Re: PowerSDR for Linux?
- Yeasu has gone through this with the 9000 operating upgrades.
Do not own a 9000 but have talked to OM that have been through the upgrades and I believe it has generated a lot of tech calls and headaches due to different OS and user capabilities.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Sid Boyce <sboyce@...> wrote:
> One of the first articles I read on SDR was in QST and on the web. It
> argued that the reason the big manufacturers shy away from SDR is the
> fact that it will cause them problems with customers altering settings
> and escalate the number of support calls they have to deal with. The
> antidote to that, suggested a switch that reset the rig to defaults.
> OK, but that still may have calls flood in asking why customers'
> particular settings won't work - probably a minefield, then again they
> could enter the market with a SDR that disallowed customer reconfiguration.
> Other thoughts, if a rig could be reconfigured and upgraded via a
> firmware download, they'd sell fewer units.
> One day someone will jump in with a product that threatens the Japanese
> manufacturers - India, China and may be even the US or Europe (a-la
> Airbus). With their dominance, the Japanese manufacturers are likely to
> milk until the cow runs dry.
> If Flex radios were half the price they would shift considerably more
> units, possibly growing market share to the point where current
> manufacturers would feel the heat.
> I don't yet know the likely price of Hermes with all the HPSDR boards
> de-bulked and fitted on one board, but I bet it will be considerably
> lower than current HPSDR and Flex radios.
> 73 ... Sid.
> On 03/08/10 07:56, Jeff Blaine wrote:
> > Gentlemen,
> > At the end of the day, development must be funded if it is going to be a
> > wide-scale project. Collaborative efforts are great but at some point,
> > guys need to pay for houses and kids college education and they don't do
> > that by giving away their time - which is really what's happening in the
> > case of an open source project.
> > This may work with some types of businesses, but for the SDR, where the
> > absolute end goal is to minimize the world of hardware down to a super
> > high performance ADC, the amount of hardware revenue may never cover
> > adequately the living needs of the developers. Especially if that super
> > high performance ADC comes at a 50% price cut every year on an
> > equivalent performance basis normalized metric.
> > I think this is why you don't see a migration by the big 3 Japanese
> > players or 2 US makers into the SDR market challenging Flex. How would
> > they make money building progressively simpler and cheaper radios for a
> > more or less flat market audience headcount - where the key value added
> > feature (PSDR) is already being given away? Flex has enough challenges,
> > I would guess, just sustaining their momentum now. The performance of
> > SDR is not lost on the other makers of rigs. The question is how to
> > utilize SDR in a way that pays the bills???
> > You are right - SDR is arguably the wave of the future. However, the
> > real qualification of that statement needs to read "SDR - in some form
> > of a profitable and sustainable competitive venture" - is the wave of
> > the future.
> > Despite claims to the contrary, real radios with knobs are going to be
> > around for a very long time to come. As long as interfaces are available
> > free of charge, growing in number and in quality - and when existing
> > hardware as minimal as the softrock for $15 can bring the majority of
> > performance vs. the big boys, the business future of SDR as a whole -
> > and as a result the availability of commercial rigs - has got to be a
> > big question mark.
> > 73/jeff/ac0c
> > www.ac0c.com <http://www.ac0c.com>
> > *From:* Sid Boyce <mailto:sboyce@...>
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 03, 2010 12:45 AM
> > *To:* email@example.com <mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org>
> > *Subject:* Re: [softrock40] Re: PowerSDR for Linux?
> > Have another look Graeme at the page and see the possibility they are
> > building a walled garden.
> > There are other successful companies that open their software and
> > benefit greatly from it. It's not as though they have any serious rivals
> > or any rivals at all that could use their code as a short cut and impact
> > their sales - though HPSDR Hermes has the potential to sideline Flex
> > products if some smart manufacturer decides to supply a Hermes based
> > radio under license from TAPR with new open source firmware and
> > software. I'm sure such a radio could be made available at less than
> > half the price of Flex-Radio products and set SDR as the standard - not
> > only Flex, but the whole market could be shaken up.
> > It will happen, the knobs and switches will disappear. I'm hoarding both
> > for when that day comes and I have a need for them for some old piece of
> > gear.
> > Imagine them opening up their code and having talented developers across
> > the globe turning it into something more flexible and substantial and
> > dramatically cutting their development costs into the bargain with no
> > loss of control.
> > 73 ... Sid.
> > On 03/08/10 02:14, Graeme wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Justin,
> > >
> > > Thanks for that posting. I hadn't run across that before. Yes it sure
> > > looks like it will run on Linux but they said the same thing about
> > > Power-SDR and it is still vapor ware at present. It also hints at being
> > > more advanced than PSDR and I suspect targeted to the Flex series
> > > radios. They are a commercial organisation and need to make a living. It
> > > just happens they were generous enough with PSDR to share the software
> > > and make provision for softrock style radios. They are certainly under
> > > no obligation to repeat this generosity with the new model. I think if
> > > Linux users want a softrock targeted SDR they will probably need to
> > > develop their own.
> > >
> > > Craig I would like to thank you for bringing this topic up. very
> > > stimulating.
> > >
> > > 73 Graeme ZL2APV
> > >
> > > --- In email@example.com
> > <mailto:softrock40%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:softrock40%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > Justin Pinnix <justin@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Why all the crazy speculation when the answer is right there on Flex's
> > > > website?: http://flex-radio.com/Products.aspx?topic=faq#q1-di
> > <http://flex-radio.com/Products.aspx?topic=faq#q1-di>
> > > >
> > > > Deep Impact is being developed on Linux. You can bet it's going to run
> > > > there. They have also promised that it will run on Windows, as they
> > don't
> > > > want to alienate the much larger set of customers who are going to
> > > want to
> > > > run it there.
> > > >
> > > > 73 de AJ4MJ
> > > >
> Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
> Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
> Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach
> Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
- On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:13 AM, Jonathan Marsden N6JU <jmarsden@...> wrote:
Lastly, if you are genuinely aiming to get packages into Ubuntu, using IRC to talk to the MOTU folks who hang out in the #ubuntu-motu channel on irc.freenode.net is a great way to get your questions answered. I have found them to be friendly and helpful to people who (like me!) are genuinely trying to get software packaged for Ubuntu, or to fix issues in existing Ubuntu software. If you are creating packages just for your own use, or for a PPA, which you never intend to work on to good enough to go into Ubuntu, then it's somewhat impolite to ask for much of their time.There is also the Ubuntu-hams team as a resource. We have some people with some packaging experience, although not the level of experience that you find on the packaging-specific lists and IRC channels. There's a lot of collective knowledge about various ham applications for Debian and Ubuntu, so feel free to drop in.#ubuntu-hams on freenodeI'm a recent subscriber to this list, having just started on the Softrock Ensemble RX/TX board.73, Steve Conklin, A!4QR