RE: [soapbuilders] SOAPVerse - the kernel of an idea for an inter operability test/de mo
- You're thinking of everywhere-else.ibm.com. :) (mea culpa)
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> Subject: Re: [soapbuilders] SOAPVerse - the kernel of an idea for an
> interoperability test/de mo
> Curious, I was pretty sure foo.ibm.com was powered by
> WebSphere! I guess I
> was wrong?
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> Glen Daniels <gdaniels@...> on 03/20/2001 11:35:40 AM
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> Subject: [soapbuilders] SOAPVerse - the kernel of an idea for an
> interoperability test/de mo
> Hi folks!
> This is a quick writeup of an idea that a bunch of folks had last week
> discussing interoperability demos and tests. It's a pretty
> simple system
> which we thought was a) fun, b) technically interesting, and
> c) quite a
> compelling demo. I'd like to know what people think of the
> idea - is this
> too ambitious, is it something you'd be psyched to help
> it cool?
> The SOAPVerse : A long-term SOAP interoperability demo
> [1.0 Introduction - the view from outside]
> I'll start explaining the idea by giving a brief scenario.
> You connect a
> browser to SOAPVerse.org, which gives you three choices - 1) enter the
> SOAPVerse, 2) look at the map, and 3) learn about joining.
> You choose #1,
> and are offered a list of available clients and "entry portals" (i.e.
> clients (no, not "IE clients", necessarily...)) on the web.
> You choose a
> local entry portal, and a Java applet appears, primarily
> composed of a text
> SOAP Tower
> You stand in the SOAP tower. The floor's a bit slippery here, but you
> suspect you could make it to the exits to the NORTH or EAST
> if you walked
> There is a briefcase sitting here.
> (this room lives at foo.ibm.com, and is powered by
> Tomcat/Apache-SOAP 2.1!)
> It's a text adventure, much like Zork or Colossal Cave, but a
> lot simpler.
> The interesting part happens when you move to the East:
> [a strange feeling overcomes you for a moment as you pass
> through the door]
> Campus West
> You stand on the Microsoft campus, near building 33. You may
> ENTER, or
> travel WEST or SOUTH down the main road.
> Others in this room : KeithB
> There is a rubber ducky sitting here.
> (this room lives at bar.microsoft.com, and is powered by IIS/ASP.NET!)
> What just happened is that you smoothly and transparently
> moved from one
> SOAP-based server to another. The servers had to
> interoperate to "pass you
> off", and anyone who wants to go check out the website can
> see the deeper
> technical explanation of what's going on.
> If you'd selected the "map" option, you'd see a cool
> graphical depiction of
> the whole graph of rooms currently connected to the
> SOAPVerse, color-coded
> by host/server technology.
> [2.0 Digging a little deeper]
> That's the basic idea - a totally distributed text adventure game that
> demonstrates SOAP interoperability at a number of levels.
> The actual APIs
> are pretty simple, and should be implementable in few days at
> the most.
> So if you go to the "join us" section of the site, you end up
> with several
> things. First, a description of the structure of the application, in
> detail that you could implement it on your own site. This
> can (and should)
> be in as many forms as possible - english text, WSDL, SDL,
> IDL, etc....
> So you build the server to the spec, in any
> you happen to have handy.
> Next, you find a form which allows you to test your server
> once you've got
> it up. This causes the SOAPVerse server to run a series of
> tests against
> your endpoint, to see if you can interoperate with it. Assuming that
> you can click "hook me up!" and the SOAPVerse server randomly
> picks a place
> on the graph to add your area, and matchmakes a connection
> between your
> server and whoever you're connecting to. The tests should
> get run again
> between you and this new guy, to make sure you two
> interoperate (you don't
> want to just prove interoperation between the "main" server
> and your impl),
> and then if everything looks good, you're now a part of the
> world, and your
> rooms appear on the master map.
> There's some more detail about which kinds of things we're
> testing with a
> system like this (data serialization, headers,
> intermediaries?), actual
> etc. but I'll convey my thoughts about that in a design discussion if
> enough community interest in this project.
> [3.0 Musings]
> This kind of thing serves at least two purposes. First, it
> can stay up in
> perpetuity, demonstrating SOAP interoperability in a fun way.
> This should
> be something you can always find, and hook new servers into.
> Second, it's
> good demo for tradeshow-type events.
> Obviously there's a lot of opportunity for errors to happen
> here, so the
> system shouldn't assume too much about robustness, and should
> fail in the face of problems. It's meant as an interoperability demo,
> not a full-scale game.
> None of this is at all carved in stone, we just liked the
> basic idea. It
> shouldn't get too complicated, and it shouldn't rely on any particular
> If this could get done by late next month, this could be the actual
> for the "interopathon" demo which has been discussed for
> in May.
> What do you think?
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