM, Sid Boyce <sboyce@...> wrote:


            Looks that way Jean-Paul,
            OSX has hardly ever raised its head on SDR.

            The only ones I have come across is on the opehpsdr forum, JavaSDR for HPSDR and MacSDR (link broken), both for HPSDR/SDR100.

            SDRX by and for RFSpace SDR's.

            There is http://fyngyrz.com/?tag=cutesdr which seems to be the only one that mentions Softrock support on OSX.
            73 ... Sid.

            On 24/04/14 19:38, Jean-Paul Louis wrote:
            Thanks John.
             I know that I can compile and build it on Linux. I have two Linux VMs (Parallels 9 for Desktop), one running Ubuntu 13.04, and another with Debian 7.
            For me, the real challenge is to build it on the native OS.

            I have now to assume that nobody has yet succeeded to build on OS X, and that I am on my own.

            73 de Jean-Paul (AC9GH, ex F5KT)


            On Apr 24, 2014, at 2:43 AM, John Rabson <john.rabson07@...> wrote:

            My son suggests "Try running Linux as a guest OS in VirtualBox (hosted on the Mac). I can’t make any promises, however.”

            73
            John F5VLF

            From: Jean-Paul Louis <louijp@...>
            Subject: Re: [softrock40] quisk starting to work...
            Date: 21 April 2014 05:14:36 CEST

            Hi Sid,
            I have been lurking into this group for several years, and I see how people
            refers to you as the Quisk expert for Linux builds.
            I am trying to build Quisk not on Linux, but on Mac OS X.
            Do you know if anybody has successfully built quick on OS X?
            My builds failed because I do not have ALSA on a Mac, but quick is supposed
            to work with port audio which is available on the Mac.
            I posted my question on the N2ADR group as N2AR is supposedly the one who wrote
            quisk, but all my posts were ignored.
            I just need to know what to change to use portaudio, as right now every build complains
            about a missing alas header.


            73 de

            Jean-Paul
            AC9GH @ EN61vr99
            louijp   at   yahoo   dot  com




            -- 
            Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
            Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
            Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
            Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
            


          • Ross Sanders
            Thought I d put in my 2c worth on this one. FLdigi has a OS-X port of it s software suite. You can find it on http://w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html and I do know you
            Message 5 of 22 , Apr 24, 2014
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              Thought I'd put in my 2c worth on this one.  FLdigi has a OS-X port of it's software suite.  You can find it on http://w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html and I do know you can use hamlib to support Softrock radios.  There is an OS-X port for hamlib it says on the development website.  I personally use fldigi for my HTX-10, no rig control of course, but I like the program itself even compared to the large number of offerings on Windows.  I also use it on Windows.  I don't have any personal experience with OS-X but as a general thing, if it works on unix-like systems it often will work on OS-X.

              Ross
              KD0VHN


              On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Jean-Paul Louis <louijp@...> wrote:
               

              Hi Syd,


              That’s what I found out too. It looks like Ham Radio and Mac OS X are in parallel universes with very little interaction.
              So I will keep searching, and playing with it, but use a VM running Linux or Windows until I find a solution that I will support.

              Being retired, I have some time that I can spare to this quest.

              73 de Jean-Paul (AC9GH)


              On Apr 24, 2014, at 11:26 PM, Sid Boyce <sboyce@...> wrote:


              Looks that way Jean-Paul,
              OSX has hardly ever raised its head on SDR.

              The only ones I have come across is on the opehpsdr forum, JavaSDR for HPSDR and MacSDR (link broken), both for HPSDR/SDR100.

              SDRX by and for RFSpace SDR's.

              There is http://fyngyrz.com/?tag=cutesdr which seems to be the only one that mentions Softrock support on OSX.
              73 ... Sid.

              On 24/04/14 19:38, Jean-Paul Louis wrote:
              Thanks John.
               I know that I can compile and build it on Linux. I have two Linux VMs (Parallels 9 for Desktop), one running Ubuntu 13.04, and another with Debian 7.
              For me, the real challenge is to build it on the native OS.

              I have now to assume that nobody has yet succeeded to build on OS X, and that I am on my own.

              73 de Jean-Paul (AC9GH, ex F5KT)


              On Apr 24, 2014, at 2:43 AM, John Rabson <john.rabson07@...> wrote:

              My son suggests "Try running Linux as a guest OS in VirtualBox (hosted on the Mac). I can’t make any promises, however.”

              73
              John F5VLF

              From: Jean-Paul Louis <louijp@...>
              Subject: Re: [softrock40] quisk starting to work...
              Date: 21 April 2014 05:14:36 CEST

              Hi Sid,
              I have been lurking into this group for several years, and I see how people
              refers to you as the Quisk expert for Linux builds.
              I am trying to build Quisk not on Linux, but on Mac OS X.
              Do you know if anybody has successfully built quick on OS X?
              My builds failed because I do not have ALSA on a Mac, but quick is supposed
              to work with port audio which is available on the Mac.
              I posted my question on the N2ADR group as N2AR is supposedly the one who wrote
              quisk, but all my posts were ignored.
              I just need to know what to change to use portaudio, as right now every build complains
              about a missing alas header.


              73 de

              Jean-Paul
              AC9GH @ EN61vr99
              louijp   at   yahoo   dot  com




              -- 
              Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
              Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
              Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
              Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
              



            • Bill Cromwell
              Hi Ross, What version of fldigi are you using. I ve been running it for a while and I have been completely unaware it would work with I-Q radios (SDR). Did I
              Message 6 of 22 , Apr 25, 2014
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                Hi Ross,

                What version of fldigi are you using. I've been running it for a while
                and I have been completely unaware it would work with I-Q radios (SDR).
                Did I overlook something? Maybe there is a config setting in a later
                version. I can't find anything in the one that is running on my computer
                now.

                73,

                Bill KU8H



                On 04/25/2014 02:14 AM, Ross Sanders wrote:
                > Thought I'd put in my 2c worth on this one. FLdigi has a OS-X port of
                > it's software suite. You can find it on http://w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
                > and I do know you can use hamlib to support Softrock radios. There is
                > an OS-X port for hamlib it says on the development website. I
                > personally use fldigi for my HTX-10, no rig control of course, but I
                > like the program itself even compared to the large number of offerings
                > on Windows. I also use it on Windows. I don't have any personal
                > experience with OS-X but as a general thing, if it works on unix-like
                > systems it often will work on OS-X.
                >
                > Ross
                > KD0VHN
                >
              • Sid Boyce
                lancelot@slipstream: fldigi --version fldigi 3.21.75 I built in in December. 73 ... Sid. ... -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
                Message 7 of 22 , Apr 25, 2014
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                lancelot@slipstream:> fldigi --version
                fldigi 3.21.75

                I built in in December.
                73 ... Sid.

                On 25/04/14 14:34, Bill Cromwell wrote:
                 

                Hi Ross,

                What version of fldigi are you using. I've been running it for a while
                and I have been completely unaware it would work with I-Q radios (SDR).
                Did I overlook something? Maybe there is a config setting in a later
                version. I can't find anything in the one that is running on my computer
                now.

                73,

                Bill KU8H

                On 04/25/2014 02:14 AM, Ross Sanders wrote:
                > Thought I'd put in my 2c worth on this one. FLdigi has a OS-X port of
                > it's software suite. You can find it on http://w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
                > and I do know you can use hamlib to support Softrock radios. There is
                > an OS-X port for hamlib it says on the development website. I
                > personally use fldigi for my HTX-10, no rig control of course, but I
                > like the program itself even compared to the large number of offerings
                > on Windows. I also use it on Windows. I don't have any personal
                > experience with OS-X but as a general thing, if it works on unix-like
                > systems it often will work on OS-X.
                >
                > Ross
                > KD0VHN
                >



                -- 
                Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
                Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
                Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
                Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
                
              • Sid Boyce
                It s a poor showing. There are many hams using OSX but very few seem interested in SDR. 73 ... Sid. ... -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed
                Message 8 of 22 , Apr 25, 2014
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                  It's a poor showing. There are many hams using OSX but very few seem interested in SDR.
                  73 ... Sid.

                  On 25/04/14 04:42, Jean-Paul Louis wrote:
                   

                  Hi Syd,


                  That’s what I found out too. It looks like Ham Radio and Mac OS X are in parallel universes with very little interaction.
                  So I will keep searching, and playing with it, but use a VM running Linux or Windows until I find a solution that I will support.

                  Being retired, I have some time that I can spare to this quest.

                  73 de Jean-Paul (AC9GH)


                  On Apr 24, 2014, at 11:26 PM, Sid Boyce <sboyce@...> wrote:


                  Looks that way Jean-Paul,
                  OSX has hardly ever raised its head on SDR.

                  The only ones I have come across is on the opehpsdr forum, JavaSDR for HPSDR and MacSDR (link broken), both for HPSDR/SDR100.

                  SDRX by and for RFSpace SDR's.

                  There is http://fyngyrz.com/?tag=cutesdr which seems to be the only one that mentions Softrock support on OSX.
                  73 ... Sid.

                  On 24/04/14 19:38, Jean-Paul Louis wrote:
                  Thanks John.
                   I know that I can compile and build it on Linux. I have two Linux VMs (Parallels 9 for Desktop), one running Ubuntu 13.04, and another with Debian 7.
                  For me, the real challenge is to build it on the native OS.

                  I have now to assume that nobody has yet succeeded to build on OS X, and that I am on my own.

                  73 de Jean-Paul (AC9GH, ex F5KT)


                  On Apr 24, 2014, at 2:43 AM, John Rabson <john.rabson07@...> wrote:

                  My son suggests "Try running Linux as a guest OS in VirtualBox (hosted on the Mac). I can’t make any promises, however.”

                  73
                  John F5VLF

                  From: Jean-Paul Louis <louijp@...>
                  Subject: Re: [softrock40] quisk starting to work...
                  Date: 21 April 2014 05:14:36 CEST

                  Hi Sid,
                  I have been lurking into this group for several years, and I see how people
                  refers to you as the Quisk expert for Linux builds.
                  I am trying to build Quisk not on Linux, but on Mac OS X.
                  Do you know if anybody has successfully built quick on OS X?
                  My builds failed because I do not have ALSA on a Mac, but quick is supposed
                  to work with port audio which is available on the Mac.
                  I posted my question on the N2ADR group as N2AR is supposedly the one who wrote
                  quisk, but all my posts were ignored.
                  I just need to know what to change to use portaudio, as right now every build complains
                  about a missing alas header.


                  73 de

                  Jean-Paul
                  AC9GH @ EN61vr99
                  louijp   at   yahoo   dot  com




                  -- 
                  Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
                  Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
                  Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
                  Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
                  




                -- 
                Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
                Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
                Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
                Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
                
              • Bill Cromwell
                ... Thanks Sid, Yours is sightly newer than mine. I have been unable to find the setup options or other config for fldigi to take I&Q input. A pointer would be
                Message 9 of 22 , Apr 25, 2014
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                  On 04/25/2014 12:02 PM, Sid Boyce wrote:
                  > [Attachment(s) <#TopText> from Sid Boyce included below]
                  >
                  > lancelot@slipstream:> fldigi --version
                  > fldigi 3.21.75
                  >
                  > I built in in December.
                  > 73 ... Sid.
                  >
                  Thanks Sid,

                  Yours is sightly newer than mine. I have been unable to find the setup
                  options or other config for fldigi to take I&Q input. A pointer would be
                  helpful.

                  73,

                  Bill KU8H
                • wolffire_fl
                  Yes, basically what Sid sent. The current version of FLdigi with an up-to-date hamlib works just fine for SDR. Or, if you re feeling adventurous, there s
                  Message 10 of 22 , Apr 25, 2014
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                    Yes, basically what Sid sent.  The current version of FLdigi with an up-to-date hamlib works just fine for SDR.  Or, if you're feeling adventurous, there's always GNURadio!

                    Ross
                    KD0VHN
                  • Simon Thompson
                    I am. I use DSP Radio with my Softrock RXTX and Ensemble; I use GQRX with my RTL dongle and Nooelec upconverter. I also use ISDR with my Softrock Lite on my
                    Message 11 of 22 , Apr 25, 2014
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                      I am. I use DSP Radio with my Softrock RXTX and Ensemble; I use GQRX with my RTL dongle and Nooelec upconverter. I also use ISDR with my Softrock Lite on my Ipad; works like a hot damn.

                      On Friday, April 25, 2014, Sid Boyce <sboyce@...> wrote:
                       

                      It's a poor showing. There are many hams using OSX but very few seem interested in SDR.
                      73 ... Sid.

                      On 25/04/14 04:42, Jean-Paul Louis wrote:
                       

                      Hi Syd,


                      That’s what I found out too. It looks like Ham Radio and Mac OS X are in parallel universes with very little interaction.
                      So I will keep searching, and playing with it, but use a VM running Linux or Windows until I find a solution that I will support.

                      Being retired, I have some time that I can spare to this quest.

                      73 de Jean-Paul (AC9GH)


                      On Apr 24, 2014, at 11:26 PM, Sid Boyce <sboyce@...> wrote:


                      Looks that way Jean-Paul,
                      OSX has hardly ever raised its head on SDR.

                      The only ones I have come across is on the opehpsdr forum, JavaSDR for HPSDR and MacSDR (link broken), both for HPSDR/SDR100.

                      SDRX by and for RFSpace SDR's.

                      There is http://fyngyrz.com/?tag=cutesdr which seems to be the only one that mentions Softrock support on OSX.
                      73 ... Sid.

                      On 24/04/14 19:38, Jean-Paul Louis wrote:
                      Thanks John.
                       I know that I can compile and build it on Linux. I have two Linux VMs (Parallels 9 for Desktop), one running Ubuntu 13.04, and another with Debian 7.
                      For me, the real challenge is to build it on the native OS.

                      I have now to assume that nobody has yet succeeded to build on OS X, and that I am on my own.

                      73 de Jean-Paul (AC9GH, ex F5KT)


                      On Apr 24, 2014, at 2:43 AM, John Rabson <john.rabson07@...> wrote:

                      My son suggests "Try running Linux as a guest OS in VirtualBox (hosted on the Mac). I can’t make any promises, however.”

                      73
                      John F5VLF

                    • Simon Thompson
                      I also thought this worked on audio signals and not I/Q signals.
                      Message 12 of 22 , Apr 25, 2014
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                        I also thought this worked on audio signals and not I/Q signals.

                        On Friday, April 25, 2014, Sid Boyce <sboyce@...> wrote:
                         
                        [Attachment(s) from Sid Boyce included below]

                        lancelot@slipstream:> fldigi --version
                        fldigi 3.21.75

                        I built in in December.
                        73 ... Sid.

                        On 25/04/14 14:34, Bill Cromwell wrote:
                         

                        Hi Ross,

                        What version of fldigi are you using. I've been running it for a while
                        and I have been completely unaware it would work with I-Q radios (SDR).
                        Did I overlook something? Maybe there is a config setting in a later
                        version. I can't find anything in the one that is running on my computer
                        now.

                        73,

                        Bill KU8H

                        On 04/25/2014 02:14 AM, Ross Sanders wrote:
                        > Thought I'd put in my 2c worth on this one. FLdigi has a OS-X port of
                        > it's software suite. You can find it on http://w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
                        > and I do know you can use hamlib to support Softrock radios. There is
                        > an OS-X port for hamlib it says on the development website. I
                        > personally use fldigi for my HTX-10, no rig control of course, but I
                        > like the program itself even compared to the large number of offerings
                        > on Windows. I also use it on Windows. I don't have any personal
                        > experience with OS-X but as a general thing, if it works on unix-like
                        > systems it often will work on OS-X.
                        >
                        > Ross
                        > KD0VHN
                        >



                        -- 
                        Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
                        Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
                        Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
                        Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
                        

                      • Simon Thompson
                        I think GQRX might be based on GNURadio.
                        Message 13 of 22 , Apr 25, 2014
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                          I think GQRX might be based on GNURadio.

                          On Friday, April 25, 2014, <ross.stormcrow@...> wrote:
                           

                          Yes, basically what Sid sent.  The current version of FLdigi with an up-to-date hamlib works just fine for SDR.  Or, if you're feeling adventurous, there's always GNURadio!

                          Ross
                          KD0VHN

                        • Bill Cromwell
                          Hi, I already have Quisk working to my advantage but I am having a look at GNURadio, too. I like using fldigi and will continue using it but I suspect that my
                          Message 14 of 22 , Apr 25, 2014
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                            Hi,

                            I already have Quisk working to my advantage but I am having a look at
                            GNURadio, too. I like using fldigi and will continue using it but I
                            suspect that my questions have been misinterpretted and the answers may
                            be wrong because they are answers to the wrong questions. So far I have
                            been unable to find the place in any of the help or changelogs between
                            version about how to configure fldigi to directly accept the Q and the I
                            inputs from a receiver or to output the Q and the I signals to a
                            transmitter from fldigi. I haven't finished with the "manual" for the
                            latest version but so far I haven't seen it.

                            I know this thread was hijacked part way through and some of the replies
                            are to a different question from a different list member. I'll try to
                            clarify my own questions later and post them here with a modified
                            subject line. Some of us have been talking about apples (no pun
                            intended) and some of us talking about raspberries (maybe).

                            My observation today was startling in that I seemed easily to copy some
                            incoming CW with the plain (no I&Q) audio from my antique Kenwood
                            through quisk while at the same time I could NOT even hear it through
                            the Kenwood's speaker! I have to investigate that further. I know where
                            zero with my BFO is on the quisk spectrum screen and the one signal that
                            startled me should have been at 550 Hz (my personal preference) in the
                            radio speaker (bypassing quisk). There was nothing but the band noise
                            from the speaker. I'll be following up on that too.

                            73,

                            Bill KU8H

                            On 04/25/2014 03:42 PM, Simon Thompson wrote:
                            >
                            > I think GQRX might be based on GNURadio.
                            >
                            > On Friday, April 25, 2014, <ross.stormcrow@...
                            > <mailto:ross.stormcrow@...>> wrote:
                            >
                            > Yes, basically what Sid sent. The current version of FLdigi with
                            > an up-to-date hamlib works just fine for SDR. Or, if you're
                            > feeling adventurous, there's always GNURadio!
                            >
                            > Ross
                            > KD0VHN
                            >
                            >
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                          • Sid Boyce
                            ... I built my version back in December from source. It s been a while but I think I used hamlib which has a pull down list of rigs -- Softrock Si570 AVR-USB
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                              On 25/04/14 17:12, Bill Cromwell wrote:
                               

                              On 04/25/2014 12:02 PM, Sid Boyce wrote:
                              > [Attachment(s) <#TopText> from Sid Boyce included below]
                              >
                              > lancelot@slipstream:> fldigi --version
                              > fldigi 3.21.75
                              >
                              > I built in in December.
                              > 73 ... Sid.
                              >
                              Thanks Sid,

                              Yours is sightly newer than mine. I have been unable to find the setup
                              options or other config for fldigi to take I&Q input. A pointer would be
                              helpful.

                              73,

                              Bill KU8H

                              I built my version back in December from source.

                              It's been a while but I think I used hamlib which has a pull down list of rigs -- "Softrock Si570 AVR-USB" in this case.

                              You can configure the sound cards for input (I & Q) and output (Mic/Spkr).

                              The setup wizard walks you through the first time.

                              When it's up and running you can also change the config.

                              I have had fldigi, gmFSK, gpsk3, WSPR all working.
                              73 ... Sid.
                              -- 
                              Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
                              Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
                              Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
                              Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
                              
                            • Sid Boyce
                              ... Hi Bill, You have been there too. Up to last night I was playing with gnuradio trying to run Hermes with it but it complains of a boolean argument which I
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                                On 25/04/14 18:42, ross.stormcrow@... wrote:
                                 

                                Yes, basically what Sid sent.  The current version of FLdigi with an up-to-date hamlib works just fine for SDR.  Or, if you're feeling adventurous, there's always GNURadio!

                                Ross
                                KD0VHN

                                Hi Bill,
                                You have been there too. Up to last night I was playing with gnuradio trying to run Hermes with it but it complains of a boolean argument which I can't quite pin down.
                                73 ... Sid.
                                -- 
                                Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
                                Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
                                Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
                                Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
                                
                              • Bill Cromwell
                                Hi, Apparently some of the software won t run I&Q unless it can find real SDR I&Q connected. Quisk is doing CW with plain audio dumped into the soundcard. It
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                                  Hi,

                                  Apparently some of the software won't run I&Q unless it can find real
                                  SDR I&Q connected. Quisk is doing CW with plain audio dumped into the
                                  soundcard. It tries to do SSB but without the phasing available it
                                  can't. No surprise there. When I get my SoftRock built I'll revisit
                                  using it with fldigi. Meanwhile I will continue to abuse DSP and SDR
                                  software with my decrepit, antique, junk radios. Some of it is very
                                  beneficial.

                                  73,

                                  Bill KU8H


                                  On 04/26/2014 11:15 AM, Sid Boyce wrote:
                                  >
                                  > On 25/04/14 18:42, ross.stormcrow@... wrote:
                                  >>
                                  >> Yes, basically what Sid sent. The current version of FLdigi with an
                                  >> up-to-date hamlib works just fine for SDR. Or, if you're feeling
                                  >> adventurous, there's always GNURadio!
                                  >>
                                  >> Ross
                                  >> KD0VHN
                                  >>
                                  > Hi Bill,
                                  > You have been there too. Up to last night I was playing with gnuradio
                                  > trying to run Hermes with it but it complains of a boolean argument
                                  > which I can't quite pin down.
                                  > 73 ... Sid.
                                  > --
                                  > Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
                                  > Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
                                  > Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
                                  > Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
                                  >
                                • Sid Boyce
                                  With QSD/QSE rigs like Softrock, one sound card is used for I-Q and the other for Mic/Spkr. 73 ... Sid. ... -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed
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                                    With QSD/QSE rigs like Softrock, one sound card is used for I-Q and the other for Mic/Spkr.
                                    73 ... Sid.

                                    On 25/04/14 20:19, Simon Thompson wrote:
                                     

                                    I also thought this worked on audio signals and not I/Q signals.

                                    On Friday, April 25, 2014, Sid Boyce <sboyce@...> wrote:

                                     
                                    [Attachment(s) from Sid Boyce included below]

                                    lancelot@slipstream:> fldigi --version
                                    fldigi 3.21.75

                                    I built in in December.
                                    73 ... Sid.

                                    On 25/04/14 14:34, Bill Cromwell wrote:
                                     

                                    Hi Ross,

                                    What version of fldigi are you using. I've been running it for a while
                                    and I have been completely unaware it would work with I-Q radios (SDR).
                                    Did I overlook something? Maybe there is a config setting in a later
                                    version. I can't find anything in the one that is running on my computer
                                    now.

                                    73,

                                    Bill KU8H

                                    On 04/25/2014 02:14 AM, Ross Sanders wrote:
                                    > Thought I'd put in my 2c worth on this one. FLdigi has a OS-X port of
                                    > it's software suite. You can find it on http://w1hkj.com/Fldigi.html
                                    > and I do know you can use hamlib to support Softrock radios. There is
                                    > an OS-X port for hamlib it says on the development website. I
                                    > personally use fldigi for my HTX-10, no rig control of course, but I
                                    > like the program itself even compared to the large number of offerings
                                    > on Windows. I also use it on Windows. I don't have any personal
                                    > experience with OS-X but as a general thing, if it works on unix-like
                                    > systems it often will work on OS-X.
                                    >
                                    > Ross
                                    > KD0VHN
                                    >



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                                    Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
                                    Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
                                    Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
                                    Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
                                    


                                    -- 
                                    Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
                                    Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
                                    Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
                                    Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
                                    
                                  • Sid Boyce
                                    Simply ./configure , make , make install and it installs in /us/local. fldigi from the command line. 73 ... Sid. ... -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License
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                                      Simply "./configure", "make", "make install" and it installs in /us/local.
                                      fldigi from the command line.
                                      73 ... Sid.

                                      On 25/04/14 22:38, Bill Cromwell wrote:
                                       

                                      Hi,

                                      I already have Quisk working to my advantage but I am having a look at
                                      GNURadio, too. I like using fldigi and will continue using it but I
                                      suspect that my questions have been misinterpretted and the answers may
                                      be wrong because they are answers to the wrong questions. So far I have
                                      been unable to find the place in any of the help or changelogs between
                                      version about how to configure fldigi to directly accept the Q and the I
                                      inputs from a receiver or to output the Q and the I signals to a
                                      transmitter from fldigi. I haven't finished with the "manual" for the
                                      latest version but so far I haven't seen it.

                                      I know this thread was hijacked part way through and some of the replies
                                      are to a different question from a different list member. I'll try to
                                      clarify my own questions later and post them here with a modified
                                      subject line. Some of us have been talking about apples (no pun
                                      intended) and some of us talking about raspberries (maybe).

                                      My observation today was startling in that I seemed easily to copy some
                                      incoming CW with the plain (no I&Q) audio from my antique Kenwood
                                      through quisk while at the same time I could NOT even hear it through
                                      the Kenwood's speaker! I have to investigate that further. I know where
                                      zero with my BFO is on the quisk spectrum screen and the one signal that
                                      startled me should have been at 550 Hz (my personal preference) in the
                                      radio speaker (bypassing quisk). There was nothing but the band noise
                                      from the speaker. I'll be following up on that too.

                                      73,

                                      Bill KU8H

                                      On 04/25/2014 03:42 PM, Simon Thompson wrote:
                                      >
                                      > I think GQRX might be based on GNURadio.
                                      >
                                      > On Friday, April 25, 2014, <ross.stormcrow@...
                                      > <mailto:ross.stormcrow@...>> wrote:
                                      >
                                      > Yes, basically what Sid sent. The current version of FLdigi with
                                      > an up-to-date hamlib works just fine for SDR. Or, if you're
                                      > feeling adventurous, there's always GNURadio!
                                      >
                                      > Ross
                                      > KD0VHN
                                      >
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                                      > <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/softrock40/conversations/messages/77587;_ylc=X3oDMTJyNGduMzZwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE2MTEwMTczBGdycHNwSWQDMTcwODM5NjM3OQRtc2dJZAM3NzU4NwRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzEzOTg0NTQ5MjU-?act=reply&messageNum=77587>
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                                      Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
                                      Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
                                      Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
                                      Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
                                      
                                    • Sid Boyce
                                      If it works, fine. I should imagine there is no image suppression with the absence of I&Q presented to the sound card. You ll certainly enjoy the Softrock once
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                                        If it works, fine.
                                        I should imagine there is no image suppression with the absence of I&Q
                                        presented to the sound card.

                                        You'll certainly enjoy the Softrock once it's up and working. It's all fun.
                                        73 ... Sid.

                                        On 26/04/14 16:31, Bill Cromwell wrote:
                                        > Hi,
                                        >
                                        > Apparently some of the software won't run I&Q unless it can find real
                                        > SDR I&Q connected. Quisk is doing CW with plain audio dumped into the
                                        > soundcard. It tries to do SSB but without the phasing available it
                                        > can't. No surprise there. When I get my SoftRock built I'll revisit
                                        > using it with fldigi. Meanwhile I will continue to abuse DSP and SDR
                                        > software with my decrepit, antique, junk radios. Some of it is very
                                        > beneficial.
                                        >
                                        > 73,
                                        >
                                        > Bill KU8H
                                        >
                                        >
                                        > On 04/26/2014 11:15 AM, Sid Boyce wrote:
                                        >> On 25/04/14 18:42, ross.stormcrow@... wrote:
                                        >>> Yes, basically what Sid sent. The current version of FLdigi with an
                                        >>> up-to-date hamlib works just fine for SDR. Or, if you're feeling
                                        >>> adventurous, there's always GNURadio!
                                        >>>
                                        >>> Ross
                                        >>> KD0VHN
                                        >>>
                                        >> Hi Bill,
                                        >> You have been there too. Up to last night I was playing with gnuradio
                                        >> trying to run Hermes with it but it complains of a boolean argument
                                        >> which I can't quite pin down.
                                        >> 73 ... Sid.
                                        >> --
                                        >> Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
                                        >> Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
                                        >> Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
                                        >> Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
                                        >>
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                                        Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
                                        Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
                                        Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
                                        Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
                                      • Bill Cromwell
                                        ... Hi Sid, Yes indeed. The images are there. It really gets to be interesting if I overload the sound card! I did mention in this thread before the Apple
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                                          On 04/26/2014 12:06 PM, Sid Boyce wrote:
                                          >
                                          > If it works, fine.
                                          > I should imagine there is no image suppression with the absence of I&Q
                                          > presented to the sound card.
                                          >
                                          > You'll certainly enjoy the Softrock once it's up and working. It's all
                                          > fun.
                                          > 73 ... Sid.
                                          >

                                          Hi Sid,

                                          Yes indeed. The images are there. It really gets to be interesting if I
                                          overload the sound card! I did mention in this thread before the Apple
                                          question got attached. I have just been taking "baby steps" exploring. I
                                          found that some of the SDR software does a great job for me even with
                                          the I&Q on CW. I expect it to be even better when I do get all the bits
                                          working.

                                          I've been using fldigi straight up without the I&Q for a long time for
                                          rtty and psk-31 for a long while. I finally realized I had to select a
                                          SDR rig in rig control (thanks for the pointer) but fldigi insists that
                                          I actually have a SDR connected or it goes on strike. Union software.
                                          Who woulda thunk?

                                          I expect to put the SoftRock together this summer and I intend to
                                          scratch build some SDR rigs, too. I will be needing two or three sound
                                          cards. The one I have provides the stereo out and the stereo line in but
                                          it's quite old and - can you spell slow? To accommodate all of the
                                          computers I might use I'll get at least two USB units. Meanwhile I'm
                                          back to lurk mode and playing with the CW.

                                          73,

                                          Bill KU8H
                                        • Sid Boyce
                                          ... You would benefit from a good sound card for I&Q to get any decent samplerate, anything will do for Mic/Spkr. Hermes-Lite should be a definite move up as
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                                            On 26/04/14 19:23, Bill Cromwell wrote:
                                             

                                            On 04/26/2014 12:06 PM, Sid Boyce wrote:
                                            >
                                            > If it works, fine.
                                            > I should imagine there is no image suppression with the absence of I&Q
                                            > presented to the sound card.
                                            >
                                            > You'll certainly enjoy the Softrock once it's up and working. It's all
                                            > fun.
                                            > 73 ... Sid.
                                            >

                                            Hi Sid,

                                            Yes indeed. The images are there. It really gets to be interesting if I
                                            overload the sound card! I did mention in this thread before the Apple
                                            question got attached. I have just been taking "baby steps" exploring. I
                                            found that some of the SDR software does a great job for me even with
                                            the I&Q on CW. I expect it to be even better when I do get all the bits
                                            working.

                                            I've been using fldigi straight up without the I&Q for a long time for
                                            rtty and psk-31 for a long while. I finally realized I had to select a
                                            SDR rig in rig control (thanks for the pointer) but fldigi insists that
                                            I actually have a SDR connected or it goes on strike. Union software.
                                            Who woulda thunk?

                                            I expect to put the SoftRock together this summer and I intend to
                                            scratch build some SDR rigs, too. I will be needing two or three sound
                                            cards. The one I have provides the stereo out and the stereo line in but
                                            it's quite old and - can you spell slow? To accommodate all of the
                                            computers I might use I'll get at least two USB units. Meanwhile I'm
                                            back to lurk mode and playing with the CW.

                                            73,

                                            Bill KU8H

                                            You would benefit from a good sound card for I&Q to get any decent samplerate, anything will do for Mic/Spkr.

                                            Hermes-Lite should be a definite move up as only a sound card for Mic/Spkr is needed.

                                            Some of my USB sound cards stopped working but the old Terratec Areon II USB keeps working on, topping out at 48K.

                                            On the whole I dislike the artifacts and grunge from sound cards when used for I&Q and it driven me to DDC/DUC SDR's, pricey now but less hassle, no centre hump and not a trace of opposite sideband so I-Q phase and amplitude balancing is nothing I have to deal with.
                                            73 ... Sid.
                                            -- 
                                            Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
                                            Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
                                            Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
                                            Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
                                            
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