Re: [sig] Povoinik Pattern Anyone?
- Okay since the people who really know more about this subject might be at
Pensic, check these sites out.
http://slavic.freeservers.com/ this is the main page for the Slavic Interest
http://medievalrussia.freeservers.com/dress-female.html okay after much
searching this page might have a link to what your talking about, it has
hats at least. Go down to the section of external links to find them.
lovely photo of a woman modeling a female Rus' outfit. She is wearing a
rubakha (shirt) with a blue plaid panova (also called a paneva). (this is a
different link than is one the page above but I believe this is the picture
its talking about)
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~chrisandpeter/trmain/tr1main.html Rus' temple
rings article (I don't know if this one is on the russia dress page but it
http://www.caerthe.org/TheWardrobe/kokoshnik.html I don't think this is in
the russian dress page but here it is.
http://www.ic.omskreg.ru/~folklore/mk/golovn/index_.shtml article with
drawing of various russian headdresses.
I did a search on kokshnik and found these sites; some look like they are
selling them but the pictures may give some more idea on how you want yours
to look like.
http://www.sunbirds.com/lacquer/readings/1132 russian fairytales and stuff
got to go boy chick's crying something fierce...
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Subject: [sig] Povoinik Pattern Anyone?
> > I may be spelling it wrong but this is the married womans headdress. I
> been looking and am finding a few pictures but no patterns and I thought
> someone here would have one?
> In the dark with my head uncovered...lol
- Thank You, some of these sites I had not found and they are great. It
is still looking like no one really has firm ideas about patterns
though. But some these pictures show do give me more to go on. Thanks
- --- In email@example.com, "Marilyn Kinyon" <lynx@c...> wrote:
> Thank You, some of these sites I had not found and they are great.It
> is still looking like no one really has firm ideas about patternsThanks
> though. But some these pictures show do give me more to go on.
> so Much..Dear Marilyn,
I can't say I'm very into patterns for clothesmaking, but I was given
an ENORMOUS encyclopaedia of Russian folk culture by my Girlfriend
for my last birthday, so you prompted me into checking out what it
had to say about povoiniki.
THere's a big fat entry on their use [always to be worn under some
other form of headress, except in the early twentieth century when a
ttrend developed for wearing them separately] and social context and
some drawings of different kinds from different provinces but no
patterns I'm afraid. Still, if you're interested I can always scan
the pictures for you. Can you read Russian?
The book has millions of patterns for the more complex clothing of
the Russkiy Krestyanin so if anyone wants a pic of any other costume
I'd be happy to help. I wouldn't like to set a precedent in
translating huge reams of text, but I could do that on the povoinik
if you like.
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I have seen two basic patterns for the povoinik. The simplest is a circle of
fabric gathered onto a narrow fabric band that goes around the forehead to the
back of the neck where it is tied. This works quite nicely with a mesh "knit"
fabric substituted for the circle. (This mesh style is called the voloshnik).
Another version I've seen requires 3 pieces of fabric. An oval piece to cover
the top of the head, a narrow band attached to the edge of the oval piece to go
horizontally around to the back of the head, plus a half-circle to hang down
from the back of the narrow band and gathered at its edge to control the hair
at the back of the neck.
I'm sorry I don't have pattern sketches for you. Good luck.
Sofya la Rus
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- I think this is the book I'm thinking of (if I remember the title sort of
right); this show some black and white photos of some of the headresses, I
like that fact that it shows several of the pearl drapes too, in fact one of
them is not pearls but cut mother of pearl shell beads. check at you library
for it. I just put a hold on my public library copy of this one and another
of russian stuff so I will post a picture to the list files of the
headresses and drapes I remember being in it.--kathws
Embroidery of all Russia / by Mary Gostelow ;
line ill. and designs drawn and executed by the author, maps by John E.
New York : Scribner, c1977. isbn 0684151847
Subject: Re: [sig] Re: Povoinik Pattern Anyone?
> I have seen two basic patterns for the povoinik. The simplest is a circleof
> fabric gathered onto a narrow fabric band that goes around the forehead tothe
> back of the neck where it is tied. This works quite nicely with a mesh"knit"
> fabric substituted for the circle. (This mesh style is called thevoloshnik).
> Another version I've seen requires 3 pieces of fabric. An oval piece to
> the top of the head, a narrow band attached to the edge of the oval pieceto go
> horizontally around to the back of the head, plus a half-circle to hangdown
> from the back of the narrow band and gathered at its edge to control thehair
> at the back of the neck.
> I'm sorry I don't have pattern sketches for you. Good luck.
> In service,
> Sofya la Rus