RE: [BSA] Re: Lake Lowell Access
- I, also enjoyed Lake Lowell. It was my first time, but I promised myself to
go back when the planets aligned. I enjoyed riding on a SE course into the
setting sun. It was warm. There wasn't a boat or bird or person in sight
(except for Eddy and B-Rad). I felt I really connected with nature. Isn't
that what that place is all about.
I wonder what the REAL reason is for not allowing us to use this wonderful
resource. What is the REAL concern? As far as I can tell, we have
absolutely NO negative impact on the area. The best thing about our sport
is that everyone and everything else is taking shelter and hunkering down
while we are out enjoying.
From: BoiseSailors@... [mailto:BoiseSailors@...]
On Behalf Of Lee, Chris (DPT-BOISE)
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:36 PM
To: Boise Sailors Association; email@example.com
Subject: [BSA] Re: Lake Lowell Access
I do understand it may not be worth the effort given how rare it goes
off. On the other hand, I worry about setting a precedence and that may
eventually lead to banning in other local sites.
One nice thing about Lake Lowell (when I still had my old 12' board) to
be able to "cruise" into the sunset. It's a totally different feeling
than ripping fast on a slalom board. It felt nice & free!
[mailto:BoiseSailors@...] On Behalf Of Williams, Rod
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:27 PM
To: Tom von Alten; Boise Sailors Association;
Subject: [BSA] RE: Lake Lowell Access
It is interesting to do a Google search on "windsurfing in wildlife
refuges" or "kite boarding in wildlife refuges" (the later gives you
mostly hits on a "kite" a type of bird, but occasionally hits on the old
fashioned type of kiting - where you stand firmly on the ground and the
kite does not drag you around!).
The hits I found were all over the map. Some refuges actually promote
windsurfing in the refuge, others explicitly ban windsurfing and/or kite
Based on this it seems doubtful that the issue here is a matter of
national policy. It sounds more like an issue up to the discretion of
the local manager. Perhaps a meeting with Ms Johnson, with as many of
us showing up as possible, to engage in polite and informative dialogue
might win the day.
On the other hand, with Indian creek, Luck peak and CJ strike at our
disposal, perhaps it is not worth the effort.
[mailto:BoiseSailors@...] On Behalf Of Tom von Alten
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:56 PM
To: 'Boise Sailors Association'; firstname.lastname@example.org
Subject: [BSA] RE: Lake Lowell Access
Steve Baker sent me his account of the incident at the Lake last week,
and gave me permission to forward it to these groups. It seems that from
the refuge manager's point of view, kitesailing, at least, IS INDEED
BANNED. (Perhaps if people hadn't tried to tow parasailors behind
motorboats, they wouldn't have had a knee-jerk reaction to the concept?
Windsurfing MAY BE banned ("no permission is granted"), but is at least
in limbo, along with motor toys. I have no idea how ripe or valid any
of the cited "lawsuits from both sides" might be.
I'm open to suggestion for the best way to coordinate a response that
produces the result we want -- lake access for our environmentally
friendly, low-impact sports.
Tom von Alten http://fortboise.org
> -----Original Message-------~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 7:26 AM
> Subject: Sailing report
> Steve Baker, sbakerdvm@..., and I read your letter on the
> snowkite group site. I'm unable to get on that group so far, so I'm
> sending this on (another account); you can write back to my email
> I was the one prohibited from launching (it still hurts; the wind was
> so nice) by Todd Fenzl, the deputy manager from the refuge. I called
> and had a nice talk with Elaine Johnson, the refuge manager. She was
> very patient, articulate, and well informed concerning the matters of
> this and other refuges' rules and regs. She's also not in favor of
> motorboats vs. human powered crafts, but Lake Lowell is partially
> funded by selling duck stamps, and so hunting for certain species at
> certain times is allowed. The fight against motorboats ands jet skis
> is beginning, but she feels it will be a monumental task, and she
> faces lawsuits on both sides of the issue (from the rednecks and the
> Basically, the refuge exists to protect migratory routes and nesting
> areas; any activity on the refuge must also support that; in some
> twisted way, hunting supports that (see above). The other issues are
> education, fishing, species conservation, and I forget the other two
> (she referred to them as 'the big six').
> Motorboats and hunting go hand in hand; sailing and canoes help fund
> and help educate, but I could not convince her that riding a surfboard
> either under sail or kite powered was another way to educate oneself
> on the complexities of the grebe mating display. She also pointed out
> that the air above a refuge is controlled airspace, and kites with
> people dangling under them is a violation of this rule.
> I asked her if it was futile to pursue this further; she said the
> final decision would have to come from far above her or the regional
> office; we both called USFWS law enforcement for their take, and they
> agreed. According to them, there's no benefit to having kiters and
> windsurfers there, so no permission is granted. So that leaves a
> campaign with the National Office, a branch of which is at NIFC, but
> only the fire branch. They would give us more information, or if
> anyone knows some senators...?
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