Weather station Update
- We all really appreciate the research Jim has done. Working with anything
government related is time consuming. I, like others, want something sooner
than later and willing to pay for it now!
I agree it would be nice to have a RAWS station up there that is reliable
and maintained by others. But that type of station is expensive and would
need the outside funding. The station that Jason has researched is much less
expensive but I would not call it cheap. However, it is much higher quality
then the station I have at my house that has been running for 5 yrs. It
would be great to have a RAWS and our station up there b/c of the typical
technical issues that come with projects like this. So let's not give up on
I have to get a letter of intention written up in order to use the pump
house and RV hut for the base station of the wind meter. It is correct about
the roof acting as a ramp and compressing the wind on the meter. This will
probably throw the gauge off by 10%, however the land mass (boat ramp)
itself is a bigger ramp and it will throw the gauge of by +20%. This is
something we will have to compensate for in our own heads unless we can
write the software to scale down the reading???
As far as lightning protection, I don't think "L. Rods" do much. If the
building gets hit; then they have bigger issues, and that building is a
lightning rod by layman definitions. I planned on just a small pole above
the roof to support the station maybe 3' tall, but will work on a taller
station pole with guy wires. Pole could be made out of sch 80 pvc and we
would get 10 years out of it. Far longer then I would expect station to
last, and by that time maybe a RAWS will be constructed. It is also feasible
that we take the station down at end of season to prolong its lifespan.
Jason has the expertise to connect a computer he is donating. CPU will be
located in pump station and get the info out to websites of choice. The idea
to put on a camera was brought up and Jason also said "No Problem!"
I'm working with Keith and he mentioned all kinds of past attempts and what
he thought was going on. A.C.E. has no real interest in putting up station,
so if we want a wind reading then it is up to us.
So far, with all the pledges I have received we should have enough funds
with what has been pledged. It would be nice to have everyone put in the
minimum (~$25 or any amount), so that we all contribute equally. I will
still need a few more pledges to get the funds (with the minimum pledge), so
if you want to help out please let me know. If we cannot get everyone to put
up; I will still hope that I can fall back on some of higher and very
generous pledges if needed.
From: BoiseSailors@... [mailto:BoiseSailors@...]
On Behalf Of Jim VanDerHeyden
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:52 PM
To: Boise Sailors Association
Subject: [BSA] Weather station
Update on weather station situation...
In getting back to previous emails that I have forwarded last year.
The waterways funding group denied even the possibility of getting a
grant after I spent severals hours in the grant writing workshop last
fall. So that is a no go situation. I met Keith then and we discussed
other funding options, ie other grants... but I have not had the time
to get back to him since then.
From all of the research that I have done so far, an inexpensive
station will not be ideal. There will be more maintenance issues over
time on less expensive stations... which will cause funding issues as
well. Secondly sitting to low to the roof will not give an accurate
wind reading, it will act like a ramp. It would require a tripod base
and extension of at least five feet above the roof top to be accurate.
This creates a problem, it becomes a lightning rod... just like the
previous station that was mounted on the dam that was removed because
it got hit to many times by lightning and cost $800.00 to fix each
time it was hit. SO, we would need a lightning rod or two to protect
the station. The stations I found that were the most reliable and
required the least amount of maintenance were in the $3,000 to $5,000
range. Very expensive.
I talked with Joyce early in the summer about getting access to power
and a phone line at the host station and she gave us permission at
that time. I then talked with the people at Weather Underground last
summer and they have software that will send the information from the
station to there web site and post it for free. But we would need a
computer, modem and router to do so. I then talked with Joyce again at
the end of last summer about the possibility of using the pump house
next to the host station for housing the equipment and she agreed.
So, the question is, funding to purchase and install the equipment, as
well as maintenance costs over time.
My next step was to find out if the Gov. would install a RAWS at the
dam, with lightening rods to protect it this time. It would solve
everything. But I have not done any further research into this option.
Keith would be the next step.
Later, Jim V.
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