- By the way. While the schematic isn t up to date, as I said, it s MUCH cleaner than the one I had. Thanks. =MMessage 1 of 23 , Jan 25, 2010View SourceBy the way. While the schematic isn't up to date, as I said, it's MUCH cleaner than the one I had. Thanks.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "y2kvaguy" <y2kvaguy@...> wrote:
> Doh! That schematic isn't up to date. That schematic shows J1 with 5 pins. I don't have a board with me to compare reference designators, but my boards have J1 and J2, each of which has 4 pins, rather than 5. I've figured out where to wire the power supplies, but not which pins are "data in" versus "data out." I suppose I can find out via experimentation.
> Aside from the documentation, I like these Smartsockets. There was obviously a bit of thought that went into the design, and they're nice and compact. I dismantled an old 68030 PGA socket (remember those?) and used the pins for my ZM1350s. They're a nice snug fit on the pins, and they work well in the Smartsocket. Note: if anyone else tries this approach, make sure that the pins will fit the ZM1350 BEFORE going to all the trouble. I have more than one of these sockets, and not all of them will accept the pins of the ZM1350.
> Anyway, before I trash up the forum with asked-and-answered questions, I'm off to troll about the archives. Thanks for the help.
> --- In email@example.com, michail1@ wrote:
> > I looked at the link you provided to the website.
> > There is a link to the schematic on it.
> > _http://www.askjanfirst.com/dindex.htm?/r5.htm_
> > (http://www.askjanfirst.com/dindex.htm?/r5.htm)
> > In a message dated 1/23/2010 2:05:38 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, y2kvaguy
> > @... writes:
> > Jan, et al -
> > In response to your earlier message, I purchased some of the new
> > smartsockets. I located a source for suitable pins for the ZM1350 that I'm using,
> > and got those soldered in.
> > I was hoping that the documentation in the files area on this group would
> > apply, but apparently, the boards I have are a respin and the reference
> > designators appear to have changed. Where can I find an up-to-date schematic
> > and assembly drawing for these new boards? I checked your (Jan's) website,
> > and eventually the links led to this discussion group. I'm capable of
> > reverse-engineering the PCB and figuring it out myself, but that's a real hassle
> > that I'd like to avoid.
> > I would also be interested in the voltage and current levels others are
> > using to drive the ZM1350 tube in a non-multiplexed configuration. I've been
> > trying different levels of both current and voltage, and the tubes I have
> > tried can't light up the length of any segment completely without bleeding
> > and generally looking like a poisoned tube. I've only tried 2 of the 10 I've
> > purchased, just in case there's something I've done to wreck them. I'm
> > pretty savvy about electronics, but I don't have a lot of specific experience
> > with nixie tubes. I'd really like to get these ZM1350 tubes working, though.
> > I'm powering them with a neonixie supply that is adjustable from about
> > 135-190vdc, and I haven't taken it over about 160.
> > Thanks in advance.
> > -M
> > --- In _smartsockets@smartsocketssma_ (mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org)
> > , "Jan Wuesten" <fjz@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Group,
> > >
> > > I am happy to announce that the Smartsockets for the ZM1350 Nixie
> > > Varisymbol (Telefunken) are available from stock now.
> > >
> > > We supply
> > >
> > > tubes ZM 1350
> > > the Smartsocket PCB, modified and improved, see below for
> > > modification
> > > the PIC programmed with the software.
> > >
> > > All info, pricing etc. on our site:
> > >
> > > www.askjanfirst. www.askjan
> > >
> > > right below the scopeclock chapter.
- To: email@example.com From: y2kvaguy Date sent: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:54:31 -0000 Subject:Message 2 of 23 , Jan 25, 2010View SourceTo: firstname.lastname@example.org
From: "y2kvaguy" <y2kvaguy@...>
Date sent: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:54:31 -0000
Subject: [smartsockets] Re: ZM 1350 Varisymbol smartsockets available
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> Hi, Jan -links to a couple of videos showing the "dancing segments" test on a
> Yeah, I exchanged messages with you and you mentioned "over-" something, and I forgot if it was current or voltage, and was unsure about how much. I don't know if the power supplies I'm using will go as much as 25% over-voltage (212v), but they may approach that.
> I read a rather detailed web page about testing of the ZM1350 tubes, and I'm pretty sure it was one of your pages. You documented the effects of various "error" conditions, for example, what too little or too much voltage did to the display's appearance. Similarly, how to see when you have enough (but not too much) current. It was a very informative discussion, but when I tried to find it again, I couldn't. (sometimes I get too absorbed in the reading, and forget to set a bookmark) There were also
good display, and the visually interesting "dancing segments" that
resulted from a badly poisoned display. It was the kind of thing
that looks really cool, but is probably very difficult to reproduce.
I'd like to find that page again.
if it was mine it´s www.askjanfirst.com/zm1350.htm
>age of transistors and IC's. I don't know how hard or
> I may have mentioned that I'm a product of the
easy it is to "kill" a ZM1350, but I'd rather not perform
any destructive testing. If I have to burn them
in for a while at elevated voltage, that's fine,
I just don't want to cause damage.
its far easier to destroy if you drop it from the table ;-))
> I'm going to be running these displays unmultiplexedbecause it's said to be easier on the displays.
You don't have to drive them as hard if they're always on,
and you don't have the mechanical stress of switching.
(Apparently, the segments can make noise if switched
hard at audio frequencies.)
this is far more of concern with usual nixies as their electrodes are
The ZM1350 electrodes are tied to the bootom plate of the tube and
should be quiet.
>like a FLW/clock.
> Well, I'm off to try to find code to emulate something
there is some stuff in the neonixie-L- archives
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