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  • MATT PARKINSON
    I recently purchase a softrock 40 sdr receiver. I can use it in my old XP computer no problem at all . However using in my window 7 computer the damn thing
    Message 1 of 14 , Aug 22, 2013
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      I recently purchase a softrock 40 sdr receiver.

      I can use it in my old XP computer no problem at all .

      However using in my window 7 computer the damn thing won’t work at all.

      The new computer doesn’t see it doesn’t even know its there.

      I am using Rocky the same version on the XP .

      Can someone shine some light on this thanks.

      MP

       

      From: softrock40@yahoogroups.com [mailto:softrock40@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sid Boyce
      Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:29 AM
      To: softrock40@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [softrock40] Softrock + opensuse 12.3 linux

       

       

      The only problem it used to have was needing -lbusb-1.0 added to some Makefiles but that was an easy local fix, fixed upstream some time ago.
      Qt-5 always worked, just needed a slight mod to QtRadio.pro. I used the Qt5 development repository which has been around in openSUSE for quite some time.

      Currently libortp is a later version than that used by Ubuntu and ghpsdr3-alex under openSUSE requires the patch I posted to the sdr-widget group a few weeks back - the ghpsdr3-alex code needed an additional port defined, 4 files affected in dspserver, Dttsp and QtRadio.
      The Ubuntu version needs only RTP_PORT defined but the openSUSE one needs RTP_PORT and RTCP_PORT.
       
      The same issue will hit Ubuntu when they upgrade ortp.
      73 ... Sid.

      On 22/08/13 16:23, MIKE DURKIN wrote:

       

      Hey Sid ...

      Does ghpsdr3-alex compile on opensuse now?

      I seem to think that i rememebr that Qt5.1 had issues on opensuse ...

      Least they seem to have the max98090 kernel right .... i think.

      Mike KC7NOA


      To: softrock40@yahoogroups.com
      From: sboyce@...
      Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:20:41 +0100
      Subject: Re: [softrock40] Softrock + opensuse 12.3 linux

       

       

      Comments embedded.

      On 22/08/13 04:30, kf5jmd@... wrote:

       

      Ok, so I have working lite II receiver, works fine under Windows. Tried to hook it up to a brand new install opensuse 12.3 linux machine, can't find any SDR software that works.

      1. GHPSDR pops up a window that says cannot locate Ozy. I have no idea what Ozy is.

      May be you are using John Melton's ghpsdr or ghpsdr3, you need ghpsdr3-alex
      http://napan.ca/ghpsdr3/index.php/Main_Page
      This supplies many servers for many SDR's including the "softrock" server - talks to the SDR.
      "dspserver" which puts the server on the internet.
      "QtRadio" is the client that can connect locally to 127.0.0.1 or across your LAN to the IP address running dspserver or across the internet using QtRadio or glHPSDR running on an Android phone or tablet.

      You can see who and what's currently online by going to http://qtradio.napan.ca/qtradio/qtradio.pl


      2. Quisk says Traceback (most recent call last):
      File "./quisk", line 3, in <module>
      import quisk # May be quisk.py or package quisk
      File "/home/cschmidt/software/quisk/quisk/quisk.py", line 34, in <module>
      import _quisk as QS
      ImportError: ./_quisk.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32

      My system is 64 bit, not sure if it will work at all...

      The latest is quisk-3.6.12 at james.ahlstrom.name/quisk/
      One exploded - "tar zxfv quisk-3.6.12.tar.gz"
      "cd quisk-3.6.12" then run make.
      Pre-reqs
      -------------
      sudo apt-get install libfftw3-dev libasound2-dev libportaudio2 portaudio19-dev libncurses5-dev libwxbase2.8-0 libwxgtk2.8-0 python-wxgtk2.8 python-wxversion libusb-dev python2.7-dev

      In the softrock subdirectory
      # ls /opt/quisk-3.6.12/softrock/
      conf_fixed.py  conf_rx_ensemble2.py  conf_rx_tx_ensemble.py  hardware_usb_new.py  hardware_usb.py

      Use the "conf_rx_ensemble2.py" file as the template for your ~/.quisk_conf.py file.
      You may have to change the name_of _sound_play and name_of_sound_capt designations in ~/.quisk_conf.py
      e.g name_of_sound_capt = "hw:1" or in some cases "plughw:1" for interfacing with the softrock as I-Q.
      name_of_sound_play = "hw:0" or "plughw:0" for Mic/Speakers.
      microphone_name = "hw:0" or "plughw:0"
      name_of_mic_play = "hw:0" or "plughw:0" for Ensemble RXTX.

      With everything in place execute "python quisk.py" and you are up and running.



      3. QTradio -- does this work? Cannot find it

      QtRadio is part of ghpsdr3-alex, glHPSDR for Android phone/tablet is available from Google Play Store.



      4. GnuRadio Companion -- Installed, runs, but no idea how to work it, looks super complicated and/or a backend for some other program to use, not to be used directly with SDR as frontend/gui.

      I don't think there is a softrock module in gnuradio and as far as I know, no one has built one using gnuradio-companion. I have been trying to get the HiQSDR module to run under gnuradio-3.6.5, it didn't work and I haven't got back to looking at it.
      May be when gnuradio 3.7 has stabilized I'll look at it again.


      Sorry for being so "dumb" on this subject, I am new to SDR, but had no problems getting Ensemble II to work under Windows XP, or the Lite II receivers, all work fine. I know plenty about Linux, but thought I'd ask this question before I spend hours reading crap and making my hair even more gray:

      The big question: Am I barking up the wrong tree? Do ANY of the popular software packages for the Softrock work under OpenSuse 12.3 or should I be trying an older version of Opensuse? I have install DVD's for 9, 10, and 11, as I have been using Opensuse for webserver duties for a long time now, years and years.

      I am spoiled to HDSDR in Windows, it just "works" and looks so nice. Would like something similar that will work under Linux (X86_64).

      Thanks in advance.

      Not dumb at all, all the questions have been very reasonably put and answerable.
      I use openSUSE 13.1 Milestone 4 x86_64, Kubuntu x86_64 and Ubuntu ARM all 13.04 and I have built and set up quisk on Mint for a friend to use with his Ensemble RXTX.
      ARM boxes here are Pandaboard, Beaglebone and ODROID-X - awaiting delivery of the Parallela Supercomputer board to play SDR on.

      openSUSE and I go all the way back to 6.0 and Ubuntu since maybe 8.10 or 9.04, SLS (the first Linux distro), Slackware, RedHat, CentOS, Mint, etc. ..... I've done most of them standalone or running on openSUSE under VirtualBox.

      If it's Linux I am happy with it and I would say the same about any of the dozen or more OS's I have worked with in my time, though quite a few expletives have aired when dealing with Solaris as part of the day job before retirement and also with the Ultra SPARC5 and the Sun Enterprise E4500 I have here at home.
      IBM's z/OS, z/VM and their forerunners, Amdahl UTS (Unix on Mainframes) were all as much fun as Linux is.
      On Mainframes and SPARC, Linux appeared the same as Linux running on a PC.
      73 ... Sid.

       

       

      -- 
      Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
      Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
      Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
      Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks

       




      -- 
      Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
      Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
      Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
      Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks

    • MIKE DURKIN
      Windows .. did you install the certification certificate for the controller ? To: softrock40@yahoogroups.com From: mparkinson1@socal.rr.com Date: Thu, 22 Aug
      Message 2 of 14 , Aug 22, 2013
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        Windows .. did you install the certification certificate for the controller ?


        To: softrock40@yahoogroups.com
        From: mparkinson1@...
        Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 16:46:01 -0700
        Subject: RE: [softrock40] Softrock + opensuse 12.3 linux

         

        I recently purchase a softrock 40 sdr receiver.

        I can use it in my old XP computer no problem at all .

        However using in my window 7 computer the damn thing won’t work at all.

        The new computer doesn’t see it doesn’t even know its there.

        I am using Rocky the same version on the XP .

        Can someone shine some light on this thanks.

        MP

         

        From: softrock40@yahoogroups.com [mailto:softrock40@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sid Boyce
        Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:29 AM
        To: softrock40@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [softrock40] Softrock + opensuse 12.3 linux

         

         

        The only problem it used to have was needing -lbusb-1.0 added to some Makefiles but that was an easy local fix, fixed upstream some time ago.
        Qt-5 always worked, just needed a slight mod to QtRadio.pro. I used the Qt5 development repository which has been around in openSUSE for quite some time.

        Currently libortp is a later version than that used by Ubuntu and ghpsdr3-alex under openSUSE requires the patch I posted to the sdr-widget group a few weeks back - the ghpsdr3-alex code needed an additional port defined, 4 files affected in dspserver, Dttsp and QtRadio.
        The Ubuntu version needs only RTP_PORT defined but the openSUSE one needs RTP_PORT and RTCP_PORT.
         
        The same issue will hit Ubuntu when they upgrade ortp.
        73 ... Sid.

        On 22/08/13 16:23, MIKE DURKIN wrote:

         

        Hey Sid ...

        Does ghpsdr3-alex compile on opensuse now?

        I seem to think that i rememebr that Qt5.1 had issues on opensuse ...

        Least they seem to have the max98090 kernel right .... i think.

        Mike KC7NOA


        To: softrock40@yahoogroups.com
        From: sboyce@...
        Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:20:41 +0100
        Subject: Re: [softrock40] Softrock + opensuse 12.3 linux

         

         

        Comments embedded.

        On 22/08/13 04:30, kf5jmd@... wrote:

         

        Ok, so I have working lite II receiver, works fine under Windows. Tried to hook it up to a brand new install opensuse 12.3 linux machine, can't find any SDR software that works.

        1. GHPSDR pops up a window that says cannot locate Ozy. I have no idea what Ozy is.

        May be you are using John Melton's ghpsdr or ghpsdr3, you need ghpsdr3-alex
        http://napan.ca/ghpsdr3/index.php/Main_Page
        This supplies many servers for many SDR's including the "softrock" server - talks to the SDR.
        "dspserver" which puts the server on the internet.
        "QtRadio" is the client that can connect locally to 127.0.0.1 or across your LAN to the IP address running dspserver or across the internet using QtRadio or glHPSDR running on an Android phone or tablet.

        You can see who and what's currently online by going to http://qtradio.napan.ca/qtradio/qtradio.pl


        2. Quisk says Traceback (most recent call last):
        File "./quisk", line 3, in <module>
        import quisk # May be quisk.py or package quisk
        File "/home/cschmidt/software/quisk/quisk/quisk.py", line 34, in <module>
        import _quisk as QS
        ImportError: ./_quisk.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32

        My system is 64 bit, not sure if it will work at all...

        The latest is quisk-3.6.12 at james.ahlstrom.name/quisk/
        One exploded - "tar zxfv quisk-3.6.12.tar.gz"
        "cd quisk-3.6.12" then run make.
        Pre-reqs
        -------------
        sudo apt-get install libfftw3-dev libasound2-dev libportaudio2 portaudio19-dev libncurses5-dev libwxbase2.8-0 libwxgtk2.8-0 python-wxgtk2.8 python-wxversion libusb-dev python2.7-dev

        In the softrock subdirectory
        # ls /opt/quisk-3.6.12/softrock/
        conf_fixed.py  conf_rx_ensemble2.py  conf_rx_tx_ensemble.py  hardware_usb_new.py  hardware_usb.py

        Use the "conf_rx_ensemble2.py" file as the template for your ~/.quisk_conf.py file.
        You may have to change the name_of _sound_play and name_of_sound_capt designations in ~/.quisk_conf.py
        e.g name_of_sound_capt = "hw:1" or in some cases "plughw:1" for interfacing with the softrock as I-Q.
        name_of_sound_play = "hw:0" or "plughw:0" for Mic/Speakers.
        microphone_name = "hw:0" or "plughw:0"
        name_of_mic_play = "hw:0" or "plughw:0" for Ensemble RXTX.

        With everything in place execute "python quisk.py" and you are up and running.



        3. QTradio -- does this work? Cannot find it

        QtRadio is part of ghpsdr3-alex, glHPSDR for Android phone/tablet is available from Google Play Store.



        4. GnuRadio Companion -- Installed, runs, but no idea how to work it, looks super complicated and/or a backend for some other program to use, not to be used directly with SDR as frontend/gui.

        I don't think there is a softrock module in gnuradio and as far as I know, no one has built one using gnuradio-companion. I have been trying to get the HiQSDR module to run under gnuradio-3.6.5, it didn't work and I haven't got back to looking at it.
        May be when gnuradio 3.7 has stabilized I'll look at it again.


        Sorry for being so "dumb" on this subject, I am new to SDR, but had no problems getting Ensemble II to work under Windows XP, or the Lite II receivers, all work fine. I know plenty about Linux, but thought I'd ask this question before I spend hours reading crap and making my hair even more gray:

        The big question: Am I barking up the wrong tree? Do ANY of the popular software packages for the Softrock work under OpenSuse 12.3 or should I be trying an older version of Opensuse? I have install DVD's for 9, 10, and 11, as I have been using Opensuse for webserver duties for a long time now, years and years.

        I am spoiled to HDSDR in Windows, it just "works" and looks so nice. Would like something similar that will work under Linux (X86_64).

        Thanks in advance.

        Not dumb at all, all the questions have been very reasonably put and answerable.
        I use openSUSE 13.1 Milestone 4 x86_64, Kubuntu x86_64 and Ubuntu ARM all 13.04 and I have built and set up quisk on Mint for a friend to use with his Ensemble RXTX.
        ARM boxes here are Pandaboard, Beaglebone and ODROID-X - awaiting delivery of the Parallela Supercomputer board to play SDR on.

        openSUSE and I go all the way back to 6.0 and Ubuntu since maybe 8.10 or 9.04, SLS (the first Linux distro), Slackware, RedHat, CentOS, Mint, etc. ..... I've done most of them standalone or running on openSUSE under VirtualBox.

        If it's Linux I am happy with it and I would say the same about any of the dozen or more OS's I have worked with in my time, though quite a few expletives have aired when dealing with Solaris as part of the day job before retirement and also with the Ultra SPARC5 and the Sun Enterprise E4500 I have here at home.
        IBM's z/OS, z/VM and their forerunners, Amdahl UTS (Unix on Mainframes) were all as much fun as Linux is.
        On Mainframes and SPARC, Linux appeared the same as Linux running on a PC.
        73 ... Sid.

         

         

        -- 
        Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
        Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
        Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
        Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks

         




        -- 
        Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
        Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
        Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
        Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks


      • MATT PARKINSON
        Well I guess I didn t . Where is it so I can install it. Thanks again MP From: softrock40@yahoogroups.com [mailto:softrock40@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of MIKE
        Message 3 of 14 , Aug 22, 2013
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          Well

          I guess I didn’t .

          Where is it so I can install it.

          Thanks again

          MP

           

          From: softrock40@yahoogroups.com [mailto:softrock40@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of MIKE DURKIN
          Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 5:22 PM
          To: softrock
          Subject: RE: [softrock40] Softrock + opensuse 12.3 linux

           

           

          Windows .. did you install the certification certificate for the controller ?


          To: softrock40@yahoogroups.com
          From: mparkinson1@...
          Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 16:46:01 -0700
          Subject: RE: [softrock40] Softrock + opensuse 12.3 linux

           

           

          I recently purchase a softrock 40 sdr receiver.

          I can use it in my old XP computer no problem at all .

          However using in my window 7 computer the damn thing won’t work at all.

          The new computer doesn’t see it doesn’t even know its there.

          I am using Rocky the same version on the XP .

          Can someone shine some light on this thanks.

          MP

           

          From: softrock40@yahoogroups.com [mailto:softrock40@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sid Boyce
          Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:29 AM
          To: softrock40@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [softrock40] Softrock + opensuse 12.3 linux

           

           

          The only problem it used to have was needing -lbusb-1.0 added to some Makefiles but that was an easy local fix, fixed upstream some time ago.
          Qt-5 always worked, just needed a slight mod to QtRadio.pro. I used the Qt5 development repository which has been around in openSUSE for quite some time.

          Currently libortp is a later version than that used by Ubuntu and ghpsdr3-alex under openSUSE requires the patch I posted to the sdr-widget group a few weeks back - the ghpsdr3-alex code needed an additional port defined, 4 files affected in dspserver, Dttsp and QtRadio.
          The Ubuntu version needs only RTP_PORT defined but the openSUSE one needs RTP_PORT and RTCP_PORT.
           
          The same issue will hit Ubuntu when they upgrade ortp.
          73 ... Sid.

          On 22/08/13 16:23, MIKE DURKIN wrote:

           

          Hey Sid ...

          Does ghpsdr3-alex compile on opensuse now?

          I seem to think that i rememebr that Qt5.1 had issues on opensuse ...

          Least they seem to have the max98090 kernel right .... i think.

          Mike KC7NOA


          To: softrock40@yahoogroups.com
          From: sboyce@...
          Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:20:41 +0100
          Subject: Re: [softrock40] Softrock + opensuse 12.3 linux

           

           

          Comments embedded.

          On 22/08/13 04:30, kf5jmd@... wrote:

           

          Ok, so I have working lite II receiver, works fine under Windows. Tried to hook it up to a brand new install opensuse 12.3 linux machine, can't find any SDR software that works.

          1. GHPSDR pops up a window that says cannot locate Ozy. I have no idea what Ozy is.

          May be you are using John Melton's ghpsdr or ghpsdr3, you need ghpsdr3-alex
          http://napan.ca/ghpsdr3/index.php/Main_Page
          This supplies many servers for many SDR's including the "softrock" server - talks to the SDR.
          "dspserver" which puts the server on the internet.
          "QtRadio" is the client that can connect locally to 127.0.0.1 or across your LAN to the IP address running dspserver or across the internet using QtRadio or glHPSDR running on an Android phone or tablet.

          You can see who and what's currently online by going to http://qtradio.napan.ca/qtradio/qtradio.pl

          2. Quisk says Traceback (most recent call last):
          File "./quisk", line 3, in <module>
          import quisk # May be quisk.py or package quisk
          File "/home/cschmidt/software/quisk/quisk/quisk.py", line 34, in <module>
          import _quisk as QS
          ImportError: ./_quisk.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32

          My system is 64 bit, not sure if it will work at all...

          The latest is quisk-3.6.12 at james.ahlstrom.name/quisk/
          One exploded - "tar zxfv quisk-3.6.12.tar.gz"
          "cd quisk-3.6.12" then run make.
          Pre-reqs
          -------------
          sudo apt-get install libfftw3-dev libasound2-dev libportaudio2 portaudio19-dev libncurses5-dev libwxbase2.8-0 libwxgtk2.8-0 python-wxgtk2.8 python-wxversion libusb-dev python2.7-dev

          In the softrock subdirectory
          # ls /opt/quisk-3.6.12/softrock/
          conf_fixed.py  conf_rx_ensemble2.py  conf_rx_tx_ensemble.py  hardware_usb_new.py  hardware_usb.py

          Use the "conf_rx_ensemble2.py" file as the template for your ~/.quisk_conf.py file.
          You may have to change the name_of _sound_play and name_of_sound_capt designations in ~/.quisk_conf.py
          e.g name_of_sound_capt = "hw:1" or in some cases "plughw:1" for interfacing with the softrock as I-Q.
          name_of_sound_play = "hw:0" or "plughw:0" for Mic/Speakers.
          microphone_name = "hw:0" or "plughw:0"
          name_of_mic_play = "hw:0" or "plughw:0" for Ensemble RXTX.

          With everything in place execute "python quisk.py" and you are up and running.


          3. QTradio -- does this work? Cannot find it

          QtRadio is part of ghpsdr3-alex, glHPSDR for Android phone/tablet is available from Google Play Store.


          4. GnuRadio Companion -- Installed, runs, but no idea how to work it, looks super complicated and/or a backend for some other program to use, not to be used directly with SDR as frontend/gui.

          I don't think there is a softrock module in gnuradio and as far as I know, no one has built one using gnuradio-companion. I have been trying to get the HiQSDR module to run under gnuradio-3.6.5, it didn't work and I haven't got back to looking at it.
          May be when gnuradio 3.7 has stabilized I'll look at it again.


          Sorry for being so "dumb" on this subject, I am new to SDR, but had no problems getting Ensemble II to work under Windows XP, or the Lite II receivers, all work fine. I know plenty about Linux, but thought I'd ask this question before I spend hours reading crap and making my hair even more gray:

          The big question: Am I barking up the wrong tree? Do ANY of the popular software packages for the Softrock work under OpenSuse 12.3 or should I be trying an older version of Opensuse? I have install DVD's for 9, 10, and 11, as I have been using Opensuse for webserver duties for a long time now, years and years.

          I am spoiled to HDSDR in Windows, it just "works" and looks so nice. Would like something similar that will work under Linux (X86_64).

          Thanks in advance.

          Not dumb at all, all the questions have been very reasonably put and answerable.
          I use openSUSE 13.1 Milestone 4 x86_64, Kubuntu x86_64 and Ubuntu ARM all 13.04 and I have built and set up quisk on Mint for a friend to use with his Ensemble RXTX.
          ARM boxes here are Pandaboard, Beaglebone and ODROID-X - awaiting delivery of the Parallela Supercomputer board to play SDR on.

          openSUSE and I go all the way back to 6.0 and Ubuntu since maybe 8.10 or 9.04, SLS (the first Linux distro), Slackware, RedHat, CentOS, Mint, etc. ..... I've done most of them standalone or running on openSUSE under VirtualBox.

          If it's Linux I am happy with it and I would say the same about any of the dozen or more OS's I have worked with in my time, though quite a few expletives have aired when dealing with Solaris as part of the day job before retirement and also with the Ultra SPARC5 and the Sun Enterprise E4500 I have here at home.
          IBM's z/OS, z/VM and their forerunners, Amdahl UTS (Unix on Mainframes) were all as much fun as Linux is.
          On Mainframes and SPARC, Linux appeared the same as Linux running on a PC.
          73 ... Sid.

           

           

          -- 
          Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
          Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
          Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
          Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks

           



          -- 
          Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
          Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
          Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
          Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks

           

        • MIKE DURKIN
          middle of the page .... Have you seen this page yet ?? http://sdr-kits.net/QRP2000_Description.html Mike KC7NOA To: softrock40@yahoogroups.com From:
          Message 4 of 14 , Aug 22, 2013
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            middle of the page ....

            Have you seen this page yet ??

            http://sdr-kits.net/QRP2000_Description.html

            Mike KC7NOA


            To: softrock40@yahoogroups.com
            From: mparkinson1@...
            Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:45:22 -0700
            Subject: RE: [softrock40] Softrock + opensuse 12.3 linux

             

            Well

            I guess I didn’t .

            Where is it so I can install it.

            Thanks again

            MP

             

            From: softrock40@yahoogroups.com [mailto:softrock40@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of MIKE DURKIN
            Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 5:22 PM
            To: softrock
            Subject: RE: [softrock40] Softrock + opensuse 12.3 linux

             

             

            Windows .. did you install the certification certificate for the controller ?


            To: softrock40@yahoogroups.com
            From: mparkinson1@...
            Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 16:46:01 -0700
            Subject: RE: [softrock40] Softrock + opensuse 12.3 linux

             

             

            I recently purchase a softrock 40 sdr receiver.

            I can use it in my old XP computer no problem at all .

            However using in my window 7 computer the damn thing won’t work at all.

            The new computer doesn’t see it doesn’t even know its there.

            I am using Rocky the same version on the XP .

            Can someone shine some light on this thanks.

            MP

             

            From: softrock40@yahoogroups.com [mailto:softrock40@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Sid Boyce
            Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:29 AM
            To: softrock40@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [softrock40] Softrock + opensuse 12.3 linux

             

             

            The only problem it used to have was needing -lbusb-1.0 added to some Makefiles but that was an easy local fix, fixed upstream some time ago.
            Qt-5 always worked, just needed a slight mod to QtRadio.pro. I used the Qt5 development repository which has been around in openSUSE for quite some time.

            Currently libortp is a later version than that used by Ubuntu and ghpsdr3-alex under openSUSE requires the patch I posted to the sdr-widget group a few weeks back - the ghpsdr3-alex code needed an additional port defined, 4 files affected in dspserver, Dttsp and QtRadio.
            The Ubuntu version needs only RTP_PORT defined but the openSUSE one needs RTP_PORT and RTCP_PORT.
             
            The same issue will hit Ubuntu when they upgrade ortp.
            73 ... Sid.

            On 22/08/13 16:23, MIKE DURKIN wrote:

             

            Hey Sid ...

            Does ghpsdr3-alex compile on opensuse now?

            I seem to think that i rememebr that Qt5.1 had issues on opensuse ...

            Least they seem to have the max98090 kernel right .... i think.

            Mike KC7NOA


            To: softrock40@yahoogroups.com
            From: sboyce@...
            Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:20:41 +0100
            Subject: Re: [softrock40] Softrock + opensuse 12.3 linux

             

             

            Comments embedded.

            On 22/08/13 04:30, kf5jmd@... wrote:

             

            Ok, so I have working lite II receiver, works fine under Windows. Tried to hook it up to a brand new install opensuse 12.3 linux machine, can't find any SDR software that works.

            1. GHPSDR pops up a window that says cannot locate Ozy. I have no idea what Ozy is.

            May be you are using John Melton's ghpsdr or ghpsdr3, you need ghpsdr3-alex
            http://napan.ca/ghpsdr3/index.php/Main_Page
            This supplies many servers for many SDR's including the "softrock" server - talks to the SDR.
            "dspserver" which puts the server on the internet.
            "QtRadio" is the client that can connect locally to 127.0.0.1 or across your LAN to the IP address running dspserver or across the internet using QtRadio or glHPSDR running on an Android phone or tablet.

            You can see who and what's currently online by going to http://qtradio.napan.ca/qtradio/qtradio.pl

            2. Quisk says Traceback (most recent call last):
            File "./quisk", line 3, in <module>
            import quisk # May be quisk.py or package quisk
            File "/home/cschmidt/software/quisk/quisk/quisk.py", line 34, in <module>
            import _quisk as QS
            ImportError: ./_quisk.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32

            My system is 64 bit, not sure if it will work at all...

            The latest is quisk-3.6.12 at james.ahlstrom.name/quisk/
            One exploded - "tar zxfv quisk-3.6.12.tar.gz"
            "cd quisk-3.6.12" then run make.
            Pre-reqs
            -------------
            sudo apt-get install libfftw3-dev libasound2-dev libportaudio2 portaudio19-dev libncurses5-dev libwxbase2.8-0 libwxgtk2.8-0 python-wxgtk2.8 python-wxversion libusb-dev python2.7-dev

            In the softrock subdirectory
            # ls /opt/quisk-3.6.12/softrock/
            conf_fixed.py  conf_rx_ensemble2.py  conf_rx_tx_ensemble.py  hardware_usb_new.py  hardware_usb.py

            Use the "conf_rx_ensemble2.py" file as the template for your ~/.quisk_conf.py file.
            You may have to change the name_of _sound_play and name_of_sound_capt designations in ~/.quisk_conf.py
            e.g name_of_sound_capt = "hw:1" or in some cases "plughw:1" for interfacing with the softrock as I-Q.
            name_of_sound_play = "hw:0" or "plughw:0" for Mic/Speakers.
            microphone_name = "hw:0" or "plughw:0"
            name_of_mic_play = "hw:0" or "plughw:0" for Ensemble RXTX.

            With everything in place execute "python quisk.py" and you are up and running.


            3. QTradio -- does this work? Cannot find it

            QtRadio is part of ghpsdr3-alex, glHPSDR for Android phone/tablet is available from Google Play Store.


            4. GnuRadio Companion -- Installed, runs, but no idea how to work it, looks super complicated and/or a backend for some other program to use, not to be used directly with SDR as frontend/gui.

            I don't think there is a softrock module in gnuradio and as far as I know, no one has built one using gnuradio-companion. I have been trying to get the HiQSDR module to run under gnuradio-3.6.5, it didn't work and I haven't got back to looking at it.
            May be when gnuradio 3.7 has stabilized I'll look at it again.


            Sorry for being so "dumb" on this subject, I am new to SDR, but had no problems getting Ensemble II to work under Windows XP, or the Lite II receivers, all work fine. I know plenty about Linux, but thought I'd ask this question before I spend hours reading crap and making my hair even more gray:

            The big question: Am I barking up the wrong tree? Do ANY of the popular software packages for the Softrock work under OpenSuse 12.3 or should I be trying an older version of Opensuse? I have install DVD's for 9, 10, and 11, as I have been using Opensuse for webserver duties for a long time now, years and years.

            I am spoiled to HDSDR in Windows, it just "works" and looks so nice. Would like something similar that will work under Linux (X86_64).

            Thanks in advance.

            Not dumb at all, all the questions have been very reasonably put and answerable.
            I use openSUSE 13.1 Milestone 4 x86_64, Kubuntu x86_64 and Ubuntu ARM all 13.04 and I have built and set up quisk on Mint for a friend to use with his Ensemble RXTX.
            ARM boxes here are Pandaboard, Beaglebone and ODROID-X - awaiting delivery of the Parallela Supercomputer board to play SDR on.

            openSUSE and I go all the way back to 6.0 and Ubuntu since maybe 8.10 or 9.04, SLS (the first Linux distro), Slackware, RedHat, CentOS, Mint, etc. ..... I've done most of them standalone or running on openSUSE under VirtualBox.

            If it's Linux I am happy with it and I would say the same about any of the dozen or more OS's I have worked with in my time, though quite a few expletives have aired when dealing with Solaris as part of the day job before retirement and also with the Ultra SPARC5 and the Sun Enterprise E4500 I have here at home.
            IBM's z/OS, z/VM and their forerunners, Amdahl UTS (Unix on Mainframes) were all as much fun as Linux is.
            On Mainframes and SPARC, Linux appeared the same as Linux running on a PC.
            73 ... Sid.

             

             

            -- 
            Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
            Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
            Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
            Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks

             



            -- 
            Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
            Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
            Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
            Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks

             


          • Alan
            ... Subject: RE: [softrock40] Softrock + opensuse 12.3 linux ... What version Softrock? One with USB? What size? Or is it Rocky not working on W7? Not unusual.
            Message 5 of 14 , Aug 22, 2013
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              ----- Original Message -----
              Subject: RE: [softrock40] Softrock + opensuse 12.3 linux


              >I recently purchase a softrock 40 sdr receiver.
              >
              > I can use it in my old XP computer no problem at all .
              >
              > However using in my window 7 computer the damn thing won't work at all.
              >
              > The new computer doesn't see it doesn't even know its there.
              >
              > I am using Rocky the same version on the XP .
              >

              What version Softrock? One with USB? What size?
              Or is it Rocky not working on W7? Not unusual. There was a version of Rocky intended for W7 but that was not always successful. Try
              something else.

              73 Alan G4ZFQ
            • Alan
              If it is a USB Softrock this is where to get the driver Check Fred s page at the install the PC driver section. http://pe0fko.nl/SR-V9-Si570/#install 73
              Message 6 of 14 , Aug 22, 2013
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                If it is a USB Softrock this is where to get the driver

                Check Fred's page at the "install the PC driver" section.
                http://pe0fko.nl/SR-V9-Si570/#install

                73 Alan G4ZFQ


                ----- Original Message -----
                From: "MIKE DURKIN" <Patriot121@...>
                To: "softrock" <softrock40@yahoogroups.com>
                Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 2:32 AM
                Subject: RE: [softrock40] Softrock + opensuse 12.3 linux


                middle of the page ....

                Have you seen this page yet ??

                http://sdr-kits.net/QRP2000_Description.html
              • shimp_2g
                Thanks Sid for the great help. I got it working with WebSDR on my local network and have been playing with that for now, which is why I have the Lite II
                Message 7 of 14 , Aug 23, 2013
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                  Thanks Sid for the great help. I got it working with WebSDR on my local network and have been playing with that for now, which is why I have the Lite II receivers, I plan on eventually putting 4 of them online for the WWW. So getting it to work with a "local" client is not that big of a deal for now anyway, I build them, then test them on my XP machine with HDSDR. Eventually going to get the other 2 built (2 built so far, 20M,40M) and put them all in one box and get the WebSDR running with all 4. I have a RX Ensemble II HF version that I use on my XP machine, works great, will order another to build for LF soon too.

                  I AM having some problems with the sound drivers. The onboard is Realtek ALC662, and I do have it working, but it's noisy (seems alot noisier than my XP machine with ALC882). Will post up or contact you directly (since it's linux) once I get more into messing with the sound drivers. Looking to get 2 192K cards, like Xonar DS or DX/DS combo for this linux machine.

                  The WebSDR on my local network is nice because I can monitor 4 bands at one time, and not worry about Internet usage using other peoples servers, and I don't think there is another one in TX, I will be the only one in Texas once it finally goes live.

                  Thanks again,

                  Chris
                  KF5JMD


                  --- In softrock40@yahoogroups.com, Sid Boyce <sboyce@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Comments embedded.
                  >
                  > On 22/08/13 04:30, kf5jmd@... wrote:
                  > >
                  > > Ok, so I have working lite II receiver, works fine under Windows.
                  > > Tried to hook it up to a brand new install opensuse 12.3 linux
                  > > machine, can't find any SDR software that works.
                  > >
                  > > 1. GHPSDR pops up a window that says cannot locate Ozy. I have no idea
                  > > what Ozy is.
                  > >
                  > May be you are using John Melton's ghpsdr or ghpsdr3, you need ghpsdr3-alex
                  > http://napan.ca/ghpsdr3/index.php/Main_Page
                  > This supplies many servers for many SDR's including the "softrock"
                  > server - talks to the SDR.
                  > "dspserver" which puts the server on the internet.
                  > "QtRadio" is the client that can connect locally to 127.0.0.1 or across
                  > your LAN to the IP address running dspserver or across the internet
                  > using QtRadio or glHPSDR running on an Android phone or tablet.
                  >
                  > You can see who and what's currently online by going to
                  > http://qtradio.napan.ca/qtradio/qtradio.pl
                  >
                  > > 2. Quisk says Traceback (most recent call last):
                  > > File "./quisk", line 3, in <module>
                  > > import quisk # May be quisk.py or package quisk
                  > > File "/home/cschmidt/software/quisk/quisk/quisk.py", line 34, in <module>
                  > > import _quisk as QS
                  > > ImportError: ./_quisk.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
                  > >
                  > > My system is 64 bit, not sure if it will work at all...
                  > >
                  > The latest is quisk-3.6.12 at james.ahlstrom.name/quisk/
                  > One exploded - "tar zxfv quisk-3.6.12.tar.gz"
                  > "cd quisk-3.6.12" then run make.
                  > Pre-reqs
                  > -------------
                  > sudo apt-get install libfftw3-dev libasound2-dev libportaudio2
                  > portaudio19-dev libncurses5-dev libwxbase2.8-0 libwxgtk2.8-0
                  > python-wxgtk2.8 python-wxversion libusb-dev python2.7-dev
                  >
                  > In the softrock subdirectory
                  > # ls /opt/quisk-3.6.12/softrock/
                  > conf_fixed.py conf_rx_ensemble2.py conf_rx_tx_ensemble.py
                  > hardware_usb_new.py hardware_usb.py
                  >
                  > Use the "conf_rx_ensemble2.py" file as the template for your
                  > ~/.quisk_conf.py file.
                  > You may have to change the name_of _sound_play and name_of_sound_capt
                  > designations in ~/.quisk_conf.py
                  > e.g name_of_sound_capt = "hw:1" or in some cases "plughw:1" for
                  > interfacing with the softrock as I-Q.
                  > name_of_sound_play = "hw:0" or "plughw:0" for Mic/Speakers.
                  > microphone_name = "hw:0" or "plughw:0"
                  > name_of_mic_play = "hw:0" or "plughw:0" for Ensemble RXTX.
                  >
                  > With everything in place execute "python quisk.py" and you are up and
                  > running.
                  >
                  > >
                  > > 3. QTradio -- does this work? Cannot find it
                  > >
                  > QtRadio is part of ghpsdr3-alex, glHPSDR for Android phone/tablet is
                  > available from Google Play Store.
                  >
                  > >
                  > > 4. GnuRadio Companion -- Installed, runs, but no idea how to work it,
                  > > looks super complicated and/or a backend for some other program to
                  > > use, not to be used directly with SDR as frontend/gui.
                  > >
                  > I don't think there is a softrock module in gnuradio and as far as I
                  > know, no one has built one using gnuradio-companion. I have been trying
                  > to get the HiQSDR module to run under gnuradio-3.6.5, it didn't work and
                  > I haven't got back to looking at it.
                  > May be when gnuradio 3.7 has stabilized I'll look at it again.
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Sorry for being so "dumb" on this subject, I am new to SDR, but had no
                  > > problems getting Ensemble II to work under Windows XP, or the Lite II
                  > > receivers, all work fine. I know plenty about Linux, but thought I'd
                  > > ask this question before I spend hours reading crap and making my hair
                  > > even more gray:
                  > >
                  > > The big question: Am I barking up the wrong tree? Do ANY of the
                  > > popular software packages for the Softrock work under OpenSuse 12.3 or
                  > > should I be trying an older version of Opensuse? I have install DVD's
                  > > for 9, 10, and 11, as I have been using Opensuse for webserver duties
                  > > for a long time now, years and years.
                  > >
                  > > I am spoiled to HDSDR in Windows, it just "works" and looks so nice.
                  > > Would like something similar that will work under Linux (X86_64).
                  > >
                  > > Thanks in advance.
                  > >
                  > Not dumb at all, all the questions have been very reasonably put and
                  > answerable.
                  > I use openSUSE 13.1 Milestone 4 x86_64, Kubuntu x86_64 and Ubuntu ARM
                  > all 13.04 and I have built and set up quisk on Mint for a friend to use
                  > with his Ensemble RXTX.
                  > ARM boxes here are Pandaboard, Beaglebone and ODROID-X - awaiting
                  > delivery of the Parallela Supercomputer board to play SDR on.
                  >
                  > openSUSE and I go all the way back to 6.0 and Ubuntu since maybe 8.10 or
                  > 9.04, SLS (the first Linux distro), Slackware, RedHat, CentOS, Mint,
                  > etc. ..... I've done most of them standalone or running on openSUSE
                  > under VirtualBox.
                  >
                  > If it's Linux I am happy with it and I would say the same about any of
                  > the dozen or more OS's I have worked with in my time, though quite a few
                  > expletives have aired when dealing with Solaris as part of the day job
                  > before retirement and also with the Ultra SPARC5 and the Sun Enterprise
                  > E4500 I have here at home.
                  > IBM's z/OS, z/VM and their forerunners, Amdahl UTS (Unix on Mainframes)
                  > were all as much fun as Linux is.
                  > On Mainframes and SPARC, Linux appeared the same as Linux running on a PC.
                  > 73 ... Sid.
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  >
                  >
                  > --
                  > Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
                  > Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
                  > Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
                  > Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
                  >
                • Sid Boyce
                  Hi Chris, that card should work. Please post the results of these 2 commands cat /proc/asound/cards lsmod|grep snd which show these 3 modules loaded
                  Message 8 of 14 , Aug 23, 2013
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                    Hi Chris, that card should work.
                    Please post the results of these 2 commands
                    "cat /proc/asound/cards"

                    "lsmod|grep snd" which show these 3 modules loaded
                    snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
                    73 ... Sid.

                    On 23/08/13 08:31, kf5jmd@... wrote:
                     

                    Thanks Sid for the great help. I got it working with WebSDR on my local network and have been playing with that for now, which is why I have the Lite II receivers, I plan on eventually putting 4 of them online for the WWW. So getting it to work with a "local" client is not that big of a deal for now anyway, I build them, then test them on my XP machine with HDSDR. Eventually going to get the other 2 built (2 built so far, 20M,40M) and put them all in one box and get the WebSDR running with all 4. I have a RX Ensemble II HF version that I use on my XP machine, works great, will order another to build for LF soon too.

                    I AM having some problems with the sound drivers. The onboard is Realtek ALC662, and I do have it working, but it's noisy (seems alot noisier than my XP machine with ALC882). Will post up or contact you directly (since it's linux) once I get more into messing with the sound drivers. Looking to get 2 192K cards, like Xonar DS or DX/DS combo for this linux machine.

                    The WebSDR on my local network is nice because I can monitor 4 bands at one time, and not worry about Internet usage using other peoples servers, and I don't think there is another one in TX, I will be the only one in Texas once it finally goes live.

                    Thanks again,

                    Chris
                    KF5JMD

                    --- In softrock40@yahoogroups.com, Sid Boyce <sboyce@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > Comments embedded.
                    >
                    > On 22/08/13 04:30, kf5jmd@... wrote:
                    > >
                    > > Ok, so I have working lite II receiver, works fine under Windows.
                    > > Tried to hook it up to a brand new install opensuse 12.3 linux
                    > > machine, can't find any SDR software that works.
                    > >
                    > > 1. GHPSDR pops up a window that says cannot locate Ozy. I have no idea
                    > > what Ozy is.
                    > >
                    > May be you are using John Melton's ghpsdr or ghpsdr3, you need ghpsdr3-alex
                    > http://napan.ca/ghpsdr3/index.php/Main_Page
                    > This supplies many servers for many SDR's including the "softrock"
                    > server - talks to the SDR.
                    > "dspserver" which puts the server on the internet.
                    > "QtRadio" is the client that can connect locally to 127.0.0.1 or across
                    > your LAN to the IP address running dspserver or across the internet
                    > using QtRadio or glHPSDR running on an Android phone or tablet.
                    >
                    > You can see who and what's currently online by going to
                    > http://qtradio.napan.ca/qtradio/qtradio.pl
                    >
                    > > 2. Quisk says Traceback (most recent call last):
                    > > File "./quisk", line 3, in <module>
                    > > import quisk # May be quisk.py or package quisk
                    > > File "/home/cschmidt/software/quisk/quisk/quisk.py", line 34, in <module>
                    > > import _quisk as QS
                    > > ImportError: ./_quisk.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32
                    > >
                    > > My system is 64 bit, not sure if it will work at all...
                    > >
                    > The latest is quisk-3.6.12 at james.ahlstrom.name/quisk/
                    > One exploded - "tar zxfv quisk-3.6.12.tar.gz"
                    > "cd quisk-3.6.12" then run make.
                    > Pre-reqs
                    > -------------
                    > sudo apt-get install libfftw3-dev libasound2-dev libportaudio2
                    > portaudio19-dev libncurses5-dev libwxbase2.8-0 libwxgtk2.8-0
                    > python-wxgtk2.8 python-wxversion libusb-dev python2.7-dev
                    >
                    > In the softrock subdirectory
                    > # ls /opt/quisk-3.6.12/softrock/
                    > conf_fixed.py conf_rx_ensemble2.py conf_rx_tx_ensemble.py
                    > hardware_usb_new.py hardware_usb.py
                    >
                    > Use the "conf_rx_ensemble2.py" file as the template for your
                    > ~/.quisk_conf.py file.
                    > You may have to change the name_of _sound_play and name_of_sound_capt
                    > designations in ~/.quisk_conf.py
                    > e.g name_of_sound_capt = "hw:1" or in some cases "plughw:1" for
                    > interfacing with the softrock as I-Q.
                    > name_of_sound_play = "hw:0" or "plughw:0" for Mic/Speakers.
                    > microphone_name = "hw:0" or "plughw:0"
                    > name_of_mic_play = "hw:0" or "plughw:0" for Ensemble RXTX.
                    >
                    > With everything in place execute "python quisk.py" and you are up and
                    > running.
                    >
                    > >
                    > > 3. QTradio -- does this work? Cannot find it
                    > >
                    > QtRadio is part of ghpsdr3-alex, glHPSDR for Android phone/tablet is
                    > available from Google Play Store.
                    >
                    > >
                    > > 4. GnuRadio Companion -- Installed, runs, but no idea how to work it,
                    > > looks super complicated and/or a backend for some other program to
                    > > use, not to be used directly with SDR as frontend/gui.
                    > >
                    > I don't think there is a softrock module in gnuradio and as far as I
                    > know, no one has built one using gnuradio-companion. I have been trying
                    > to get the HiQSDR module to run under gnuradio-3.6.5, it didn't work and
                    > I haven't got back to looking at it.
                    > May be when gnuradio 3.7 has stabilized I'll look at it again.
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > Sorry for being so "dumb" on this subject, I am new to SDR, but had no
                    > > problems getting Ensemble II to work under Windows XP, or the Lite II
                    > > receivers, all work fine. I know plenty about Linux, but thought I'd
                    > > ask this question before I spend hours reading crap and making my hair
                    > > even more gray:
                    > >
                    > > The big question: Am I barking up the wrong tree? Do ANY of the
                    > > popular software packages for the Softrock work under OpenSuse 12.3 or
                    > > should I be trying an older version of Opensuse? I have install DVD's
                    > > for 9, 10, and 11, as I have been using Opensuse for webserver duties
                    > > for a long time now, years and years.
                    > >
                    > > I am spoiled to HDSDR in Windows, it just "works" and looks so nice.
                    > > Would like something similar that will work under Linux (X86_64).
                    > >
                    > > Thanks in advance.
                    > >
                    > Not dumb at all, all the questions have been very reasonably put and
                    > answerable.
                    > I use openSUSE 13.1 Milestone 4 x86_64, Kubuntu x86_64 and Ubuntu ARM
                    > all 13.04 and I have built and set up quisk on Mint for a friend to use
                    > with his Ensemble RXTX.
                    > ARM boxes here are Pandaboard, Beaglebone and ODROID-X - awaiting
                    > delivery of the Parallela Supercomputer board to play SDR on.
                    >
                    > openSUSE and I go all the way back to 6.0 and Ubuntu since maybe 8.10 or
                    > 9.04, SLS (the first Linux distro), Slackware, RedHat, CentOS, Mint,
                    > etc. ..... I've done most of them standalone or running on openSUSE
                    > under VirtualBox.
                    >
                    > If it's Linux I am happy with it and I would say the same about any of
                    > the dozen or more OS's I have worked with in my time, though quite a few
                    > expletives have aired when dealing with Solaris as part of the day job
                    > before retirement and also with the Ultra SPARC5 and the Sun Enterprise
                    > E4500 I have here at home.
                    > IBM's z/OS, z/VM and their forerunners, Amdahl UTS (Unix on Mainframes)
                    > were all as much fun as Linux is.
                    > On Mainframes and SPARC, Linux appeared the same as Linux running on a PC.
                    > 73 ... Sid.
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    >
                    >
                    > --
                    > Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
                    > Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
                    > Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
                    > Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
                    >



                    -- 
                    Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
                    Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
                    Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
                    Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
                    
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