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  • lbs983405
    I am building the Rev B HardRock driver board. In looking at the asm instructions I do not see where the L201 connections go on the board. Do they go to the
    Message 1 of 19 , Apr 5, 2014
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      I am building the Rev B HardRock driver board.
      In looking at the asm instructions I do not see where the L201 connections go on the board.
      Do they go to the bottem 2 left holes?
      My instructions do not allow opening of the bottem 2 photos in the Rev B asm instructions.
      Could someone post a photo or a few of the completed Driver board??
       
      Thanks,
      Lee 

      Lee Simmonds
      Summit DCS LLC
       
      260-799-4077 Office
      260-403-6936 Cell
    • Sid Boyce
      The ARRLHBC Yahoo group is the main forum for Hardrock50 discussion. You ll get all questions answered there from knowledgeable guys including the designer,
      Message 2 of 19 , Apr 5, 2014
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        The ARRLHBC Yahoo group is the main forum for Hardrock50 discussion.

        You'll get all questions answered there from knowledgeable guys including the designer, Jim WA2EUJ.
        73 ... Sid.

        On 05/04/14 20:54, Kc9cdt@... wrote:
         

        I am building the Rev B HardRock driver board.
        In looking at the asm instructions I do not see where the L201 connections go on the board.
        Do they go to the bottem 2 left holes?
        My instructions do not allow opening of the bottem 2 photos in the Rev B asm instructions.
        Could someone post a photo or a few of the completed Driver board??
         
        Thanks,
        Lee 

        Lee Simmonds
        Summit DCS LLC
         
        260-799-4077 Office
        260-403-6936 Cell


        -- 
        Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
        Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
        Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
        Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
        
      • lbs983405
        Sid, OK, Thanks... Lee Lee Simmonds Summit DCS LLC 260-799-4077 Office 260-403-6936 Cell ... From: Sid Boyce To: softrock40
        Message 3 of 19 , Apr 5, 2014
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          Sid,
          OK, Thanks...
          Lee

          Lee Simmonds
          Summit DCS LLC
           
          260-799-4077 Office
          260-403-6936 Cell


          -----Original Message-----
          From: Sid Boyce <sboyce@...>
          To: softrock40 <softrock40@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Sat, Apr 5, 2014 4:05 pm
          Subject: Re: [softrock40] Question on HardRock Driver asm

           
          The ARRLHBC Yahoo group is the main forum for Hardrock50 discussion.

          You'll get all questions answered there from knowledgeable guys including the designer, Jim WA2EUJ.
          73 ... Sid.

          On 05/04/14 20:54, Kc9cdt@... wrote:
           
          I am building the Rev B HardRock driver board.
          In looking at the asm instructions I do not see where the L201 connections go on the board.
          Do they go to the bottem 2 left holes?
          My instructions do not allow opening of the bottem 2 photos in the Rev B asm instructions.
          Could someone post a photo or a few of the completed Driver board??
           
          Thanks,
          Lee 

          Lee Simmonds
          Summit DCS LLC
           
          260-799-4077 Office
          260-403-6936 Cell


          -- 
          Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
          Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
          Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
          Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
          
        • Sid Boyce
          OK Lee, It s a very active group. 73 ... Sid. ... -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and
          Message 4 of 19 , Apr 5, 2014
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            OK Lee,
            It's a very active group.
            73 ... Sid.

            On 05/04/14 21:07, Kc9cdt@... wrote:
             

            Sid,
            OK, Thanks...
            Lee

            Lee Simmonds
            Summit DCS LLC
             
            260-799-4077 Office
            260-403-6936 Cell


            -----Original Message-----
            From: Sid Boyce <sboyce@...>
            To: softrock40 <softrock40@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Sat, Apr 5, 2014 4:05 pm
            Subject: Re: [softrock40] Question on HardRock Driver asm

             
            The ARRLHBC Yahoo group is the main forum for Hardrock50 discussion.

            You'll get all questions answered there from knowledgeable guys including the designer, Jim WA2EUJ.
            73 ... Sid.

            On 05/04/14 20:54, Kc9cdt@... wrote:
             
            I am building the Rev B HardRock driver board.
            In looking at the asm instructions I do not see where the L201 connections go on the board.
            Do they go to the bottem 2 left holes?
            My instructions do not allow opening of the bottem 2 photos in the Rev B asm instructions.
            Could someone post a photo or a few of the completed Driver board??
             
            Thanks,
            Lee 

            Lee Simmonds
            Summit DCS LLC
             
            260-799-4077 Office
            260-403-6936 Cell


            -- 
            Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
            Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
            Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
            Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
            


            -- 
            Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
            Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
            Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
            Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
            
          • Sid Boyce
            Jim posted the URL for the latest manual. https://sites.google.com/site/hardrock50beta/home/hardrock-50-builder-s-portals/sn1200-and-up-builder-s-portal 73 ...
            Message 5 of 19 , Apr 6, 2014
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              Jim posted the URL for the latest manual.

              https://sites.google.com/site/hardrock50beta/home/hardrock-50-builder-s-portals/sn1200-and-up-builder-s-portal
              73 ... Sid.

              On 06/04/14 00:43, Sid Boyce wrote:
               

              OK Lee,
              It's a very active group.
              73 ... Sid.

              On 05/04/14 21:07, Kc9cdt@... wrote:
               

              Sid,
              OK, Thanks...
              Lee

              Lee Simmonds
              Summit DCS LLC
               
              260-799-4077 Office
              260-403-6936 Cell


              -----Original Message-----
              From: Sid Boyce <sboyce@...>
              To: softrock40 <softrock40@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Sat, Apr 5, 2014 4:05 pm
              Subject: Re: [softrock40] Question on HardRock Driver asm

               
              The ARRLHBC Yahoo group is the main forum for Hardrock50 discussion.

              You'll get all questions answered there from knowledgeable guys including the designer, Jim WA2EUJ.
              73 ... Sid.

              On 05/04/14 20:54, Kc9cdt@... wrote:
               
              I am building the Rev B HardRock driver board.
              In looking at the asm instructions I do not see where the L201 connections go on the board.
              Do they go to the bottem 2 left holes?
              My instructions do not allow opening of the bottem 2 photos in the Rev B asm instructions.
              Could someone post a photo or a few of the completed Driver board??
               
              Thanks,
              Lee 

              Lee Simmonds
              Summit DCS LLC
               
              260-799-4077 Office
              260-403-6936 Cell


              -- 
              Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
              Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
              Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
              Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
              


              -- 
              Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
              Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
              Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
              Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
              


              -- 
              Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
              Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
              Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
              Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
              
          • jimveatch
            Hi Lee, Here s a photo showing where the leads of L201 go. Are you using the amp stand alone? If so you should use L202/203, C213,214 and 215 to make a
            Message 6 of 19 , Apr 6, 2014
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              Hi Lee,

              Here's a photo showing where the leads of L201 go. Are you using the amp stand alone? If so you should use L202/203, C213,214 and 215 to make a bandpass filter for the bands you intend to operate. L201 and the caps that are on the PCB are designed for 6M and do not provide the -60 dB attenuation required by the FCC. I can help you with filters if necessary.

              73's
              Jim



            • jimveatch
              Photo doesn t seems to have worked... Attached...
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              Photo doesn't seems to have worked...

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            • lbs983405
              Jim, Thanks so very much for the help. I am using it with my HR-50. I just got the kits last week and I am working to build them now. I would L201 just like
              Message 8 of 19 , Apr 6, 2014
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              Jim,
              Thanks so very much for the help.
              I am using it with my HR-50.
              I just got the kits last week and I am working to build them now.
               
              I would L201 just like the photo shows...I had guessed the correct holes to use, but waited for clarification before soldering in.
              The left hand wire comes out a little towards the center of the doughnut...is that correct.
               
              I have include a photo to be sure I have it correct (attached)
               
              73,
              Lee
               
              -----Original Message-----
              From: jim.veatch <jim.veatch@...>
              To: softrock40 <softrock40@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Sun, Apr 6, 2014 9:02 am
              Subject: [softrock40] Re: Question on HardRock Driver asm

               
              Hi Lee,

              Here's a photo showing where the leads of L201 go. Are you using the amp stand alone? If so you should use L202/203, C213,214 and 215 to make a bandpass filter for the bands you intend to operate. L201 and the caps that are on the PCB are designed for 6M and do not provide the -60 dB attenuation required by the FCC. I can help you with filters if necessary.

              73's
              Jim



            • lbs983405
              Jim, Question has come up on the Driver board build... This is from the asm manual. Note: The photo shows a Rev A PCB, on the Rev B PCB T201 is rotated 90
              Message 9 of 19 , Apr 6, 2014
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                Jim,
                Question has come up on the Driver board build...
                This is from the asm manual.
                 
                'Note: The photo shows a Rev A PCB, on the Rev B PCB T201 is rotated 90 degrees and this core is wound with RG-174 not RG-316 the soldering method and final mounting look the same.'
                 
                In my kit there was 2 pieces of coax, 1 was 3" long (the other 6" long and black) and brass color...that is the one I used.
                I used the 3" brass colored coax!
                 
                Is this correct?
                 
                Thanks,
                73,
                Lee
                 
                -----Original Message-----
                From: jim.veatch <jim.veatch@...>
                To: softrock40 <softrock40@yahoogroups.com>
                Sent: Sun, Apr 6, 2014 9:02 am
                Subject: [softrock40] Re: Question on HardRock Driver asm

                 
                Hi Lee,

                Here's a photo showing where the leads of L201 go. Are you using the amp stand alone? If so you should use L202/203, C213,214 and 215 to make a bandpass filter for the bands you intend to operate. L201 and the caps that are on the PCB are designed for 6M and do not provide the -60 dB attenuation required by the FCC. I can help you with filters if necessary.

                73's
                Jim



              • jimveatch
                Hi Lee, Yes the brass colored one is RG-316 and uses teflon insulation so it s used in the transformer where it might get very jot. The other piece is the
                Message 10 of 19 , Apr 7, 2014
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                  Hi Lee,

                  Yes the 'brass' colored one is RG-316 and uses teflon insulation so it's used in the transformer where it might get very jot. The other piece is the much less expensive RG-174, it's black, and is much more vulnerable to heat so take care when you solder it.

                  73's
                  Jim WA2EUJ
                • jimveatch
                  Hi Lee, Yes L201 looks properly installed in your photo as does T201. 73 s Jim WA2EUJ
                  Message 11 of 19 , Apr 7, 2014
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                    Hi Lee,

                    Yes L201 looks properly installed in your photo as does T201.

                    73's
                    Jim WA2EUJ
                  • lbs983405
                    Jim, OK, makes sense... I wasn t sure I understood this statement in the Rev B asm instructions...so that s why I asked. Note: The photo shows a Rev A PCB, on
                    Message 12 of 19 , Apr 7, 2014
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                      Jim,
                      OK, makes sense...
                      I wasn't sure I understood this statement in the Rev B asm instructions...so that's why I asked.
                       
                      'Note: The photo shows a Rev A PCB, on the Rev B PCB T201 is rotated 90 degrees and this core is wound with RG-174 not RG-316 the soldering method and final mounting look the same.'
                       
                      Thanks for the clarification...Glad I didn't have to re-do it.
                      73,
                      Lee
                       
                      -----Original Message-----
                      From: jim.veatch <jim.veatch@...>
                      To: softrock40 <softrock40@yahoogroups.com>
                      Sent: Mon, Apr 7, 2014 7:19 am
                      Subject: Re: [softrock40] Re: Question on HardRock Driver asm

                       
                      Hi Lee,

                      Yes the 'brass' colored one is RG-316 and uses teflon insulation so it's used in the transformer where it might get very jot. The other piece is the much less expensive RG-174, it's black, and is much more vulnerable to heat so take care when you solder it.

                      73's
                      Jim WA2EUJ
                    • lbs983405
                      Hurray! Thanks for the check. I must complement you...this kit is first class! (and I have built a bunch of kits in my time) 73, Lee ... From: jim.veatch
                      Message 13 of 19 , Apr 7, 2014
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                        Hurray!
                        Thanks for the check.
                         
                        I must complement you...this kit is first class! (and I have built a bunch of kits in my time)
                        73,
                        Lee
                         
                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: jim.veatch <jim.veatch@...>
                        To: softrock40 <softrock40@yahoogroups.com>
                        Sent: Mon, Apr 7, 2014 7:23 am
                        Subject: Re: [softrock40] Re: Question on HardRock Driver asm

                         
                        Hi Lee,

                        Yes L201 looks properly installed in your photo as does T201.

                        73's
                        Jim WA2EUJ
                      • lbs983405
                        Jim, OK, I have the driver done...except I still have a free end of the 3 conductor power cable. I do have a 3 position molex with 3 pins for it. How do I wire
                        Message 14 of 19 , Apr 7, 2014
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                          Jim,
                          OK, I have the driver done...except I still have a free end of the 3 conductor power cable.
                          I do have a 3 position molex with 3 pins for it.
                           
                          How do I wire the power cable? I looked everywhere and I can't find the wiring step for the 3 pos.  molex power connector. I looked at the Schematic and it shows pins 1,2,3 but not enough info to build it.
                           
                          Also, I do not have a 3 position header (for molex) in the driver or the amp BOM...so I think it's MIA.
                           
                          Thanks,
                          Lee

                          Lee Simmonds
                          Summit DCS LLC
                           
                          260-799-4077 Office
                          260-403-6936 Cell


                          -----Original Message-----
                          From: jim.veatch <jim.veatch@...>
                          To: softrock40 <softrock40@yahoogroups.com>
                          Sent: Mon, Apr 7, 2014 7:23 am
                          Subject: Re: [softrock40] Re: Question on HardRock Driver asm

                           
                          Hi Lee,

                          Yes L201 looks properly installed in your photo as does T201.

                          73's
                          Jim WA2EUJ
                        • jimveatch
                          Hi Lee, In the process of moving the 3 pin Molex from the amp Board to the Driver. It got lost. Email me you address and I lll send you one. (jcveatch1 at
                          Message 15 of 19 , Apr 8, 2014
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                            Hi Lee,

                            In the process of moving the 3 pin Molex from the amp Board to the Driver. It got lost. Email me you address and I'lll send you one. (jcveatch1 at gmail dot com).

                            As for the wiring, the pin out is the same on both ends. So P1 => P1, P1 => P2 and P3 => P3. The connector should already be on the 3 conductor cable and the diagram in Step 9 of the instruction shows where to solder each of the 3 conductors.

                            We should consider moving this topic to the ARRLHBC group as it seems like a better forum for this discussion.

                            73's
                            Jim WA2EUJ
                          • Chris Wilson
                            Before you guys disappear could one of you post a full link to the Hardrock forum please, I d like to enrol. Thanks. Best Regards, Chris Wilson. 2E0ILY
                            Message 16 of 19 , Apr 8, 2014
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                              Before you guys disappear could one of you post a full link to the
                              "Hardrock" forum please, I'd like to enrol. Thanks.




                              Best Regards,
                              Chris Wilson. 2E0ILY (UK)


                              > Hi Lee,

                              > In the process of moving the 3 pin Molex from the amp Board to the
                              > Driver. It got lost. Email me you address and I'lll send you one. (jcveatch1 at gmail dot com).

                              > As for the wiring, the pin out is the same on both ends. So P1 =>
                              > P1, P1 => P2 and P3 => P3. The connector should already be on the 3
                              > conductor cable and the diagram in Step 9 of the instruction shows
                              > where to solder each of the 3 conductors.

                              > We should consider moving this topic to the ARRLHBC group as it
                              > seems like a better forum for this discussion.

                              > 73's
                              > Jim WA2EUJ
                            • lbs983405
                              Go to this site...it s on the left side down the page. This is the site where you should be for build instructions. Lee ... From: Chris Wilson
                              Message 17 of 19 , Apr 8, 2014
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                                Go to this site...it's on the left side down the page.
                                This is the site where you should be for build instructions.
                                 
                                Lee

                                 
                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: Chris Wilson <chris@...>
                                To: softrock40 <softrock40@yahoogroups.com>
                                Sent: Tue, Apr 8, 2014 9:10 am
                                Subject: Re[2]: [softrock40] Re: Question on HardRock Driver asm/missing part

                                 
                                Before you guys disappear could one of you post a full link to the
                                "Hardrock" forum please, I'd like to enrol. Thanks.

                                Best Regards,
                                Chris Wilson. 2E0ILY (UK)

                                > Hi Lee,

                                > In the process of moving the 3 pin Molex from the amp Board to the
                                > Driver. It got lost. Email me you address and I'lll send you one. (jcveatch1 at gmail dot com).

                                > As for the wiring, the pin out is the same on both ends. So P1 =>
                                > P1, P1 => P2 and P3 => P3. The connector should already be on the 3
                                > conductor cable and the diagram in Step 9 of the instruction shows
                                > where to solder each of the 3 conductors.

                                > We should consider moving this topic to the ARRLHBC group as it
                                > seems like a better forum for this discussion.

                                > 73's
                                > Jim WA2EUJ

                              • lbs983405
                                Sorry, too fast here is the site https://sites.google.com/site/hardrock50beta/home/hardrock-50-builder-s-portals/sn1200-and-up-builder-s-portal Lee ... From:
                                Message 18 of 19 , Apr 8, 2014
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                                  Sorry, too fast here is the site
                                   
                                  Lee
                                   
                                  -----Original Message-----
                                  From: Chris Wilson <chris@...>
                                  To: softrock40 <softrock40@yahoogroups.com>
                                  Sent: Tue, Apr 8, 2014 9:10 am
                                  Subject: Re[2]: [softrock40] Re: Question on HardRock Driver asm/missing part

                                   
                                  Before you guys disappear could one of you post a full link to the
                                  "Hardrock" forum please, I'd like to enrol. Thanks.

                                  Best Regards,
                                  Chris Wilson. 2E0ILY (UK)

                                  > Hi Lee,

                                  > In the process of moving the 3 pin Molex from the amp Board to the
                                  > Driver. It got lost. Email me you address and I'lll send you one. (jcveatch1 at gmail dot com).

                                  > As for the wiring, the pin out is the same on both ends. So P1 =>
                                  > P1, P1 => P2 and P3 => P3. The connector should already be on the 3
                                  > conductor cable and the diagram in Step 9 of the instruction shows
                                  > where to solder each of the 3 conductors.

                                  > We should consider moving this topic to the ARRLHBC group as it
                                  > seems like a better forum for this discussion.

                                  > 73's
                                  > Jim WA2EUJ

                                • Chris Wilson
                                  Thank you Lee! Best Regards, Chris Wilson. 2E0ILY (UK)
                                  Message 19 of 19 , Apr 8, 2014
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                                    Thank you Lee!



                                    Best Regards,
                                    Chris Wilson. 2E0ILY (UK)




                                    > Sorry, too fast here is the site
                                    >
                                    > https://sites.google.com/site/hardrock50beta/home/hardrock-50-builder-s-portals/sn1200-and-up-builder-s-portal
                                    >

                                    > Lee
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