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  • jr_dakota
    ... When you look at the **measured** specs of Tasa s designs they rate right up there with the FST designs I ve seen measured right up to 30 Mhz .... The use
    Message 1 of 26 , Nov 2, 2009
      --- In softrock40@yahoogroups.com, Robert Brown <robbrown@...> wrote:
      >
      > Please don't take this as a snipe at the competition...
      >
      > The G3020 doesn't look as good as the Softrock. The mixer is 74HC4066,
      > which has a lower spec than the FST type, the pre-amps used are
      > NE5534, which again are lower spec than the LTC ones.
      >
      > IMHO the Genesis is a way behind the Softrock. Far too many bulky
      > through hole components for my liking, and no 3rd party add-on kits
      > (yet).
      >
      > 73s,
      > Rob
      > (M0RZF)
      >

      When you look at the **measured** specs of Tasa's designs they rate right up there with the FST designs I've seen measured right up to 30 Mhz .... The use of through hole parts and the 74HC4066 and NE5534 was intentional so everyone around the world had a shot at making one .... Tasa also has some SM designs that use a 74LVC components and designs with AD797 opamps .... I believe the lack of SMT parts was intentional, the target audience is different than the Softrocks and they aren't trying to compete, just expand the involvement in SDR to people who have been left out due to lack of experience in building or poor eyesight

      Tasa takes nothing for granted, he doesn't just hypothesize that his design is going to perform better because he used 'X' component, they are built, documented, and measured ... If you read everything on his website I guarantee you will learn something you didn't know .... Anyone who has been working with QSD's the last 7-8 years has been influenced by Tasa's work whether they realize it or not

      http://yu1lm.qrpradio.com/

      And don't forget to thank K5NWA next time you see him for hosting this site ... Come to think of it didn't he host some stuff for the Softrocks too a few years back?

      JR
    • k5nwa
      ... His site has more downloads that all my other sites put together, I m glad he is going to make new designs, we need variety. Cecil k5nwa
      Message 2 of 26 , Nov 2, 2009
        At 05:38 AM 11/2/2009, you wrote:
         
        When you look at the **measured** specs of Tasa's designs they rate right up there with the FST designs I've seen measured right up to 30 Mhz .... The use of through hole parts and the 74HC4066 and NE5534 was intentional so everyone around the world had a shot at making one .... Tasa also has some SM designs that use a 74LVC components and designs with AD797 opamps .... I believe the lack of SMT parts was intentional, the target audience is different than the Softrocks and they aren't trying to compete, just expand the involvement in SDR to people who have been left out due to lack of experience in building or poor eyesight

        Tasa takes nothing for granted, he doesn't just hypothesize that his design is going to perform better because he used 'X' component, they are built, documented, and measured ... If you read everything on his website I guarantee you will learn something you didn't know .... Anyone who has been working with QSD's the last 7-8 years has been influenced by Tasa's work whether they realize it or not

        http://yu1lm.qrpradio.com/

        And don't forget to thank  K5NWA next time you see him for hosting this site  ... Come to think of it didn't he host some stuff for the Softrocks too a few years back?

        JR


        His site has more downloads that all my other sites put together, I'm glad he is going to make new designs, we need variety.

        Cecil
        k5nwa
        www.softrockradio.org www.qrpradio.com
        http://parts.softrockradio.org/  >

        Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.

      • Graeme
        Hi Rob, Some good thoughts here and of course it is not possible to move forward in technology if you don t look at all the aspects of a design so I would like
        Message 3 of 26 , Nov 2, 2009
          Hi Rob,

          Some good thoughts here and of course it is not possible to move forward in technology if you don't look at all the aspects of a design so I would like to make a few comments...


          --- In softrock40@yahoogroups.com, Robert Brown <robbrown@...> wrote:
          >
          > Please don't take this as a snipe at the competition...
          >
          Having an honest appraisal is not seen by any fair minded person as a snipe and I certainly don't see you as sniping. However I guess you do not use the word competition in its true context but rather as indication of another approach.

          > The G3020 doesn't look as good as the Softrock. The mixer is 74HC4066,
          > which has a lower spec than the FST type,

          Yes it looks this way but having a softrock and YU1LM design with the 4066 mixer side by side on my bench I can assure you there is no audio difference and the measured difference is trivial and slightly favours the 4066. Have you noticed that the low channel resistance mixers often have series resistance deliberately inserted for load purposes. Having a higher channel resistance in the 4066 tends to swallow this up.


          the pre-amps used are
          > NE5534, which again are lower spec than the LTC ones.

          Yes no doubt but again in practice there is no discernable difference and their being DIP's give an access to SDR for peopler who can't or just don't want to move to surface mount. I am sure that in future models the audio chip choices will advance and so will the Softrocks too. We are looking at a snapshot in time with the YU1LM being designed first and the Softrock following. They will leapfrog.

          >
          > IMHO the Genesis is a way behind the Softrock. Far too many bulky
          > through hole components for my liking, and no 3rd party add-on kits
          > (yet).
          >
          Yes I see you are also looking at the possibilities for the future.

          I would also mention the PSDR software which is a debate on its own. If you are working say an 80 Metre CW competition being "Rock Bound" and able to see the whole CW spectrum and nothing except your carrier frequency shifts as you tune around is a huge advantage over having an offset IF of 9 KHz or so and every time you QSY the band shifts on your screen and the stations you had mentally marked go with them. I guess the perfect receiver would allow you to select modes as an option so you don't wind up with the station you desperately want to work being right in the hum and noise of the centre frequency. Maybe I should convey this to Simon and Terry.

          If someone asked me if they should get a Genesis kit I would advise them to go for it and my response would be the same for a Softrock. For myself I like to roll my own and yes I get ideas and inspiration from both sources and others as well. All these communities have brought me light years ahead of where I would have been on my own.

          73 Graeme ZL2APV


          > 73s,
          > Rob
          > (M0RZF)
          >
        • Tom Peterson
          Does Frees have a website? Doing a google search has left me wondering.
          Message 4 of 26 , Nov 2, 2009
            Does Frees have a website? Doing a google search has left me wondering.


            R R Robson wrote:
            >
            >
            > Tom:
            >
            > Re soldering iron: you definitely want something that is
            > temperature-controlled and preferably with a grounded tip. I use the
            > Bellman 19.95 special from Frees (see
            > http://www.wb5rvz.com/sdr/sr_lite_ii/ - there is some fairly helpful
            > info on that page).
            >
            > tx es 73 de robby wb5rvz
            > What happens in the shack
            > Stays in the shack!
            >
            > ----- Original Message -----
            > *From:* Tom Peterson <mailto:tom@...>
            > *To:* softrock40@yahoogroups.com <mailto:softrock40@yahoogroups.com>
            > *Sent:* Sunday, November 01, 2009 2:28 PM
            > *Subject:* Re: [softrock40] Re:FYI Genesis Radio
            >
            >
            >
            > Having never in my life soldered a surface mount component, I'm
            > about to
            > take the plunge. I have sitting here in front of me a Softrock 80M
            > Lite
            > II to assemble. I'd be much happier if it was all nice bulky through
            > hole components, but it isn't, and it look as if more and more kit
            > are
            > going to be surface mount stuff. I've ordered a headband magnifying
            > visor already, but I suspect my old bulky RS 40W iron isn't going
            > to be
            > up to the task. What do you lot recommend for soldering surface mount
            > stuff?
            >
            > I've also got one of the little Genesis 1W 30M transmitter kits on
            > the
            > way. It just looked like it would be fun to build and play with. If
            > this 80M softrock goes well, I might have to get a 30M version to
            > compliment the Q5.
            >
            > Robert Brown wrote:
            > > IMHO the Genesis is a way behind the Softrock. Far too many bulky
            > > through hole components for my liking, and no 3rd party add-on kits
            > > (yet).
            > >
            > > 73s,
            > > Rob
            > > (M0RZF)
            > >
            > >
            > >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
            >
            >
            > No virus found in this incoming message.
            > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
            > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.43/2474 - Release Date: 11/01/09 07:38:00
            >
            >
            >
          • R R Robson
            Wishful thinking on my part, Tom --- Fry s ... From: Tom Peterson To: softrock40@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 2:59 PM Subject: Re:
            Message 5 of 26 , Nov 2, 2009
              Wishful thinking on my part, Tom --- Fry's
              ----- Original Message -----
              Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 2:59 PM
              Subject: Re: [softrock40] Re:FYI Genesis Radio

               

              Does Frees have a website? Doing a google search has left me wondering.

              R R Robson wrote:
              >
              >
              > Tom:
              >
              > Re soldering iron: you definitely want something that is
              > temperature- controlled and preferably with a grounded tip. I use the
              > Bellman 19.95 special from Frees (see
              > http://www.wb5rvz. com/sdr/sr_ lite_ii/ - there is some fairly helpful
              > info on that page).
              >
              > tx es 73 de robby wb5rvz
              > What happens in the shack
              > Stays in the shack!
              >
              > ----- Original Message -----
              > *From:* Tom Peterson <mailto:tom@galesvillefired epartment. org>
              > *To:* softrock40@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:softrock40@yahoogro ups.com>
              > *Sent:* Sunday, November 01, 2009 2:28 PM
              > *Subject:* Re: [softrock40] Re:FYI Genesis Radio
              >
              >
              >
              > Having never in my life soldered a surface mount component, I'm
              > about to
              > take the plunge. I have sitting here in front of me a Softrock 80M
              > Lite
              > II to assemble. I'd be much happier if it was all nice bulky through
              > hole components, but it isn't, and it look as if more and more kit
              > are
              > going to be surface mount stuff. I've ordered a headband magnifying
              > visor already, but I suspect my old bulky RS 40W iron isn't going
              > to be
              > up to the task. What do you lot recommend for soldering surface mount
              > stuff?
              >
              > I've also got one of the little Genesis 1W 30M transmitter kits on
              > the
              > way. It just looked like it would be fun to build and play with. If
              > this 80M softrock goes well, I might have to get a 30M version to
              > compliment the Q5.
              >
              > Robert Brown wrote:
              > > IMHO the Genesis is a way behind the Softrock. Far too many bulky
              > > through hole components for my liking, and no 3rd party add-on kits
              > > (yet).
              > >
              > > 73s,
              > > Rob
              > > (M0RZF)
              > >
              > >
              > >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
              >
              >
              > No virus found in this incoming message.
              > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
              > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.43/2474 - Release Date: 11/01/09 07:38:00
              >
              >
              >

            • Tom Hoflich
              I think you want Frys. Tom www.km5h.com www.softrockradio.org/si570 ... From: Tom Peterson Subject: Re: [softrock40] Re:FYI
              Message 6 of 26 , Nov 2, 2009
                I think you want Frys.

                Tom

                www.km5h.com


                --- On Mon, 11/2/09, Tom Peterson <tom@...> wrote:

                From: Tom Peterson <tom@...>
                Subject: Re: [softrock40] Re:FYI Genesis Radio
                To: softrock40@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 2:59 PM

                 

                Does Frees have a website? Doing a google search has left me wondering.

                R R Robson wrote:
                >
                >
                > Tom:
                >
                > Re soldering iron: you definitely want something that is
                > temperature- controlled and preferably with a grounded tip. I use the
                > Bellman 19.95 special from Frees (see
                > http://www.wb5rvz. com/sdr/sr_ lite_ii/ - there is some fairly helpful
                > info on that page).
                >
                > tx es 73 de robby wb5rvz
                > What happens in the shack
                > Stays in the shack!
                >
                > ----- Original Message -----
                > *From:* Tom Peterson <mailto:tom@galesvillefired epartment. org>
                > *To:* softrock40@yahoogro ups.com <mailto:softrock40@yahoogro ups.com>
                > *Sent:* Sunday, November 01, 2009 2:28 PM
                > *Subject:* Re: [softrock40] Re:FYI Genesis Radio
                >
                >
                >
                > Having never in my life soldered a surface mount component, I'm
                > about to
                > take the plunge. I have sitting here in front of me a Softrock 80M
                > Lite
                > II to assemble. I'd be much happier if it was all nice bulky through
                > hole components, but it isn't, and it look as if more and more kit
                > are
                > going to be surface mount stuff. I've ordered a headband magnifying
                > visor already, but I suspect my old bulky RS 40W iron isn't going
                > to be
                > up to the task. What do you lot recommend for soldering surface mount
                > stuff?
                >
                > I've also got one of the little Genesis 1W 30M transmitter kits on
                > the
                > way. It just looked like it would be fun to build and play with. If
                > this 80M softrock goes well, I might have to get a 30M version to
                > compliment the Q5.
                >
                > Robert Brown wrote:
                > > IMHO the Genesis is a way behind the Softrock. Far too many bulky
                > > through hole components for my liking, and no 3rd party add-on kits
                > > (yet).
                > >
                > > 73s,
                > > Rob
                > > (M0RZF)
                > >
                > >
                > >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                >
                > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
                >
                >
                > No virus found in this incoming message.
                > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
                > Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.43/2474 - Release Date: 11/01/09 07:38:00
                >
                >
                >

              • drmail377
                Hi Robby, you said, Bellman 19.95 special from Frees . I think you meant: Velleman VTSS5U 50W Solder Station (approx $20 at Frys)
                Message 7 of 26 , Nov 2, 2009
                  Hi Robby, you said, "Bellman 19.95 special from Frees". I think you meant:

                  Velleman VTSS5U 50W Solder Station (approx $20 at Frys)

                  http://shop1.frys.com/product/4825190;jsessionid=JgkkdKH3TaF0Y-KUZY+jHQ**.node2?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

                  Same link here:

                  http://bit.ly/2e2ET9

                  FYI, this iron is 115VAC only.

                  73's David WB4ONA

                  --- In softrock40@yahoogroups.com, "R R Robson" <rrrobson@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Tom:
                  >
                  > Re soldering iron: you definitely want something that is temperature-controlled and preferably with a grounded tip. I use the Bellman 19.95 special from Frees (see http://www.wb5rvz.com/sdr/sr_lite_ii/ - there is some fairly helpful info on that page).
                  >
                  > tx es 73 de robby wb5rvz
                  > What happens in the shack
                  > Stays in the shack!
                  > ----- Original Message -----
                  > From: Tom Peterson
                  > To: softrock40@yahoogroups.com
                  > Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 2:28 PM
                  > Subject: Re: [softrock40] Re:FYI Genesis Radio
                  >
                  >
                  > Having never in my life soldered a surface mount component, I'm about to
                  > take the plunge. I have sitting here in front of me a Softrock 80M Lite
                  > II to assemble. I'd be much happier if it was all nice bulky through
                  > hole components, but it isn't, and it look as if more and more kit are
                  > going to be surface mount stuff. I've ordered a headband magnifying
                  > visor already, but I suspect my old bulky RS 40W iron isn't going to be
                  > up to the task. What do you lot recommend for soldering surface mount
                  > stuff?
                  >
                  > I've also got one of the little Genesis 1W 30M transmitter kits on the
                  > way. It just looked like it would be fun to build and play with. If
                  > this 80M softrock goes well, I might have to get a 30M version to
                  > compliment the Q5.
                  >
                  > Robert Brown wrote:
                  > > IMHO the Genesis is a way behind the Softrock. Far too many bulky
                  > > through hole components for my liking, and no 3rd party add-on kits
                  > > (yet).
                  > >
                  > > 73s,
                  > > Rob
                  > > (M0RZF)
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  >
                • Dave - WB6DHW
                  For removing multi-pin devices, nothing beats hot air. Anyone know of a low cost controllable way. My rework station(Aoyue 968) works great, but at about
                  Message 8 of 26 , Nov 2, 2009
                    For removing multi-pin devices, nothing beats hot air. Anyone know of
                    a low cost controllable way. My rework station(Aoyue 968) works great,
                    but at about $150 is not cheap! I would like to introduce some of our
                    clubs new hams to the joys of homebrewing.

                    Dave - WB6DHW
                    <http://wb6dhw.com>

                    drmail377 wrote:
                    > Hi Robby, you said, "Bellman 19.95 special from Frees". I think you meant:
                    >
                    > Velleman VTSS5U 50W Solder Station (approx $20 at Frys)
                    >
                    > http://shop1.frys.com/product/4825190;jsessionid=JgkkdKH3TaF0Y-KUZY+jHQ**.node2?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
                    >
                    > Same link here:
                    >
                    > http://bit.ly/2e2ET9
                    >
                    > FYI, this iron is 115VAC only.
                    >
                    > 73's David WB4ONA
                    >
                    > --- In softrock40@yahoogroups.com, "R R Robson" <rrrobson@...> wrote:
                    >
                    >> Tom:
                    >>
                    >> Re soldering iron: you definitely want something that is temperature-controlled and preferably with a grounded tip. I use the Bellman 19.95 special from Frees (see http://www.wb5rvz.com/sdr/sr_lite_ii/ - there is some fairly helpful info on that page).
                    >>
                    >> tx es 73 de robby wb5rvz
                    >> What happens in the shack
                    >> Stays in the shack!
                    >> ----- Original Message -----
                    >> From: Tom Peterson
                    >> To: softrock40@yahoogroups.com
                    >> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 2:28 PM
                    >> Subject: Re: [softrock40] Re:FYI Genesis Radio
                    >>
                    >>
                    >> Having never in my life soldered a surface mount component, I'm about to
                    >> take the plunge. I have sitting here in front of me a Softrock 80M Lite
                    >> II to assemble. I'd be much happier if it was all nice bulky through
                    >> hole components, but it isn't, and it look as if more and more kit are
                    >> going to be surface mount stuff. I've ordered a headband magnifying
                    >> visor already, but I suspect my old bulky RS 40W iron isn't going to be
                    >> up to the task. What do you lot recommend for soldering surface mount
                    >> stuff?
                    >>
                    >> I've also got one of the little Genesis 1W 30M transmitter kits on the
                    >> way. It just looked like it would be fun to build and play with. If
                    >> this 80M softrock goes well, I might have to get a 30M version to
                    >> compliment the Q5.
                    >>
                    >> Robert Brown wrote:
                    >> > IMHO the Genesis is a way behind the Softrock. Far too many bulky
                    >> > through hole components for my liking, and no 3rd party add-on kits
                    >> > (yet).
                    >> >
                    >> > 73s,
                    >> > Rob
                    >> > (M0RZF)
                    >> >
                    >> >
                    >> >
                    >>
                    >>
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                  • R R Robson
                    Thanks - I keep telling folks, my momma didn t raise no typokist! That 115 VAC could be a decided disadvantage across the pond. I ll never forget years ago
                    Message 9 of 26 , Nov 3, 2009
                      Thanks - I keep telling folks, my momma didn't raise no typokist!
                       
                      That 115 VAC could be a decided disadvantage across the pond.  I'll never forget years ago when I stayed with an Italian family for a summer and brought them a gift: a beautiful GE clock radio (115 VAC 60 Hz - analog clock).  Lost 10 minutes each hour!

                      tx es 73 de robby wb5rvz
                      What happens in the shack
                      Stays in the shack!
                      ----- Original Message -----
                      From: drmail377
                      Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 12:11 AM
                      Subject: [softrock40] Re:FYI Genesis Radio

                       

                      Hi Robby, you said, "Bellman 19.95 special from Frees". I think you meant:

                      Velleman VTSS5U 50W Solder Station (approx $20 at Frys)

                      http://shop1. frys.com/ product/4825190; jsessionid= JgkkdKH3TaF0Y- KUZY+jHQ* *.node2?site= sr:SEARCH: MAIN_RSLT_ PG

                      Same link here:

                      http://bit.ly/ 2e2ET9

                      FYI, this iron is 115VAC only.

                      73's David WB4ONA

                      --- In softrock40@yahoogro ups.com, "R R Robson" <rrrobson@.. .> wrote:
                      >
                      > Tom:
                      >
                      > Re soldering iron: you definitely want something that is temperature- controlled and preferably with a grounded tip. I use the Bellman 19.95 special from Frees (see http://www.wb5rvz. com/sdr/sr_ lite_ii/ - there is some fairly helpful info on that page).
                      >
                      > tx es 73 de robby wb5rvz
                      > What happens in the shack
                      > Stays in the shack!
                      > ----- Original Message -----
                      > From: Tom Peterson
                      > To: softrock40@yahoogro ups.com
                      > Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 2:28 PM
                      > Subject: Re: [softrock40] Re:FYI Genesis Radio
                      >
                      >
                      > Having never in my life soldered a surface mount component, I'm about to
                      > take the plunge. I have sitting here in front of me a Softrock 80M Lite
                      > II to assemble. I'd be much happier if it was all nice bulky through
                      > hole components, but it isn't, and it look as if more and more kit are
                      > going to be surface mount stuff. I've ordered a headband magnifying
                      > visor already, but I suspect my old bulky RS 40W iron isn't going to be
                      > up to the task. What do you lot recommend for soldering surface mount
                      > stuff?
                      >
                      > I've also got one of the little Genesis 1W 30M transmitter kits on the
                      > way. It just looked like it would be fun to build and play with. If
                      > this 80M softrock goes well, I might have to get a 30M version to
                      > compliment the Q5.
                      >
                      > Robert Brown wrote:
                      > > IMHO the Genesis is a way behind the Softrock. Far too many bulky
                      > > through hole components for my liking, and no 3rd party add-on kits
                      > > (yet).
                      > >
                      > > 73s,
                      > > Rob
                      > > (M0RZF)
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >
                      >

                    • Mike Loebl
                      I agree 100%. I purchased an Aoyue 2702 after I had issues with my HF transceiver, and wish I had done it earlier! I remember when I got my first SoftRock
                      Message 10 of 26 , Nov 3, 2009
                        I agree 100%. I purchased an Aoyue 2702 after I had issues with my
                        HF transceiver, and wish I had done it earlier! I remember when I got my
                        first SoftRock kit I was worried about soldering the surface mount
                        components (then realized that it was a breeze, and the toroids were the
                        part I truly disliked.) I remember very well when I had the dreaded moment
                        of "the smt IC is backwards", and my stomach sank. After quite a bit of
                        work I was able to get it off, but not without accidentally lifting a pad
                        (thank goodness the green wire worked.) Now I can pull them off in about
                        15s with no damage. Also comes in handy for removing other stuff like
                        connectors that have multiple TH pins. I believe people have successfully
                        used inexpensive hot air guns as some have a narrowing head add-on, you just
                        need to be careful with them as they aren't as temp controllable.

                        73s,

                        -Mike
                        KB1MTS

                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: softrock40@yahoogroups.com [mailto:softrock40@yahoogroups.com] On
                        Behalf Of Dave - WB6DHW
                        Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 2:53 AM
                        To: softrock40@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: Re: [softrock40] Re:FYI Genesis Radio

                        For removing multi-pin devices, nothing beats hot air. Anyone know of
                        a low cost controllable way. My rework station(Aoyue 968) works great,
                        but at about $150 is not cheap! I would like to introduce some of our
                        clubs new hams to the joys of homebrewing.

                        Dave - WB6DHW
                        <http://wb6dhw.com>
                      • Craig
                        I use an embossing heat tool that I bought at Hobby Lobby for $20.00. It works great for repairs and for building the softrocks. You should be able to get the
                        Message 11 of 26 , Nov 3, 2009
                          I use an embossing heat tool that I bought at Hobby Lobby for $20.00. It works great for repairs and for building the softrocks.

                          You should be able to get the embossing heat tool at most hobby shops.

                          Hope this is helpful.
                          73s
                          Craig AB9IV
                          --- In softrock40@yahoogroups.com, Dave - WB6DHW <brainerd@...> wrote:
                          >
                          > For removing multi-pin devices, nothing beats hot air. Anyone know of
                          > a low cost controllable way. My rework station(Aoyue 968) works great,
                          > but at about $150 is not cheap! I would like to introduce some of our
                          > clubs new hams to the joys of homebrewing.
                          >
                          > Dave - WB6DHW
                          > <http://wb6dhw.com>
                          >
                          > drmail377 wrote:
                          > > Hi Robby, you said, "Bellman 19.95 special from Frees". I think you meant:
                          > >
                          > > Velleman VTSS5U 50W Solder Station (approx $20 at Frys)
                          > >
                          > > http://shop1.frys.com/product/4825190;jsessionid=JgkkdKH3TaF0Y-KUZY+jHQ**.node2?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
                          > >
                          > > Same link here:
                          > >
                          > > http://bit.ly/2e2ET9
                          > >
                          > > FYI, this iron is 115VAC only.
                          > >
                          > > 73's David WB4ONA
                          > >
                          > > --- In softrock40@yahoogroups.com, "R R Robson" <rrrobson@> wrote:
                          > >
                          > >> Tom:
                          > >>
                          > >> Re soldering iron: you definitely want something that is temperature-controlled and preferably with a grounded tip. I use the Bellman 19.95 special from Frees (see http://www.wb5rvz.com/sdr/sr_lite_ii/ - there is some fairly helpful info on that page).
                          > >>
                          > >> tx es 73 de robby wb5rvz
                          > >> What happens in the shack
                          > >> Stays in the shack!
                          > >> ----- Original Message -----
                          > >> From: Tom Peterson
                          > >> To: softrock40@yahoogroups.com
                          > >> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 2:28 PM
                          > >> Subject: Re: [softrock40] Re:FYI Genesis Radio
                          > >>
                          > >>
                          > >> Having never in my life soldered a surface mount component, I'm about to
                          > >> take the plunge. I have sitting here in front of me a Softrock 80M Lite
                          > >> II to assemble. I'd be much happier if it was all nice bulky through
                          > >> hole components, but it isn't, and it look as if more and more kit are
                          > >> going to be surface mount stuff. I've ordered a headband magnifying
                          > >> visor already, but I suspect my old bulky RS 40W iron isn't going to be
                          > >> up to the task. What do you lot recommend for soldering surface mount
                          > >> stuff?
                          > >>
                          > >> I've also got one of the little Genesis 1W 30M transmitter kits on the
                          > >> way. It just looked like it would be fun to build and play with. If
                          > >> this 80M softrock goes well, I might have to get a 30M version to
                          > >> compliment the Q5.
                          > >>
                          > >> Robert Brown wrote:
                          > >> > IMHO the Genesis is a way behind the Softrock. Far too many bulky
                          > >> > through hole components for my liking, and no 3rd party add-on kits
                          > >> > (yet).
                          > >> >
                          > >> > 73s,
                          > >> > Rob
                          > >> > (M0RZF)
                          > >> >
                          > >> >
                          > >> >
                          > >>
                          > >>
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          > >
                          >
                        • R R Robson
                          I use a similar one and fashion a nozzle out of aluminum foil which serves to focus the hot air on the part. Without that, things can get a little dicey due
                          Message 12 of 26 , Nov 3, 2009
                            I use a similar one and fashion a "nozzle" out of aluminum foil which serves to focus the hot air on the part.  Without that, things can get a little dicey due to the melting of the solder on adjacent components.

                            tx es 73 de robby wb5rvz
                            What happens in the shack
                            Stays in the shack!
                            ----- Original Message -----
                            From: Craig
                            Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 8:37 AM
                            Subject: [softrock40] Re:FYI Genesis Radio

                             

                            I use an embossing heat tool that I bought at Hobby Lobby for $20.00. It works great for repairs and for building the softrocks.

                            You should be able to get the embossing heat tool at most hobby shops.

                            Hope this is helpful.
                            73s
                            Craig AB9IV
                            --- In softrock40@yahoogro ups.com, Dave - WB6DHW <brainerd@.. .> wrote:
                            >
                            > For removing multi-pin devices, nothing beats hot air. Anyone know of
                            > a low cost controllable way. My rework station(Aoyue 968) works great,
                            > but at about $150 is not cheap! I would like to introduce some of our
                            > clubs new hams to the joys of homebrewing.
                            >
                            > Dave - WB6DHW
                            > <http://wb6dhw. com>
                            >
                            > drmail377 wrote:
                            > > Hi Robby, you said, "Bellman 19.95 special from Frees". I think you meant:
                            > >
                            > > Velleman VTSS5U 50W Solder Station (approx $20 at Frys)
                            > >
                            > > http://shop1. frys.com/ product/4825190; jsessionid= JgkkdKH3TaF0Y- KUZY+jHQ* *.node2?site= sr:SEARCH: MAIN_RSLT_ PG
                            > >
                            > > Same link here:
                            > >
                            > > http://bit.ly/ 2e2ET9
                            > >
                            > > FYI, this iron is 115VAC only.
                            > >
                            > > 73's David WB4ONA
                            > >
                            > > --- In softrock40@yahoogro ups.com, "R R Robson" <rrrobson@> wrote:
                            > >
                            > >> Tom:
                            > >>
                            > >> Re soldering iron: you definitely want something that is temperature- controlled and preferably with a grounded tip. I use the Bellman 19.95 special from Frees (see http://www.wb5rvz. com/sdr/sr_ lite_ii/ - there is some fairly helpful info on that page).
                            > >>
                            > >> tx es 73 de robby wb5rvz
                            > >> What happens in the shack
                            > >> Stays in the shack!
                            > >> ----- Original Message -----
                            > >> From: Tom Peterson
                            > >> To: softrock40@yahoogro ups.com
                            > >> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 2:28 PM
                            > >> Subject: Re: [softrock40] Re:FYI Genesis Radio
                            > >>
                            > >>
                            > >> Having never in my life soldered a surface mount component, I'm about to
                            > >> take the plunge. I have sitting here in front of me a Softrock 80M Lite
                            > >> II to assemble. I'd be much happier if it was all nice bulky through
                            > >> hole components, but it isn't, and it look as if more and more kit are
                            > >> going to be surface mount stuff. I've ordered a headband magnifying
                            > >> visor already, but I suspect my old bulky RS 40W iron isn't going to be
                            > >> up to the task. What do you lot recommend for soldering surface mount
                            > >> stuff?
                            > >>
                            > >> I've also got one of the little Genesis 1W 30M transmitter kits on the
                            > >> way. It just looked like it would be fun to build and play with. If
                            > >> this 80M softrock goes well, I might have to get a 30M version to
                            > >> compliment the Q5.
                            > >>
                            > >> Robert Brown wrote:
                            > >> > IMHO the Genesis is a way behind the Softrock. Far too many bulky
                            > >> > through hole components for my liking, and no 3rd party add-on kits
                            > >> > (yet).
                            > >> >
                            > >> > 73s,
                            > >> > Rob
                            > >> > (M0RZF)
                            > >> >
                            > >> >
                            > >> >
                            > >>
                            > >>
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            > >
                            >

                          • Marciniak, Ed
                            Shorting either of the paddle inputs or hitting MOX button in PowerSDR 1.18 does not cause my RXTX 6.3 to go into transmit. I m using the PA0FKO SDR1K.dll. Is
                            Message 13 of 26 , Nov 3, 2009

                              Shorting either of the paddle inputs or hitting MOX button in PowerSDR 1.18 does not cause my RXTX 6.3 to go into transmit. I’m using the PA0FKO SDR1K.dll. Is transmit supported for this configuration, do I need to use other software, or is there a bug in the firmware/dll?

                              Yes, the ABPF is disabled.

                            • Sid Boyce
                              ... Must have been an analog clock. Luckily I have 3 step down transformers acquired from work, all our scopes and meters were shipped from the USA, so I m
                              Message 14 of 26 , Nov 3, 2009
                                On 03/11/09 12:57, R R Robson wrote:
                                >
                                >
                                > Thanks - I keep telling folks, my momma didn't raise no typokist!
                                >
                                > That 115 VAC could be a decided disadvantage across the pond. I'll
                                > never forget years ago when I stayed with an Italian family for a summer
                                > and brought them a gift: a beautiful GE clock radio (115 VAC 60 Hz -
                                > analog clock). Lost 10 minutes each hour!
                                >
                                > tx es 73 de robby wb5rvz
                                > What happens in the shack
                                > Stays in the shack!
                                >
                                Must have been an analog clock.
                                Luckily I have 3 step down transformers acquired from work, all our
                                scopes and meters were shipped from the USA, so I'm dual voltage ready
                                here. The scopes are switchable, but I mostly run them on the transformer.
                                I once had to loan one to a relative who bought some Christmas lights in
                                Canada, he's since got his own.
                                73 ... Sid.


                                > ----- Original Message -----
                                > *From:* drmail377 <mailto:drmail377@...>
                                > *To:* softrock40@yahoogroups.com <mailto:softrock40@yahoogroups.com>
                                > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 03, 2009 12:11 AM
                                > *Subject:* [softrock40] Re:FYI Genesis Radio
                                >
                                >
                                >
                                > Hi Robby, you said, "Bellman 19.95 special from Frees". I think you
                                > meant:
                                >
                                > Velleman VTSS5U 50W Solder Station (approx $20 at Frys)
                                >
                                > http://shop1.frys.com/product/4825190;jsessionid=JgkkdKH3TaF0Y-KUZY+jHQ**.node2?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
                                > <http://shop1.frys.com/product/4825190;jsessionid=JgkkdKH3TaF0Y-KUZY+jHQ**.node2?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG>
                                >
                                > Same link here:
                                >
                                > http://bit.ly/2e2ET9 <http://bit.ly/2e2ET9>
                                >
                                > FYI, this iron is 115VAC only.
                                >
                                > 73's David WB4ONA
                                >
                                > --- In softrock40@yahoogroups.com
                                > <mailto:softrock40%40yahoogroups.com>, "R R Robson" <rrrobson@...>
                                > wrote:
                                > >
                                > > Tom:
                                > >
                                > > Re soldering iron: you definitely want something that is
                                > temperature-controlled and preferably with a grounded tip. I use the
                                > Bellman 19.95 special from Frees (see
                                > http://www.wb5rvz.com/sdr/sr_lite_ii/
                                > <http://www.wb5rvz.com/sdr/sr_lite_ii/> - there is some fairly
                                > helpful info on that page).
                                > >
                                > > tx es 73 de robby wb5rvz
                                > > What happens in the shack
                                > > Stays in the shack!
                                > > ----- Original Message -----
                                > > From: Tom Peterson
                                > > To: softrock40@yahoogroups.com <mailto:softrock40%40yahoogroups.com>
                                > > Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 2:28 PM
                                > > Subject: Re: [softrock40] Re:FYI Genesis Radio
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > Having never in my life soldered a surface mount component, I'm
                                > about to
                                > > take the plunge. I have sitting here in front of me a Softrock 80M
                                > Lite
                                > > II to assemble. I'd be much happier if it was all nice bulky through
                                > > hole components, but it isn't, and it look as if more and more kit
                                > are
                                > > going to be surface mount stuff. I've ordered a headband magnifying
                                > > visor already, but I suspect my old bulky RS 40W iron isn't going
                                > to be
                                > > up to the task. What do you lot recommend for soldering surface mount
                                > > stuff?
                                > >
                                > > I've also got one of the little Genesis 1W 30M transmitter kits on
                                > the
                                > > way. It just looked like it would be fun to build and play with. If
                                > > this 80M softrock goes well, I might have to get a 30M version to
                                > > compliment the Q5.
                                > >
                                > > Robert Brown wrote:
                                > > > IMHO the Genesis is a way behind the Softrock. Far too many bulky
                                > > > through hole components for my liking, and no 3rd party add-on kits
                                > > > (yet).
                                > > >
                                > > > 73s,
                                > > > Rob
                                > > > (M0RZF)
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > > >
                                > >
                                >


                                --
                                Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot
                                Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support
                                Specialist, Cricket Coach
                                Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks
                              • Tom Peterson
                                Tnx! Just ordered one. Sent from my iPod
                                Message 15 of 26 , Nov 3, 2009
                                  Tnx!  Just ordered one. 

                                  Sent from my iPod

                                  On Nov 1, 2009, at 4:52 PM, "R R Robson" <rrrobson@...> wrote:

                                  Tom:
                                   
                                  Re soldering iron:  you definitely want something that is temperature-controlled and preferably with a grounded tip.  I use the Bellman 19.95 special from Frees (see http://www.wb5rvz.com/sdr/sr_lite_ii/ - there is some fairly helpful info on that page).

                                  tx es 73 de robby wb5rvz
                                  What happens in the shack
                                  Stays in the shack!
                                  ----- Original Message -----
                                  Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 2:28 PM
                                  Subject: Re: [softrock40] Re:FYI Genesis Radio

                                   

                                  Having never in my life soldered a surface mount component, I'm about to
                                  take the plunge. I have sitting here in front of me a Softrock 80M Lite
                                  II to assemble. I'd be much happier if it was all nice bulky through
                                  hole components, but it isn't, and it look as if more and more kit are
                                  going to be surface mount stuff. I've ordered a headband magnifying
                                  visor already, but I suspect my old bulky RS 40W iron isn't going to be
                                  up to the task. What do you lot recommend for soldering surface mount
                                  stuff?

                                  I've also got one of the little Genesis 1W 30M transmitter kits on the
                                  way. It just looked like it would be fun to build and play with. If
                                  this 80M softrock goes well, I might have to get a 30M version to
                                  compliment the Q5.

                                  Robert Brown wrote:
                                  > IMHO the Genesis is a way behind the Softrock. Far too many bulky
                                  > through hole components for my liking, and no 3rd party add-on kits
                                  > (yet).
                                  >
                                  > 73s,
                                  > Rob
                                  > (M0RZF)
                                  >
                                  >
                                  >

                                • jr_dakota
                                  ... I can remember when you moved him over from another really slow server that really couldn t handle PDF size files very well. You did everyone a big favor
                                  Message 16 of 26 , Nov 4, 2009
                                    --- In softrock40@yahoogroups.com, k5nwa <k5nwa@...> wrote:

                                    > >
                                    >
                                    > His site has more downloads that all my other sites put together, I'm
                                    > glad he is going to make new designs, we need variety.
                                    >
                                    >
                                    > Cecil
                                    > k5nwa
                                    > www.softrockradio.org www.qrpradio.com
                                    > < http://parts.softrockradio.org/ >
                                    >
                                    > Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
                                    >

                                    I can remember when you moved him over from another really slow server that really couldn't handle PDF size files very well. You did everyone a big favor and I for one appreciate it

                                    JR
                                  • jr_dakota
                                    I use the Hobby Lobby embossing tool also, for rework the trick is to use a piece of thin cardboard with a hole slightly larger than the device you are
                                    Message 17 of 26 , Nov 4, 2009
                                      I use the Hobby Lobby embossing tool also, for 'rework' the trick is to use a piece of thin cardboard with a hole slightly larger than the device you are removing to protect the surrounding circuitry. I made a funnel shaped attachment from stainless steel to concentrate the air/heat flow and use a Triac type 'lamp dimmer' circuit to control the blower speed and heat on the embossing tool (Makes a good soldering pencil heat controller too)

                                      I have to give credit where credit is due here, the original idea came from Cash Olsen KD5SSJ which is also a good guy to get SMT paste solder from
                                      http://www.kd5ssj.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=120&Itemid=54

                                      JR

                                      --- In softrock40@yahoogroups.com, Dave - WB6DHW <brainerd@...> wrote:
                                      >
                                      > For removing multi-pin devices, nothing beats hot air. Anyone know of
                                      > a low cost controllable way. My rework station(Aoyue 968) works great,
                                      > but at about $150 is not cheap! I would like to introduce some of our
                                      > clubs new hams to the joys of homebrewing.
                                      >
                                      > Dave - WB6DHW
                                      > <http://wb6dhw.com>
                                      >
                                      >
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