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Re: If you love em, Leave em!!!!!

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  • Chrizzo
    Its Over Whitney, drop it. Why this big discussion over an isolated incident. Done!
    Message 1 of 7 , Mar 10, 2009
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      Its Over Whitney, drop it. Why this big discussion over an isolated incident. Done!

      --- In snowkiteidaho@yahoogroups.com, Whitney Rearick <whitnuld@...> wrote:
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      > Good email below.  To j. mac, who apparently feels that "dogs will always get in the road" -  I for one will be calling in any intentionally free-roaming dog I see on the Camas to the cops.  It's unfair and cruel, especially to the dog, but also to those who have to deal with the consequences.  I especially feel for the drivers who either run the poor thing over or are in a wreck because someone tried to swerve to avoid a galloping dog on the highway. 
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      > From: solarcyclops <solarcyclops@...>
      > To: snowkiteidaho@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2009 10:47:22 PM
      > Subject: [snowkiteidaho] Re: If you love em, Leave em!!!!!
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      > Darrel,
      >
      > While the cybersphere can sometimes seem a good place for a rant, this situation proves the context and meaning of a well intended comment can be drastically misperceived.
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      > In no way did I mean to offend you personally, I just felt this was something that could have been addressed on the scene and in person rather than in an f-bomb fueled email blast. TO be absolutely clear, you were right from the get-go and had I known the devastation you've witnessed thanks to careless drivers and/or careless dog owners I would have phrased my comments differently.
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      > I think your statement 'Particularly dogs who have so willingly given themselves to us people, accepting us into their pack, and appointing us as the leader. The least we can do as honor that by leading with integrity and with our companions' safety and well being foremost in our minds,' pretty much sums up the responsibility we have to our dogs as owners and caretakers. It's something I haven't had to give much thought to b/c I've never lost a best friend or seen him lose a leg. Definitely something to keep in mind, especially given the way we see drivers handling that section of Hwy 20--i.e. 85 mph on the straightaways.
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      > Let's let bygones be BYE and GONE and Get Our Kite On!
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      > --- In snowkiteidaho@ yahoogroups. com, "Darrel Thomas" <darrelthomas@ ...> wrote:
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      > > Just trying to spare you some awful heartache, man.
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      > >
      > >
      > > Thanks for keeping your pooch under wraps today. Regardless of what you
      > > might think of me.
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      > >
      > >
      > > My qualifications:
      > >
      > > 1985-90 wolf/malamute/ Siberian cross. Mike had about a 5 square mile range
      > > he considered his. He Got hit by a logging truck while I was on vacation.
      > > My friend who was house sitting was kind enough to track the trail of blood,
      > > post holing through the snow, ½ a mile, reach inside Mike's body cavity to
      > > stop the bleeding, carry him out and take him to the vet. It was good to
      > > have a friend that would go that distance for me and for my dog.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > 1990-2005 samoyed/red wolf/lab cross 1991; while dealing with a flat tire in
      > > a campground, some people parked across the highway, Fritz went to say hi, I
      > > called him back, told him to sit, stay. He complied, I turned back to the
      > > tire. Within a split second, he bolted and was hit by a minivan. I had to
      > > carry his limp and lifeless body back to the car and drive him back into
      > > town and find the only vet open on Sunday. It was one of the absolute worse
      > > days of my life. He spent over a week in intensive care and lost his left
      > > front leg. He became "Fritz the Three Legged Wonder Dog." Until I came home
      > > from work one day to find him in the backyard unable to walk. I took him to
      > > the vet, he said his stomach had twisted and swelled, shutting off the blood
      > > to his lower extremities. The vet said he had less than a 50% chance of
      > > surviving the surgery because it had been too long. He survived the
      > > surgery, but suffered a coronary when coming out of the anesthetic.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Currently, I have a Kansas City street mutt, Dr Seuss, and a lab/St Bernard,
      > > named Cabrinha, who loves the snow more than I do. They love super long
      > > hikes, Mtn bike rides and ski tours, and they have even been out kiting once
      > > or twice when my wife comes along to supervise them when they lose interest
      > > in chasing me. Cabrinha got bit by a rattle snake, and Ed Grr, a Pit
      > > Bull/Bull Mastiff, had his spleen rupture due to cancer on the same day a
      > > year ago in October. 2 weeks later, Dr S. tore his CCL (equivalent to the
      > > ACL). I missed the Kite Soldier event last year because Ed Grr was bleeding
      > > out due to the cancer and we had to make that final ride to the vet with
      > > him. I was on my way up to the event, in a truck full of people, when my
      > > wife called and said he was dying. Fortunately, Everyone in the truck
      > > thought I should go back, and gladly gave up half a day of kiting for me.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > I drive for a living and see dead dogs on the side of the road all the time.
      > > I can't help but think of the people who hopefully cared for and loved those
      > > animals, and now they are on the side of the road like garbage.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > No one would need ask me to do anything. I am compelled by my conscience to
      > > act compassionately towards other living creature. I'm sorry, but that
      > > includes asking you to take responsibility for the one you have chosen to
      > > call "yours." Particularly dogs who have so willingly given themselves to us
      > > people, accepting us into their pack, and appointing us as the leader. The
      > > least we can do as honor that by leading with integrity and with our
      > > companions' safety and well being foremost in our minds.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Thanks again for caring enough to keep him off the road today.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Darrel
      > >
      > > (f count: 2)
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > From: snowkiteidaho@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:snowkiteidaho@ yahoogroups. com]
      > > On Behalf Of solarcyclops
      > > Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 11:19 AM
      > > To: snowkiteidaho@ yahoogroups. com
      > > Subject: [snowkiteidaho] Re: If you love em, Leave em!!!!!
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      > >
      > >
      > > To J Clive & Kathy--
      > >
      > > Thank you for your concern and action regarding the dogs, it is appreciated.
      > > I will get your leash back to you hopefully today if I see you, otherwise
      > > give me a call at 850-9481.
      > >
      > > To Darrel--
      > > As for gross negligence and reckless behavior, thanks for your ridiculous
      > > and hyperinflated statements. Dogs always get in the road, this is what they
      > > do--other than licking their balls, humping butts and marking their
      > > territory to bring the vulgar to your level. How many times can you say F in
      > > one post? My guess is you don't have dogs that are more wolf than
      > > domesticated canine and as such you wouldn't have a clue what these types of
      > > dogs need on a daily basis (tons of vertical exercise in snow) and as such
      > > makes you extremely unqualified to comment about their safety.
      > >
      > > If they were in your way or tangled your lines I apologize, but to go off in
      > > such an emotionally charged way is unnecessary. Who asked you to do
      > > anything? Sure as shit if you would of called my dog he would of run away,
      > > he dislikes dangling Kooks as much as I do.
      > >
      > > SuckaFree since '83
      > > j.mac
      > >
      > > --- In snowkiteidaho@ yahoogroups. com
      > > <mailto:snowkiteida ho%40yahoogroups .com> , "Darrel Thomas"
      > > <darrelthomas@ > wrote:
      > > >
      > > > J mac and Chris,
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > If you love your dogs, LEAVE THEM HOME! They were both all over the road,
      > > > nearly getting creamed several times each. It is grossly irresponsible
      > > take
      > > > a dog to a highway and just fucking leave it. YOU brought it out there,
      > > > YOU baby sit it. You can't just go kiting off into the sunset saying "you
      > > > kids be good!"
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      > > >
      > > > We ALL have dogs, we ALL leave them at home because we know they can't
      > > keep
      > > > up with kiters for very long, and they require too much supervision.
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > Please return the leash to J Jordan. His wife, Kathy, was in the parking
      > > > lot. She put them in her car for a while earlier after they each had four
      > > > close calls. She didn't know what to do about them. When Steve and I quit
      > > > they were walking back and forth across the road, sometimes standing in
      > > the
      > > > middle, completely oblivious to the cars railing on their brakes.
      > > > Fortunately, we found the leash, or you might've finished your perfect
      > > > kiting day with a little road kill surprise waiting for you when you came
      > > > in. Wouldn't that just suck. Or worse, what if I, or someone else, had to
      > > > deal with your dead, or even worse still, not dead yet dog lying in the
      > > > road. What the fuck are we supposed to do?
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > Man, I'm pissed.
      > > >
      > >
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