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  • Jon Bolt
    Well, let me look into some low cost options. The basic purpose of incorporation is to isolate each of our personal assets from those of the corporation in
    Message 1 of 6 , Sep 30, 2008
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      Well, let me look into some low cost options.  The basic purpose of incorporation is to isolate each of our personal assets from those of the "corporation" in the event of lawsuit.  Another entity structure that achieves this is an LLC....Eddy what did you have to go through when you setup GearDaddy LLC?
       
      Jon

       
      On 9/30/08, Tom Cavaiani <TCavaiani@...> wrote:
      If were voting, I say no to the corporation idea.  Sounds like too much hassle to me, especially when we already have some very good indicators for the wind that require NO maintenance on our part.
       
      Tom

      >>> Gear Daddy LLC <geardaddyllc@...> 9/29/2008 4:15 PM >>>

      Ok guys,

      Now I need some help. A little frustrating I know...Tell me about it!!!

      A.C.E. needs our group registered as a corporation. All the paper work is complete for the wind meter, BUT our official group needs to be a corporation for the wind meter to be finalized (see email below).  I'm requiring some help to get this done.  So all those who have a bunch of free time not doing anything special????? I guess since I'm president I can dictate, Ask, Plead, beg someone to help make our group a corporation.

      Again this is only necessary if we want the wind meter. I'm happy with the current wind meters if we chose not to do this.  How much do we want a wind meter to make our group a corp? I'm sure there will have to be other official offices and documentation and fees.  I will continue to support the wind meter cause if others really want this.

      Please let me know if we should continue forward on this project. Please let your thoughts  or vote be known by Friday.

      Thanks
      Eddy Petranek
      epetranek@...
      208-863-6966



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      From: "Morbach, David  J NWW" <David.J.Morbach@...>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:29:30 -0700
      To: Eddy Petranek <epetranek@...>
      Cc: "Dunning, Joyce M NWW" <Joyce.M.Dunning@...>, "Eskildsen, Robert D NWW" <Robert.D.Eskildsen@...>
      Subject: Corporation registration

      Eddy:  I think you might have misunderstood my question on the authority to sign documents and the association itself.  Not a problem, we just need to get the Boise Sailors Association squared away as a legal entity.

      Our directives indicate that:  

      " Grants will not be made to unincorporated associations unless they are legal entities that can hold property, sue, and be sued under the laws of the state where the property is located."   (your association will be the grantee.  A license, permit, lease or easement is considered a grant)

      Your project is approved, but before we can execute the license your Association must meet the requirements of our regulations.  I apologize in that I may not have made this clear enough to you.  No hurdle we can't get over.  Give me a call and we can discuss further.  Thanks, Dave.

      David J. Morbach
      Realty Specialist
      Army Corps of Engineers

      509-527-7326
      fax 527-7618


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    • Gear Daddy LLC
      I have thrown that question out there to see if GD llc or some other llc would work but have not gotten an answer yet! To set up the LLC was $100 plus filing
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        I have thrown that question out there to see if GD llc or some other  llc would work but have not gotten an answer yet! To set up the LLC was $100 plus filing quarterly taxes. $0 in this sitiuation. I think they are going to request a non-profit Corp. Kay has said that she has set up corps before so maybe she can answer questions.  The online thing is simple but will run +$150. Just more documention and money collection crap. 

        I'm willing to put in minimum 5% of start up costs. So if ~19 others want to do the same we can move forward. 

        Sent from 
        Eddy Petranek 


        On Sep 30, 2008, at 3:28 PM, "Jon Bolt" <idakiteman@...> wrote:

        Well, let me look into some low cost options.  The basic purpose of incorporation is to isolate each of our personal assets from those of the "corporation" in the event of lawsuit.  Another entity structure that achieves this is an LLC....Eddy what did you have to go through when you setup GearDaddy LLC?
         
        Jon

         
        On 9/30/08, Tom Cavaiani <TCavaiani@...> wrote:
        If were voting, I say no to the corporation idea.  Sounds like too much hassle to me, especially when we already have some very good indicators for the wind that require NO maintenance on our part.
         
        Tom

        >>> Gear Daddy LLC <geardaddyllc@...> 9/29/2008 4:15 PM >>>

        Ok guys,

        Now I need some help. A little frustrating I know...Tell me about it!!!

        A.C.E. needs our group registered as a corporation. All the paper work is complete for the wind meter, BUT our official group needs to be a corporation for the wind meter to be finalized (see email below).  I'm requiring some help to get this done.  So all those who have a bunch of free time not doing anything special????? I guess since I'm president I can dictate, Ask, Plead, beg someone to help make our group a corporation.

        Again this is only necessary if we want the wind meter. I'm happy with the current wind meters if we chose not to do this.  How much do we want a wind meter to make our group a corp? I'm sure there will have to be other official offices and documentation and fees.  I will continue to support the wind meter cause if others really want this.

        Please let me know if we should continue forward on this project. Please let your thoughts  or vote be known by Friday.

        Thanks
        Eddy Petranek
        epetranek@...
        208-863-6966



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        From: "Morbach, David  J NWW" <David.J.Morbach@...>
        Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:29:30 -0700
        To: Eddy Petranek <epetranek@...>
        Cc: "Dunning, Joyce M NWW" <Joyce.M.Dunning@...>, "Eskildsen, Robert D NWW" <Robert.D.Eskildsen@...>
        Subject: Corporation registration

        Eddy:  I think you might have misunderstood my question on the authority to sign documents and the association itself.  Not a problem, we just need to get the Boise Sailors Association squared away as a legal entity.

        Our directives indicate that:  

        " Grants will not be made to unincorporated associations unless they are legal entities that can hold property, sue, and be sued under the laws of the state where the property is located."   (your association will be the grantee.  A license, permit, lease or easement is considered a grant)

        Your project is approved, but before we can execute the license your Association must meet the requirements of our regulations.  I apologize in that I may not have made this clear enough to you.  No hurdle we can't get over.  Give me a call and we can discuss further.  Thanks, Dave.

        David J. Morbach
        Realty Specialist
        Army Corps of Engineers

        509-527-7326
        fax 527-7618


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      • Tom von Alten
        I asked a lawyer friend for some free legal advice, and he hasn t got right back to me. (Funny how that works.) My other lawyer friend is already busy helping
        Message 3 of 6 , Sep 30, 2008
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          I asked a lawyer friend for some free legal advice, and he hasn't
          got right back to me. (Funny how that works.) My other lawyer friend
          is already busy helping me with a lawsuit that's been filed against
          another non-profit I work for.

          I say graciously take Kay up on the offer to describe (and do?)
          what's needed if you all want to undertake this. I'd help with
          costs. I don't need any more volunteer jobs though.

          Personally, I feel much as Tom Cavaiani put it -- "sounds like
          too much hassle to me," but then I'm not putting in 30 or 50 days
          on the water in a year any more, either.

          It would be very generous--perhaps TOO generous--to have Eddy be
          on the hook with his own LLC.
          _____________
          Tom von Alten http://fortboise.org/
          tva@...

          ________________________________

          From: Gear Daddy LLC
          Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 3:57 PM
          Subject: Re: Corporation registration

          I have thrown that question out there to see if GD llc or some other
          llc would work but have not gotten an answer yet! To set up the LLC
          was $100 plus filing quarterly taxes. $0 in this sitiuation. I think
          they are going to request a non-profit Corp. Kay has said that she
          has set up corps before so maybe she can answer questions. The
          online thing is simple but will run +$150. Just more documention and
          money collection crap.

          I'm willing to put in minimum 5% of start up costs. So if ~19 others
          want to do the same we can move forward.
        • Gear Daddy LLC
          I think We need to look at the 501c7 it is less stringent and complex http://members.aol.com/irsform1023/misc/comp501s.html More to follow soon
          Message 4 of 6 , Sep 30, 2008
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            I think We need to look at the 501c7 it is less stringent and complex

            http://members.aol.com/irsform1023/misc/comp501s.html

            More to follow soon


            On 9/30/08 12:42 PM, "Jim VanDerHeyden" <jlv@...> wrote:

            >
            > Fun stuff guys...
            >
            > Does anybody in the group know a lawyer... it's my understanding that
            > BSA needs to be a legal org. recognized by the state.
            > A 501C3 status as a non profit, tax exempt organization, would do the
            > trick. Many organized sporting groups use this status, it might be
            > worth checking into.
            >
            > Jim V.
            >
            > On Sep 30, 8:28 am, "Jason Brickner" <jasonbrick...@...> wrote:
            >> .. then there is the legal risks and taxes.  Why didn't they mention this
            >> earlier on.  Maybe we want to get iWindsurf to take this on.
            >>
            >> Good grief.
            >>
            >> -Jason
            >>
            >>   _____  
            >>
            >> From: snowkiteid...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:snowkiteid...@yahoogroups.com]
            >> On Behalf Of Steve Linane
            >> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 8:07 PM
            >> To: snowkiteid...@yahoogroups.com
            >> Subject: Re: [snowkiteidaho] FW: Corporation registration
            >>
            >> I say we start looking for volunteers . a corporation heeds officers a
            >> President a treasurer and a sectary . if no one volunteers we give up on the
            >> project
            >>
            >> ----- Original Message -----
            >> From: Gear Daddy  <mailto:geardaddy...@...> LLC
            >> To: Snowkiteidaho <mailto:snowkiteid...@yahoogroups.com>  ; Boise Sailors
            >>
            >> <mailto:BoiseSailors@...>  
            >> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 4:15 PM
            >> Subject: [snowkiteidaho] FW: Corporation registration
            >>
            >> Ok guys,
            >>
            >> Now I need some help. A little frustrating I know...Tell me about it!!!
            >>
            >> A.C.E. needs our group registered as a corporation. All the paper work is
            >> complete for the wind meter, BUT our official group needs to be a
            >> corporation for the wind meter to be finalized (see email below).  I'm
            >> requiring some help to get this done.  So all those who have a bunch of free
            >> time not doing anything special????? I guess since I'm president I can
            >> dictate, Ask, Plead, beg someone to help make our group a corporation.
            >>
            >> Again this is only necessary if we want the wind meter. I'm happy with the
            >> current wind meters if we chose not to do this.  How much do we want a wind
            >> meter to make our group a corp? I'm sure there will have to be other
            >> official offices and documentation and fees.  I will continue to support the
            >> wind meter cause if others really want this.
            >>
            >> Please let me know if we should continue forward on this project. Please let
            >> your thoughts  or vote be known by Friday.
            >>
            >> Thanks
            >> Eddy Petranek
            >> epetra...@...
            >> 208-863-6966
            >>
            >> ------ Forwarded Message
            >> From: "Morbach, David  J NWW" <David.J.Morb...@...>
            >> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:29:30 -0700
            >> To: Eddy Petranek <epetra...@...>
            >> Cc: "Dunning, Joyce M NWW" <Joyce.M.Dunn...@...>, "Eskildsen,
            >> Robert D NWW" <Robert.D.Eskild...@...>
            >> Subject: Corporation registration
            >>
            >> Eddy:  I think you might have misunderstood my question on the authority to
            >> sign documents and the association itself.  Not a problem, we just need to
            >> get the Boise Sailors Association squared away as a legal entity.
            >>
            >> Our directives indicate that:  
            >>
            >> " Grants will not be made to unincorporated associations unless they are
            >> legal entities that can hold property, sue, and be sued under the laws of
            >> the state where the property is located."   (your association will be the
            >> grantee.  A license, permit, lease or easement is considered a grant)
            >>
            >> Your project is approved, but before we can execute the license your
            >> Association must meet the requirements of our regulations.  I apologize in
            >> that I may not have made this clear enough to you.  No hurdle we can't get
            >> over.  Give me a call and we can discuss further.  Thanks, Dave.
            >>
            >> David J. Morbach
            >> Realty Specialist
            >> Army Corps of Engineers
            >> 509-527-7326
            >> fax 527-7618
            >>
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            >>
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          • Jon Bolt
            Betsy, can you get us a copy of the non-profit form your group filled out & filed???
            Message 5 of 6 , Oct 1, 2008
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              Betsy, can you get us a copy of the non-profit form your group filled out & filed???

              On 10/1/08, Betsy Russell <bzrussell@...> wrote:
              I have been involved with the startup of a new nonprofit and I strongly recommend against trying to become a 501C3 or a 501 anything. Here's why: We had to become 501c3. It took a year and a half and thousands of dollars in legal fees, wrangling with the IRS, etc. This was four years ago and they were being very, very suspicious of new filings due, apparently, to concerns about terrorist ties.
                  I don't think that's required for BSA. We also became an Idaho nonprofit corporation, which was a simple filling out of a form naming officers and paying  a fee (I don't remember the amount, but I don't think it was very much). Yearly renewals are free - we just fill out a card with any updates on officers or address and mail it in.
                 Betsy


              On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Gear Daddy LLC <geardaddyllc@...> wrote:

              I think We need to look at the 501c7  it is less stringent and complex

              http://members.aol.com/irsform1023/misc/comp501s.html

              More to follow soon


              On 9/30/08 12:42 PM, "Jim VanDerHeyden" <jlv@...> wrote:

              >
              > Fun stuff guys...
              >
              > Does anybody in the group know a lawyer... it's my understanding that
              > BSA needs to be a legal org. recognized by the state.
              > A 501C3 status as a non profit, tax exempt organization, would do the
              > trick. Many organized sporting groups use this status, it might be
              > worth checking into.
              >
              > Jim V.
              >
              > On Sep 30, 8:28 am, "Jason Brickner" <jasonbrick...@...> wrote:
              >> .. then there is the legal risks and taxes.  Why didn't they mention this
              >> earlier on.  Maybe we want to get iWindsurf to take this on.
              >>
              >> Good grief.
              >>
              >> -Jason
              >>
              >>   _____  
              >>
              >> From: snowkiteid...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:snowkiteid...@yahoogroups.com]
              >> On Behalf Of Steve Linane
              >> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 8:07 PM
              >> To: snowkiteid...@yahoogroups.com
              >> Subject: Re: [snowkiteidaho] FW: Corporation registration
              >>
              >> I say we start looking for volunteers . a corporation heeds officers a
              >> President a treasurer and a sectary . if no one volunteers we give up on the
              >> project
              >>
              >> ----- Original Message -----
              >> From: Gear Daddy  <mailto:geardaddy...@...> LLC
              >> To: Snowkiteidaho <mailto:snowkiteid...@yahoogroups.com>  ; Boise Sailors
              >>
              >> <mailto:BoiseSailors@...>  
              >> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 4:15 PM
              >> Subject: [snowkiteidaho] FW: Corporation registration
              >>
              >> Ok guys,
              >>
              >> Now I need some help. A little frustrating I know...Tell me about it!!!
              >>
              >> A.C.E. needs our group registered as a corporation. All the paper work is
              >> complete for the wind meter, BUT our official group needs to be a
              >> corporation for the wind meter to be finalized (see email below).  I'm
              >> requiring some help to get this done.  So all those who have a bunch of free
              >> time not doing anything special????? I guess since I'm president I can
              >> dictate, Ask, Plead, beg someone to help make our group a corporation.
              >>
              >> Again this is only necessary if we want the wind meter. I'm happy with the
              >> current wind meters if we chose not to do this.  How much do we want a wind
              >> meter to make our group a corp? I'm sure there will have to be other
              >> official offices and documentation and fees.  I will continue to support the
              >> wind meter cause if others really want this.
              >>
              >> Please let me know if we should continue forward on this project. Please let
              >> your thoughts  or vote be known by Friday.
              >>
              >> Thanks
              >> Eddy Petranek
              >> epetra...@...
              >> 208-863-6966
              >>
              >> ------ Forwarded Message
              >> From: "Morbach, David  J NWW" <David.J.Morb...@...>
              >> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:29:30 -0700
              >> To: Eddy Petranek <epetra...@...>
              >> Cc: "Dunning, Joyce M NWW" <Joyce.M.Dunn...@...>, "Eskildsen,
              >> Robert D NWW" <Robert.D.Eskild...@...>
              >> Subject: Corporation registration
              >>
              >> Eddy:  I think you might have misunderstood my question on the authority to
              >> sign documents and the association itself.  Not a problem, we just need to
              >> get the Boise Sailors Association squared away as a legal entity.
              >>
              >> Our directives indicate that:  
              >>
              >> " Grants will not be made to unincorporated associations unless they are
              >> legal entities that can hold property, sue, and be sued under the laws of
              >> the state where the property is located."   (your association will be the
              >> grantee.  A license, permit, lease or easement is considered a grant)
              >>
              >> Your project is approved, but before we can execute the license your
              >> Association must meet the requirements of our regulations.  I apologize in
              >> that I may not have made this clear enough to you.  No hurdle we can't get
              >> over.  Give me a call and we can discuss further.  Thanks, Dave.
              >>
              >> David J. Morbach
              >> Realty Specialist
              >> Army Corps of Engineers
              >> 509-527-7326
              >> fax 527-7618
              >>
              >> ------ End of Forwarded Message
              >>
              >>
              > >




               


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            • Kay Walst6on
              yes..it was the 5013c that i was thinking about too.  Did them to start up programs with government grants which means....a lot of work and paperwork.  I
              Message 6 of 6 , Oct 1, 2008
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                yes..it was the 5013c that i was thinking about too.  Did them to start up programs with government grants which means....a lot of work and paperwork.  I agree, don't think we need that....let's just stick with the LLC...then we're protected.
                let me know what you guys think.
                Kay

                --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Jon Bolt <idakiteman@...> wrote:
                From: Jon Bolt <idakiteman@...>
                Subject: [snowkiteidaho] Re: [BSA] Re: FW: Corporation registration
                To: "Betsy Russell" <bzrussell@...>
                Cc: "Gear Daddy LLC" <geardaddyllc@...>, "Jim VanDerHeyden" <jlv@...>, "Boise Sailors" <BoiseSailors@...>, "Snowkiteidaho" <snowkiteidaho@yahoogroups.com>
                Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 1:14 PM

                Betsy, can you get us a copy of the non-profit form your group filled out & filed???

                On 10/1/08, Betsy Russell <bzrussell@gmail. com> wrote:
                I have been involved with the startup of a new nonprofit and I strongly recommend against trying to become a 501C3 or a 501 anything. Here's why: We had to become 501c3. It took a year and a half and thousands of dollars in legal fees, wrangling with the IRS, etc. This was four years ago and they were being very, very suspicious of new filings due, apparently, to concerns about terrorist ties.
                    I don't think that's required for BSA. We also became an Idaho nonprofit corporation, which was a simple filling out of a form naming officers and paying  a fee (I don't remember the amount, but I don't think it was very much). Yearly renewals are free - we just fill out a card with any updates on officers or address and mail it in.
                   Betsy


                On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Gear Daddy LLC <geardaddyllc@ gmail.com> wrote:

                I think We need to look at the 501c7  it is less stringent and complex

                http://members. aol.com/irsform1 023/misc/ comp501s. html

                More to follow soon


                On 9/30/08 12:42 PM, "Jim VanDerHeyden" <jlv@cableone. net> wrote:

                >
                > Fun stuff guys...
                >
                > Does anybody in the group know a lawyer... it's my understanding that
                > BSA needs to be a legal org. recognized by the state.
                > A 501C3 status as a non profit, tax exempt organization, would do the
                > trick. Many organized sporting groups use this status, it might be
                > worth checking into.
                >
                > Jim V.
                >
                > On Sep 30, 8:28 am, "Jason Brickner" <jasonbrick.. .@...> wrote:
                >> .. then there is the legal risks and taxes.  Why didn't they mention this
                >> earlier on.  Maybe we want to get iWindsurf to take this on.
                >>
                >> Good grief.
                >>
                >> -Jason
                >>
                >>   _____  
                >>
                >> From: snowkiteid.. .@yahoogroups. com [mailto:snowkiteid.. .@yahoogroups. com]
                >> On Behalf Of Steve Linane
                >> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 8:07 PM
                >> To: snowkiteid.. .@yahoogroups. com
                >> Subject: Re: [snowkiteidaho] FW: Corporation registration
                >>
                >> I say we start looking for volunteers . a corporation heeds officers a
                >> President a treasurer and a sectary . if no one volunteers we give up on the
                >> project
                >>
                >> ----- Original Message -----
                >> From: Gear Daddy  <mailto:geardaddy... @...> LLC
                >> To: Snowkiteidaho <mailto:snowkiteid.. .@yahoogroups. com>  ; Boise Sailors
                >>
                >> <mailto:BoiseSailors@ googlegroups. com>  
                >> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 4:15 PM
                >> Subject: [snowkiteidaho] FW: Corporation registration
                >>
                >> Ok guys,
                >>
                >> Now I need some help. A little frustrating I know...Tell me about it!!!
                >>
                >> A.C.E. needs our group registered as a corporation. All the paper work is
                >> complete for the wind meter, BUT our official group needs to be a
                >> corporation for the wind meter to be finalized (see email below).  I'm
                >> requiring some help to get this done.  So all those who have a bunch of free
                >> time not doing anything special????? I guess since I'm president I can
                >> dictate, Ask, Plead, beg someone to help make our group a corporation.
                >>
                >> Again this is only necessary if we want the wind meter. I'm happy with the
                >> current wind meters if we chose not to do this.  How much do we want a wind
                >> meter to make our group a corp? I'm sure there will have to be other
                >> official offices and documentation and fees.  I will continue to support the
                >> wind meter cause if others really want this.
                >>
                >> Please let me know if we should continue forward on this project. Please let
                >> your thoughts  or vote be known by Friday.
                >>
                >> Thanks
                >> Eddy Petranek
                >> epetra...@gmail. com
                >> 208-863-6966
                >>
                >> ------ Forwarded Message
                >> From: "Morbach, David  J NWW" <David.J.Morb. ..@usace. army.mil>
                >> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:29:30 -0700
                >> To: Eddy Petranek <epetra...@gmail. com>
                >> Cc: "Dunning, Joyce M NWW" <Joyce.M.Dunn. ..@usace. army.mil>, "Eskildsen,
                >> Robert D NWW" <Robert.D.Eskild. ..@usace. army.mil>
                >> Subject: Corporation registration
                >>
                >> Eddy:  I think you might have misunderstood my question on the authority to
                >> sign documents and the association itself.  Not a problem, we just need to
                >> get the Boise Sailors Association squared away as a legal entity.
                >>
                >> Our directives indicate that:  
                >>
                >> " Grants will not be made to unincorporated associations unless they are
                >> legal entities that can hold property, sue, and be sued under the laws of
                >> the state where the property is located."   (your association will be the
                >> grantee.  A license, permit, lease or easement is considered a grant)
                >>
                >> Your project is approved, but before we can execute the license your
                >> Association must meet the requirements of our regulations.  I apologize in
                >> that I may not have made this clear enough to you.  No hurdle we can't get
                >> over.  Give me a call and we can discuss further.  Thanks, Dave.
                >>
                >> David J. Morbach
                >> Realty Specialist
                >> Army Corps of Engineers
                >> 509-527-7326
                >> fax 527-7618
                >>
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