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Re: [soapbuilders] SOAPVerse - the kernel of an idea for an interoperability test/de mo

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  • Steve Graham
    Curious, I was pretty sure foo.ibm.com was powered by WebSphere! I guess I was wrong? ++++++++ Steve Graham sggraham@us.ibm.com (919)254-0615 (T/L 444) Web
    Message 1 of 4 , Mar 20, 2001
      Curious, I was pretty sure foo.ibm.com was powered by WebSphere! I guess I
      was wrong?

      Steve Graham
      (919)254-0615 (T/L 444)
      Web Services Architect
      Emerging Internet Technologies

      Glen Daniels <gdaniels@...> on 03/20/2001 11:35:40 AM

      Please respond to soapbuilders@yahoogroups.com

      To: interopathon@yahoogroups.com, Soapbuilders
      <soapbuilders@yahoogroups.com>, "'SOAP@...'"
      Subject: [soapbuilders] SOAPVerse - the kernel of an idea for an
      interoperability test/de mo

      Hi folks!

      This is a quick writeup of an idea that a bunch of folks had last week
      discussing interoperability demos and tests. It's a pretty simple system
      which we thought was a) fun, b) technically interesting, and c) quite a
      compelling demo. I'd like to know what people think of the idea - is this
      too ambitious, is it something you'd be psyched to help design/implement,
      it cool?

      The SOAPVerse : A long-term SOAP interoperability demo

      [1.0 Introduction - the view from outside]

      I'll start explaining the idea by giving a brief scenario. You connect a
      browser to SOAPVerse.org, which gives you three choices - 1) enter the
      SOAPVerse, 2) look at the map, and 3) learn about joining. You choose #1,
      and are offered a list of available clients and "entry portals" (i.e.
      clients (no, not "IE clients", necessarily...)) on the web. You choose a
      local entry portal, and a Java applet appears, primarily composed of a text

      SOAP Tower

      You stand in the SOAP tower. The floor's a bit slippery here, but you
      suspect you could make it to the exits to the NORTH or EAST if you walked

      There is a briefcase sitting here.

      (this room lives at foo.ibm.com, and is powered by Tomcat/Apache-SOAP 2.1!)

      It's a text adventure, much like Zork or Colossal Cave, but a lot simpler.
      The interesting part happens when you move to the East:

      [a strange feeling overcomes you for a moment as you pass through the door]

      Campus West

      You stand on the Microsoft campus, near building 33. You may ENTER, or
      travel WEST or SOUTH down the main road.

      Others in this room : KeithB

      There is a rubber ducky sitting here.

      (this room lives at bar.microsoft.com, and is powered by IIS/ASP.NET!)

      What just happened is that you smoothly and transparently moved from one
      SOAP-based server to another. The servers had to interoperate to "pass you
      off", and anyone who wants to go check out the website can see the deeper
      technical explanation of what's going on.

      If you'd selected the "map" option, you'd see a cool graphical depiction of
      the whole graph of rooms currently connected to the SOAPVerse, color-coded
      by host/server technology.

      [2.0 Digging a little deeper]

      That's the basic idea - a totally distributed text adventure game that
      demonstrates SOAP interoperability at a number of levels. The actual APIs
      are pretty simple, and should be implementable in few days at the most.

      So if you go to the "join us" section of the site, you end up with several
      things. First, a description of the structure of the application, in
      detail that you could implement it on your own site. This can (and should)
      be in as many forms as possible - english text, WSDL, SDL, IDL, etc....
      So you build the server to the spec, in any language/environment/platform
      you happen to have handy.

      Next, you find a form which allows you to test your server once you've got
      it up. This causes the SOAPVerse server to run a series of tests against
      your endpoint, to see if you can interoperate with it. Assuming that
      you can click "hook me up!" and the SOAPVerse server randomly picks a place
      on the graph to add your area, and matchmakes a connection between your
      server and whoever you're connecting to. The tests should get run again
      between you and this new guy, to make sure you two interoperate (you don't
      want to just prove interoperation between the "main" server and your impl),
      and then if everything looks good, you're now a part of the world, and your
      rooms appear on the master map.

      There's some more detail about which kinds of things we're testing with a
      system like this (data serialization, headers, intermediaries?), actual
      etc. but I'll convey my thoughts about that in a design discussion if
      enough community interest in this project.

      [3.0 Musings]

      This kind of thing serves at least two purposes. First, it can stay up in
      perpetuity, demonstrating SOAP interoperability in a fun way. This should
      be something you can always find, and hook new servers into. Second, it's
      good demo for tradeshow-type events.

      Obviously there's a lot of opportunity for errors to happen here, so the
      system shouldn't assume too much about robustness, and should gracefully
      fail in the face of problems. It's meant as an interoperability demo,
      not a full-scale game.

      None of this is at all carved in stone, we just liked the basic idea. It
      shouldn't get too complicated, and it shouldn't rely on any particular

      If this could get done by late next month, this could be the actual
      for the "interopathon" demo which has been discussed for NetWorld/Interop
      in May.

      What do you think?


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