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677Re: [soapbuilders] Outstanding BDG issues

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  • Dave Winer
    Mar 30, 2001
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      My concern is that someone could say "BDG is not SOAP 1.1." If changing the
      URL enables that then I'm against it. If changing the URL doesn't in any way
      detract from its SOAPy goodness then let's go. Andrew's and Don's response
      makes me wonder what they're up to. I thought we were doing the right thing.
      I tried to make it clear that implementing the full spec was not a
      possibility for UserLand. Can't speak for any other developers. Dave


      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Paul Kulchenko" <paulclinger@...>
      To: <soapbuilders@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 3:19 PM
      Subject: Re: [soapbuilders] Outstanding BDG issues


      > Hi, Dave!
      >
      > Yes, it should address it. At least that's exactly what Keith was
      > talking about. I would rather disagree with Don, but his concern is
      > right and since it's subset in my understanding it may be based on
      > value for section 5 encodingStyle.
      >
      > Best wishes, Paul.
      >
      > --- Dave Winer <dave@...> wrote:
      > > Do you think that would address Andrew Layman's concern expressed
      > > on the
      > > Developmentor SOAP mail list? I have to admit I found Andrew's
      > > comments
      > > puzzling, I wasn't sure what the basis was for his concern. Is it
      > > the URL
      > > that we use here? If that's the only problem, then let's change it
      > > for sure.
      > > No problemmo. Dave
      > >
      > >
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From: "Paul Kulchenko" <paulclinger@...>
      > > To: <soapbuilders@yahoogroups.com>
      > > Cc: <jake@...>
      > > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 2:32 PM
      > > Subject: RE: [soapbuilders] Outstanding BDG issues
      > >
      > >
      > > > Hi, Simon and others!
      > > >
      > > > I have one more issue. Why don't alter encodingStyle to
      > > > http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/bdg or something else?
      > > >
      > > > It's it perfectly spec conformant:
      > > >
      > > > 4.1.1. In addition, all URIs syntactically beginning with
      > > > "http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/" indicate conformance
      > > with
      > > > the SOAP encoding rules defined in section 5 (though with
      > > potentially
      > > > tighter rules added).
      > > >
      > > > That's exactly what we need.
      > > >
      > > > And it would specify that implementation support ONLY subset if
      > > > required and at the same time doesn't change anything in existent
      > > > implementations. It will also provide correct fallback if
      > > application
      > > > does NOT want to reply/support BDG.
      > > >
      > > > Maybe not all application will handle this functionality
      > > > out-of-the-box, but it's easy to add and imho the way to go.
      > > >
      > > > Comments?
      > > >
      > > > Best wishes, Paul.
      > > >
      > > > --- Simon Fell <sfell@...> wrote:
      > > > > These are two outstanding issues from my comments last night.
      > > > >
      > > > > 1. in the types section, there is an xsd:base64, i think this
      > > > > should be
      > > > > SOAP-ENC:base64, the SOAP specific base64 encoded type, see
      > > section
      > > > > 5.2.3 of
      > > > > the SOAP 1.1 spec. From an implementation POV, it should be
      > > easier
      > > > > to
      > > > > implement as you don't have to worry about line lengths
      > > > >
      > > > > 2. Is the response example, an example of the response to the
      > > > > example
      > > > > request ? If so, the request, has a namespace qualified
      > > methodname
      > > > > of
      > > > > <m:getStateName xmlns:m="http://www.soapware.org/"> whilst the
      > > > > response is
      > > > > unqualified <getStateNameResponse>. The namespace of the
      > > response
      > > > > should
      > > > > match the namespace of the request (This really should be
      > > mentioned
      > > > > in the
      > > > > response section)
      > > > >
      > > > > Cheers
      > > > > Simon
      > > > >
      > > > > -----Original Message-----
      > > > > From: Jake Savin [mailto:jake@...]
      > > > > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 2:00 PM
      > > > > To: soapbuilders@yahoogroups.com
      > > > > Subject: [soapbuilders] Outstanding BDG issues
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > Hello all,
      > > > >
      > > > > I'm compiling a list of outstanding issues with the Busy
      > > Developers
      > > > > Guide.
      > > > > They're on this page:
      > > > >
      > > > > http://jake.soapware.org/outstandingBdgIssues
      > > > >
      > > > > If you have any outstanding issues, please send an email to the
      > > > > list, and CC
      > > > > me, and I'll make sure it's added to the page.
      > > > >
      > > > > I also added the page to the list's bookmarks.
      > > > >
      > > > > Thanks,
      > > > >
      > > > > -Jake
      > > > >
      > > > >
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