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  • warrenallgyer
    I hope you don t mind John. Rather than hijack Cory;s Voice Shaper thread I wanted to follow up on your comments in a new one that I hope will spark some
    Message 1 of 16 , Mar 15 6:24 AM
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      I hope you don't mind John. Rather than hijack Cory;s Voice Shaper thread I wanted to follow up on your comments in a new one that I hope will spark some interest.

      If Rocky behaved better with new drivers and Win 7 I probably would have never progressed to HDSDR. Now that I am there I dont want to go back except for when I want to work CW or PSK31. For those Rocky is just excellent. But it got me to thinking: A combination of some of Alex's products into the HDSDR base would make a killer piece of software. Add to it some of Joe Taylor's work and I think you would have a commercially viable product. Here would be my wishlist:

      Begin with HDSDR and add in:

      From Rocky
      - Auto IQ balance
      - Softrocks CW paddle integration
      - Sidetone
      - Test tone
      - 2 Tone Test
      - PSK31
      From Voice Shaper
      - Test Clip record and Playback
      - Mic equalization
      - Noise gate and compression
      From Joe Taylor
      - WSPR
      - JT-65

      I wonder what it would take to get Alex, LC, and Joe Taylor to put their heads together?

      Warren Allgyer
      9V1TD


      Hi Warren,

      You know I believe Alex announced a while back that he was releasing the code for for his IQ balancing scheme (in Rocky) which is really the most elegant solution- as you know. I wonder if anyone has taken a shot at implementing it? I crashed Voice Shaper a few times with virtual audio cables and gave up. I'm imagining Voice Shaper integrated into HDSDR- that would be an great combination for SSB. 

      John
      KC9OJV
    • lc_hdsdr
      Hi Warren, digimodes (PSK31, WSPR, ..) will not make their way into HDSDR. There are already very good digimode and multimode programs doing a good job. But i
      Message 2 of 16 , Mar 18 12:09 AM
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        Hi Warren,

        digimodes (PSK31, WSPR, ..) will not make their way into HDSDR. There are already very good digimode  and multimode programs doing a good job. But i can imagine a better interfacing between digimode and SDR programs to avoid necessity of virtual soundcard and virtual serial drivers.

        Softrocks CW paddle integration: unfortunately this looks to be impossible. The hardware/firmware is not capable to inform the software in a useful time.

        Some Tone Generators are already there. Press Ctrl-Shift-G when transmitting. Pressing Ctrl-Shift-G  again switches to next generator. This will not work for CW mode.

        kind regards,
        LC

      • lbs983405
        LC, (and all) I m, a little confused. If the HW/ firmware for the SR TXRX can t inform HDSDR in a timely way then how is it... it works for Rocky and POWERSDR?
        Message 3 of 16 , Mar 18 7:58 AM
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          LC, (and all)
          I'm, a little confused.
          If the HW/ firmware for the SR TXRX can't inform HDSDR in a timely way then how is it... it works for Rocky and POWERSDR?
           
          Also, what is the CW mode in HDSDR for?
          Is it just for listening?
           
          I only use 10-15 WPM when doing CW...seems like that should be OK in HDSDR
           
          Thanks,
          73,
          Lee
           
          -----Original Message-----
          From: lc <lc@...>
          To: softrock40 <softrock40@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 3:10 am
          Subject: [softrock40] Re: HDSDR Wish List

           

          Hi Warren,

          digimodes (PSK31, WSPR, ..) will not make their way into HDSDR. There are already very good digimode  and multimode programs doing a good job. But i can imagine a better interfacing between digimode and SDR programs to avoid necessity of virtual soundcard and virtual serial drivers.

          Softrocks CW paddle integration: unfortunately this looks to be impossible. The hardware/firmware is not capable to inform the software in a useful time.

          Some Tone Generators are already there. Press Ctrl-Shift-G when transmitting. Pressing Ctrl-Shift-G  again switches to next generator. This will not work for CW mode.

          kind regards,
          LC

        • Chris Wilson
          As Alex, VE3NEA posted the other day in response to a question from Warren Allgyer: Warren, ... If you mean the iambic keyer in Rocky, then the code that
          Message 4 of 16 , Mar 18 9:16 AM
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            As Alex, VE3NEA posted the other day in response to a question from
            Warren Allgyer:

            "Warren,

            On 2014-03-15 22:08, allgyer@... wrote:
            > Thank you Alex. I knew it could not be as simple as I was trying to make it.
            >
            > Any chance of you packaging your Rocky handling of the RXTX paddles in a
            > similar fashion? There are several programs that would benefit from
            > these two features.

            If you mean the iambic keyer in Rocky, then the code that implements it
            is trivial and not even worth publishing, but this function is possible
            only because Rocky talks directly to the WDM driver of the soundcard. On
            one hand, this results in the shortest possible latency that makes the
            software keyer possible, but on the other hand, it leads to the
            compatibility issues that a lot of people complain about, since Rocky
            works with some soundcards/drivers but does not work with others. by the
            way, the same problem exists with Voice Shaper, and for the same reason.


            >
            > Or, better yet, how could we persuade you to revive Rocky and include VS
            > SSB?

            I will think about this, but don't hold your breath. Honestly, I am more
            excited about my recent projects, such as Pileup Runner and a couple of
            not yet published things, and I tend to spend my limited resources on
            those projects rather than on an 8 years old Rocky.

            73 Alex VE3NEA
            "




            Best Regards,
            Chris Wilson. 2E0ILY (UK)


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            > LC, (and all)
            > I'm, a little confused.
            > If the HW/ firmware for the SR TXRX can't inform HDSDR in a timely
            > way then how is it... it works for Rocky and POWERSDR?
            >
            > Also, what is the CW mode in HDSDR for?
            > Is it just for listening?
            >
            > I only use 10-15 WPM when doing CW...seems like that should be OK in HDSDR
            >
            > Thanks,
            > 73,
            > Lee
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > -----Original Message-----
            > From: lc <lc@...>
            > To: softrock40 <softrock40@yahoogroups.com>
            > Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 3:10 am
            > Subject: [softrock40] Re: HDSDR Wish List
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            > Hi Warren,
            >
            > digimodes (PSK31, WSPR, ..) will not make their way into HDSDR.
            > There are already very good digimode and multimode programs doing a
            > good job. But i can imagine a better interfacing between digimode
            > and SDR programs to avoid necessity of virtual soundcard and virtual serial drivers.
            >
            > Softrocks CW paddle integration: unfortunately this looks to be
            > impossible. The hardware/firmware is not capable to inform the software in a useful time.
            >
            > Some Tone Generators are already there. Press Ctrl-Shift-G when
            > transmitting. Pressing Ctrl-Shift-G again switches to next
            > generator. This will not work for CW mode.
            >

            > kind regards,
            > LC
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
          • lc_hdsdr
            Hi Lee, i m sorry confusing you .. but i don t understand in detail, too. I just got this explanation from Fred Krom (pe0fko), the author of the Si570 ExtIO. I
            Message 5 of 16 , Mar 18 5:34 PM
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              Hi Lee,

              i'm sorry confusing you .. but i don't understand in detail, too. I just got this explanation from Fred Krom (pe0fko), the author of the Si570 ExtIO. I have no insight into the firmware or ExtIO implementation. All i know is, that this ExtIO is NOT giving any information on PADDLEs states to HDSDR.

              kind regards,
              LC

              ---In softrock40@yahoogroups.com, <Kc9cdt@...> wrote :

              LC, (and all)
              I'm, a little confused.
              If the HW/ firmware for the SR TXRX can't inform HDSDR in a timely way then how is it... it works for Rocky and POWERSDR?
               
              Also, what is the CW mode in HDSDR for?
              Is it just for listening?
               
              I only use 10-15 WPM when doing CW...seems like that should be OK in HDSDR
               
              Thanks,
              73,
              Lee

            • vbifyz
              Googled a little bit and found another possibility to cross the Windows/Linux boundary for Softrock control: TCP networking on localhost.
              Message 6 of 16 , Mar 19 9:45 AM
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                Googled a little bit and found another possibility to cross the Windows/Linux boundary for Softrock control: TCP networking on localhost.
                http://james.ahlstrom.name/hamlib.html
              • vbifyz
                My biggest wish is for HDSDR to be able to control Softrock Si570 under Linux/Wine. I understand that there is no easy way to use the Windows side USB driver
                Message 7 of 16 , Mar 19 9:49 AM
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                  My biggest wish is for HDSDR to be able to control Softrock Si570 under Linux/Wine.
                  I understand that there is no easy way to use the Windows side USB driver for this.
                  Maybe there is another way to cross the Windows/Linux boundary? Virtual serial port for Omnirig on Windows side to talk to hamlib on Linux side? A special ExtIO for Wine/Linux?

                  I think this configuration and Linux use for SDR in general will be in higher demand soon because of the XP updates going away in a month.

                  73, Mike
                • James Hall
                  ... This is a long time wish of mine as well.
                  Message 8 of 16 , Mar 19 11:04 AM
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                    On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 3:09 AM, <lc@...> wrote:
                     


                    Hi Warren,

                    digimodes (PSK31, WSPR, ..) will not make their way into HDSDR. There are already very good digimode  and multimode programs doing a good job. But i can imagine a better interfacing between digimode and SDR programs to avoid necessity of virtual soundcard and virtual serial drivers.

                    This is a long time wish of mine as well. 


                    Softrocks CW paddle integration: unfortunately this looks to be impossible. The hardware/firmware is not capable to inform the software in a useful time.

                    Some Tone Generators are already there. Press Ctrl-Shift-G when transmitting. Pressing Ctrl-Shift-G  again switches to next generator. This will not work for CW mode.


                    kind regards,
                    LC


                  • lbs983405
                    I m still confused. I thought it was said that Rocky OR PowerSDR IQ would work with CW Paddles up to about 20 WPM??? Why is it HDSDR does not work with CW
                    Message 9 of 16 , Mar 19 12:56 PM
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                      I'm still confused.
                      I thought it was said that Rocky OR PowerSDR IQ would work with CW Paddles up to about 20 WPM???
                      Why is it HDSDR does not work with CW paddles??
                       
                      Thanks,
                      Lee

                       -----Original Message-----
                      From: James Hall <hall.jamesr@...>
                      To: softrock40 <softrock40@yahoogroups.com>
                      Sent: Wed, Mar 19, 2014 2:04 pm
                      Subject: Re: [softrock40] Re: HDSDR Wish List

                       



                      On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 3:09 AM, <lc@...> wrote:
                       

                      Hi Warren,

                      digimodes (PSK31, WSPR, ..) will not make their way into HDSDR. There are already very good digimode  and multimode programs doing a good job. But i can imagine a better interfacing between digimode and SDR programs to avoid necessity of virtual soundcard and virtual serial drivers.
                      This is a long time wish of mine as well. 

                      Softrocks CW paddle integration: unfortunately this looks to be impossible. The hardware/firmware is not capable to inform the software in a useful time.

                      Some Tone Generators are already there. Press Ctrl-Shift-G when transmitting. Pressing Ctrl-Shift-G  again switches to next generator. This will not work for CW mode.

                      kind regards,
                      LC


                    • Sid Boyce
                      The real problem is that developers use tools that only produce Windows applications. Using Qt/C++ as DL3HVH has done for cuSDR which is specifically for
                      Message 10 of 16 , Mar 19 3:39 PM
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                        The real problem is that developers use tools that only produce Windows applications.

                        Using Qt/C++ as DL3HVH has done for cuSDR which is specifically for openHPSDR rigs solves the problem.
                        73 ... Sid.

                        On 19/03/14 16:49, 3ym3ym@... wrote:
                         

                        My biggest wish is for HDSDR to be able to control Softrock Si570 under Linux/Wine.
                        I understand that there is no easy way to use the Windows side USB driver for this.
                        Maybe there is another way to cross the Windows/Linux boundary? Virtual serial port for Omnirig on Windows side to talk to hamlib on Linux side? A special ExtIO for Wine/Linux?

                        I think this configuration and Linux use for SDR in general will be in higher demand soon because of the XP updates going away in a month.

                        73, Mike



                        -- 
                        Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
                        Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
                        Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
                        Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
                        
                      • warrenallgyer
                        I couldn t wait to get home from a business trip and try out LC s apparently undocumented HDSDR test tones. This is an extremely useful capability and I have
                        Message 11 of 16 , Mar 21 3:47 AM
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                          I couldn't wait to get home from a business trip and try out LC's apparently undocumented HDSDR test tones. This is an extremely useful capability and I have not seen it talked about. After some trial and error here is what I find.

                          The test tones are available in the AM/FM/LSB/USB modes. When in any of these modes, if you press CTL Shift G you will activate the tone generator. Subsequent presses of the same key combination will cycle you through 9 different tone/level combinations. I measured them by transmitting on an RXTX 80/40 and receiving the attenuated signal on an RXII/HDSDR and the spectrum analyzer. Here is the sequence that results from initial and subsequent combo presses:

                          1) Transmit on and 750 Hz at -20 dB from reference level
                          2) 750 Hz at -6 dB
                          3) 750 Hz at 0 (my arbitrary reference level, more below)
                          4) 750 Hz and 1750 Hz at -26 dB from reference
                          5) 750 Hz and 1750 Hz at -11 dB
                          6) 750 Hz and 1750 Hz at -6 dB
                          7) 750 Hz,1750 Hz, and 2350 Hz at -29 dB
                          8) 750 Hz,1750 Hz, and 2350 Hz at -14 dB
                          9) 750 Hz,1750 Hz, and 2350 Hz at -11 dB
                          10) Transmit off

                          The level measurements are probably + or - 1 dB and the tone frequencies were read out from the HDSDR spectrum display. It seems the intention was probably -20, -6, and 0 for each of the combinations.

                          In my first attempt to use the tones I went to #3 and raised the output level until the RF output just stopped increasing. This appears to be a good way to set the power levels for HDSDR for CW.

                          In my second attempt I went to #6 and adjusted the output power level slider to get my desired IMD3 level as read out on the RXII/HDSDR spectrum display. A great way to set the transmitter up for SSB. You just have to choose wisely on the desired IMD3 level: -24 dB by custom, with pretty good power and not so clean spurs, or -40 for clean as a whistle but relatively low power out.

                          Very very cool! An extremely useful tool for setting levels in HDSDR and for testing the RXTX transmit function.

                          Thank you LC!

                          PS: If you could find a way to make/break #3 from the RXTX paddles you would give us a GREAT CW transmitter. I'm just sayin'...........

                          Warren Allgyer
                          9V1TD
                        • Chris Wilson
                          How cool is that? :) Very useful indeed, and I wonder if there are any other Easter Eggs in HDSDR? I just love the uncluttered interface and its rock solid
                          Message 12 of 16 , Mar 21 4:04 AM
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                            How cool is that? :) Very useful indeed, and I wonder if there are
                            any other "Easter Eggs" in HDSDR? I just love the uncluttered
                            interface and its rock solid stability. Thanks to the programmers for
                            a great piece of software.



                            Best Regards,
                            Chris Wilson. 2E0ILY (UK)



                            > I couldn't wait to get home from a business trip and try out LC's
                            > apparently undocumented HDSDR test tones. This is an extremely
                            > useful capability and I have not seen it talked about. After some
                            > trial and error here is what I find.

                            > The test tones are available in the AM/FM/LSB/USB modes. When in
                            > any of these modes, if you press CTL Shift G you will activate the
                            > tone generator. Subsequent presses of the same key combination will
                            > cycle you through 9 different tone/level combinations. I measured
                            > them by transmitting on an RXTX 80/40 and receiving the attenuated
                            > signal on an RXII/HDSDR and the spectrum analyzer. Here is the
                            > sequence that results from initial and subsequent combo presses:

                            > 1) Transmit on and 750 Hz at -20 dB from reference level
                            > 2) 750 Hz at -6 dB
                            > 3) 750 Hz at 0 (my arbitrary reference level, more below)
                            > 4) 750 Hz and 1750 Hz at -26 dB from reference
                            > 5) 750 Hz and 1750 Hz at -11 dB
                            > 6) 750 Hz and 1750 Hz at -6 dB
                            > 7) 7 50 Hz,1750 Hz, and 2350 Hz at -29 dB
                            > 8) 750 Hz,1750 Hz, and 2350 Hz at -14 dB
                            > 9) 750 Hz,1750 Hz, and 2350 Hz at -11 dB
                            > 10) Transmit off

                            > The level measurements are probably + or - 1 dB and the tone
                            > frequencies were read out from the HDSDR spectrum display. It seems
                            > the intention was probably -20, -6, and 0 for each of the combinations.

                            > In my first attempt to use the tones I went to #3 and raised the
                            > output level until the RF output just stopped increasing. This
                            > appears to be a good way to set the power levels for HDSDR for CW.

                            > In my second attempt I went to #6 and adjusted the output power
                            > level slider to get my desired IMD3 level as read out on the
                            > RXII/HDSDR spectrum display. A great way to set the transmitter up
                            > for SSB. You just have to choose wisely on the desired IMD3 level:
                            > -24 dB by custom, with pretty good power and not so clean spurs, or
                            > -40 for clean as a whistle but relatively low power out.

                            > Very very cool! An extremely useful tool for setting levels in
                            > HDSDR and for testing the RXTX transmit function.

                            > Thank you LC!

                            > PS: If you could find a way to make/break #3 from the RXTX paddles
                            > you would give us a GREAT CW transmitter. I'm just sayin'...........

                            > Warren Allgyer
                            > 9V1TD
                          • lbs983405
                            I love it too... But, darn I want to do CW at 10-15 WPM and it does not have support for CW paddles. Maybe that could be added?? I do use it for digital and it
                            Message 13 of 16 , Mar 21 6:43 AM
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                              I love it too...
                              But, darn I want to do CW at 10-15 WPM and it does not have support for CW paddles.
                              Maybe that could be added??
                               
                              I do use it for digital and it works FB.
                              73,
                              Lee
                              Lee Simmonds
                              Summit DCS LLC
                               
                              260-799-4077 Office
                              260-403-6936 Cell
                              -----Original Message-----
                              From: Chris Wilson <chris@...>
                              To: softrock40 <softrock40@yahoogroups.com>
                              Sent: Fri, Mar 21, 2014 9:16 am
                              Subject: Re: [softrock40] Re: softrock40

                               

                              How cool is that? :) Very useful indeed, and I wonder if there are
                              any other "Easter Eggs" in HDSDR? I just love the uncluttered
                              interface and its rock solid stability. Thanks to the programmers for
                              a great piece of software.

                              Best Regards,
                              Chris Wilson. 2E0ILY (UK)

                              > I couldn't wait to get home from a business trip and try out LC's
                              > apparently undocumented HDSDR test tones. This is an extremely
                              > useful capability and I have not seen it talked about. After some
                              > trial and error here is what I find.

                              > The test tones are available in the AM/FM/LSB/USB modes. When in
                              > any of these modes, if you press CTL Shift G you will activate the
                              > tone generator. Subsequent presses of the same key combination will
                              > cycle you through 9 different tone/level combinations. I measured
                              > them by transmitting on an RXTX 80/40 and receiving the attenuated
                              > signal on an RXII/HDSDR and the spectrum analyzer. Here is the
                              > sequence that results from initial and subsequent combo presses:

                              > 1) Transmit on and 750 Hz at -20 dB from reference level
                              > 2) 750 Hz at -6 dB
                              > 3) 750 Hz at 0 (my arbitrary reference level, more below)
                              > 4) 750 Hz and 1750 Hz at -26 dB from reference
                              > 5) 750 Hz and 1750 Hz at -11 dB
                              > 6) 750 Hz and 1750 Hz at -6 dB
                              > 7) 7 50 Hz,1750 Hz, and 2350 Hz at -29 dB
                              > 8) 750 Hz,1750 Hz, and 2350 Hz at -14 dB
                              > 9) 750 Hz,1750 Hz, and 2350 Hz at -11 dB
                              > 10) Transmit off

                              > The level measurements are probably + or - 1 dB and the tone
                              > frequencies were read out from the HDSDR spectrum display. It seems
                              > the intention was probably -20, -6, and 0 for each of the combinations.

                              > In my first attempt to use the tones I went to #3 and raised the
                              > output level until the RF output just stopped increasing. This
                              > appears to be a good way to set the power levels for HDSDR for CW.

                              > In my second attempt I went to #6 and adjusted the output power
                              > level slider to get my desired IMD3 level as read out on the
                              > RXII/HDSDR spectrum display. A great way to set the transmitter up
                              > for SSB. You just have to choose wisely on the desired IMD3 level:
                              > -24 dB by custom, with pretty good power and not so clean spurs, or
                              > -40 for clean as a whistle but relatively low power out.

                              > Very very cool! An extremely useful tool for setting levels in
                              > HDSDR and for testing the RXTX transmit function.

                              > Thank you LC!

                              > PS: If you could find a way to make/break #3 from the RXTX paddles
                              > you would give us a GREAT CW transmitter. I'm just sayin'...........

                              > Warren Allgyer
                              > 9V1TD

                            • lc_hdsdr
                              Hello to Warren, Chris, Lee and everyone, your measurent is quite good Warren. The exact amplitudes are: 1) amplitude = 0.1 2) amplitude = 0.5 3) amplitude =
                              Message 14 of 16 , Mar 21 12:14 PM
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                                Hello to Warren, Chris, Lee and everyone,

                                your measurent is quite good Warren. The exact amplitudes are:
                                1) amplitude = 0.1
                                2) amplitude = 0.5
                                3) amplitude = 0.99
                                4) amplitude = 0.5 * 0.1
                                5) amplitude = 0.5 * 0.5
                                6) amplitude = 0.5 * 0.99
                                7) amplitude = 0.33 * 0.1
                                8) amplitude = 0.33 * 0.5
                                9) amplitude = 0.33 * 0.99
                                what gives the levels  -20, -6, -0.1 ;  -26, -12, -6.1  and  -29.6, -15.7, -9.7 dB.
                                The factors 0.5 for 4-6 is to avoid oversteering with 2 tones. Factor 0.33 for 7-9 with 3 tones.

                                As Warren did, one should set 3) and reduce output power until having a clean output carrier. That is to avoid oversteering of output soundcard and amplifier ..

                                The 3 tones are chosen with 700, 1700 and 2300 Hz. This are the values in the code.
                                They are sort of prime, so that harmonics of lower tones don't interfere with higher tones.
                                I've no clue why you measure additional 50 Hz offset for each tone! But i did not test this for a long time!

                                Other "Easter Eggs"? Go, find them! ;-)

                                I understand what you are "just sayin" with RXTX paddles. But! I have absolutely no possibility to do so!!! HDSDR itself has no way to talk to the SoftRock hardware directly. Only the ExtIO from Fred can communicate with the SoftRock .. and would need to pass the paddle's state to HDSDR. But the Si570 ExtIO does NOT pass any such information concerning paddles! That is, why it's impossible to do in HDSDR.
                                If you know, that CW paddles are utilized in Rocky or PowerSDR (i never tried), then you should talk with Fred Krom, the developer of the ExtIO.

                                I'll add a CW control over serial port. Promised! But, please don't ask when! The answer would just be: when it's finished.

                                kind regards,
                                LC

                              • warrenallgyer
                                Hello LC Thank you so much for this. I was able to use a better measurement method and confirm the frequencies of 700, 1700, and 2300 Hz. After calibrating
                                Message 15 of 16 , Mar 21 3:16 PM
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                                  Hello LC

                                  Thank you so much for this. I was able to use a better measurement method and confirm the frequencies of 700, 1700, and 2300 Hz. After calibrating both the RXTX and the RXII I put the RXII/HDSDR in the ECSS mode, I narrowed down the filter so that I could lock on each of the three tones and then read out the modulated frequency directly from the display. Subtracting the transmit carrier frequency gives the modulating tone frequency. Right on the nose within the resolution of the readout! My previous method was to tune the signal as USB and then read the tone frequencies on the lower right spectrum display and I suspect my tuning/calibration was off by 50 Hz for whatever reason.

                                  Regarding detecting the RXTX paddles: It seems that the ExtIO dll does have some mechanism built in to do so. If you bring up the control panel and go to the "Test" tab, you will note the "P2/CW" and the "CW2" state indicators. If you close either of the paddles and click the "Get" button the indicators will change state. If you tick the "Repeat" box it seems to do sequential "Get"s and you can see the indicators change state as you open and close each paddle. So I am pretty sure the paddle state is delivered somehow via the ExtIO dll.

                                  Is there some way to enable playout of the audio test tones to the speaker during transmit? This would be a critical element of producing modulated CW whether you do so with a serial input or by the ExtIO method above. We would need a sidetone for monitoring the sent CW.

                                  On the easter eggs..... hunting........ no joy so far.

                                  Warren Allgyer
                                  9V1TD
                                • to_vinca
                                  Mike, A few weeks ago I posted a script that is my way of working around the USB problem with HDSDR running under WINE in Ubuntu Linux. The method in the linux
                                  Message 16 of 16 , Mar 22 4:49 PM
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                                    Mike,

                                    A few weeks ago I posted a script that is my way of working around the USB problem with HDSDR running under WINE in Ubuntu Linux. The method in the linux script is to use HDSDR's CAT interface to read the HDSDR GUI by virtual serial port (WINE supports serial ports, fortunately) and then send frequency setting commands to the Si570 via "usbsoftrock" running on the linux side. That bypasses the USB problem. Due to the narrow set of CAT commands available in HDSDR, some flexibility in tuning is lost, but it is not too bad, especially when compared to tuning by typing a usbsoftrock command line for each LO Frequency change. Please have a look at message 77020, including the file attached to it. Comment text in the script file may help with understanding and set-up if you want to try it.

                                    BTW, I, too, was motivated by the impending demise of XP. I had been running HDSDR in Win XP with a Softrock Ensemble II RX, but intend to continue running it in L-Ubuntu on the same machine after Win XP support goes away.

                                    A (small?) wish for HDSDR support would be the addition of a CAT command pair that reads-out and sets the LO in a manner directly analogous to the way the TUNE setting can be accessed through CAT now. With that addition, and a concomitant minor enhancement of the linux script, the above referenced loss of flexibility would go away. Put in CAT command terms, I suggest Kenwood's "FB...;" commands could be used in HDSDR to do for the LO the exact same thing the "FA...;" commands do right now with respect to the TUNE function. In my HDSDR experimentation, I found HDSDR does  respond to "FB;", but the response is not meaningful (to me, anyway...). I'm guessing that means that the standard "FB;" commands may not be fully implemented and, therefore, maybe, could be used for the LO control. If my wish is granted, I volunteer to fix my script to take advantage of it ;-)

                                    cheers,
                                    bruce


                                    ---In softrock40@yahoogroups.com, <3ym3ym@...> wrote :

                                    My biggest wish is for HDSDR to be able to control Softrock Si570 under Linux/Wine.
                                    I understand that there is no easy way to use the Windows side USB driver for this.
                                    Maybe there is another way to cross the Windows/Linux boundary? Virtual serial port for Omnirig on Windows side to talk to hamlib on Linux side? A special ExtIO for Wine/Linux?

                                    I think this configuration and Linux use for SDR in general will be in higher demand soon because of the XP updates going away in a month.

                                    73, Mike
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