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Re: [smygo] IFC Message of Solidarity to Brothers & Sisters in US Anti-War Movement

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  • Ilan Shalif
    ... It is not libertarian at all. It is one kind or another of statist socialists. The immediate goal of the IFC is to seize power and establish a provisional
    Message 1 of 4 , Oct 10, 2010
      Dan Clore wrote:
      > News& Views for Anarchists& Activists:
      > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/smygo
      >
      > [The Iraq Freedom Congress is a libertarian, secular, non-violent,
      > democratic, and progressive group that opposes Ba'athism, Islamism, and
      > nationalism -- as well as the US invasion/occupation.

      It is not libertarian at all. It is one kind or another of statist socialists.

      The immediate goal of the IFC is to seize power and establish a provisional secular and
      non-ethnic government, declare the following articles as the laws of the land and
      guarantee their implementation:

      They also say:

      Delegation of powers to the assembly of the direct representatives of people to decide
      on the future political regime and drafting a constitution within a maximum period of six
      months.

      However, to my knowledge they never denonced clearly party politics or state capitalism.
      Ilan
    • Andy Robinson
      They re a creation of the Worker-Communist Party of Iraq ( http://www.wpiraq.net/english/). WCPI are Marxist-Humanists, whidh mqkes them roughly the same
      Message 2 of 4 , Oct 11, 2010
        They're a creation of the Worker-Communist Party of Iraq (
        http://www.wpiraq.net/english/). WCPI are Marxist-Humanists, whidh mqkes
        them roughly the same tendency as the News and Letters groups in America and
        The Hobgoblin in the UK (though they have their own theoretical derivation,
        from Mansoor Hekmat). I'm pretty sure they're down in our quadrant (bottom
        left on political compass) and libertarian to that extent, but they're
        Marxist rather than anarchist, very definitely a party, and therefore
        treading a bit of a contradiction between ends and means. There's also been
        a split in the worker-communist groups in Iraq and Iran (
        http://www.socialismnow.org/index1.html is the other wing), and the wing
        that created the IFC is viewed by the others as the reformist/rightist of
        the two groups, because of the compromise involved in the IFC initiative
        (which if I understand it, is based on a 'stageist' theory where the final
        revolution will be proceeded by a liberal/secular revolution). Both groups
        are also extremely militant secularists, and in Britain they've been behind
        the "One Law for All Campaign", directed against multicultural recognition
        of Islamic civil law - this would seem to imply an endorsement of the state
        as the source of law. N&L get a stall at the Anarchist Bookfair, which most
        of the left don't, but then again, they're not a party. Still, if we're
        measuring degrees of affinity then I can't think of a closer group in Iraq
        today. This article:
        http://divergences.be/spip.php?article446&lang=fr suggests there were
        anarcho-syndicalists in Iraq in the 70s/80s who assassinated Ba'athist
        officials, crossed into Iran after 1979, and were mostly massacred by
        Khomeini. (FWCUI and UUI, mentioned in this article as 'progressive forces'
        in Iraq, are also Worker-Communist creations).


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      • Dan Clore
        ... Thanks. I intended the word libertarian in the broader sense, rather than including anarchists and only anarchists. As you say, on the Political Compass,
        Message 3 of 4 , Oct 13, 2010
          Andy Robinson wrote:

          > They're a creation of the Worker-Communist Party of Iraq (
          > http://www.wpiraq.net/english/). WCPI are Marxist-Humanists, whidh
          > mqkes them roughly the same tendency as the News and Letters groups
          > in America and The Hobgoblin in the UK (though they have their own
          > theoretical derivation, from Mansoor Hekmat). I'm pretty sure
          > they're down in our quadrant (bottom left on political compass) and
          > libertarian to that extent, but they're Marxist rather than
          > anarchist, very definitely a party, and therefore treading a bit of a
          > contradiction between ends and means.

          Thanks. I intended the word "libertarian" in the broader sense, rather
          than including anarchists and only anarchists. As you say, on the
          Political Compass, they would clearly fall in the Libertarian Left
          quadrant, pretty close to the collectivist wing of traditional anarchism.

          I encourage everyone to visit the IFC website
          (http://www.ifcongress.com/English/index.htm ) and check out their
          manifesto, which is clearly mostly libertarian (the exceptions being
          social-welfare measures), along with the other documents there. It is
          truly a shame that this group has not received the attention it deserves.

          --
          Dan Clore

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