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Vocab. question: pagan priests

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  • Alastair Millar
    According to my trusty Akademicky slovnik cizich slov , z rec [zhrets] is the correct word in Czech for a pagan priest particularly among the Slavs .
    Message 1 of 6 , Jun 3, 2003
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      According to my trusty 'Akademicky slovnik cizich slov', "z'rec" [zhrets] is
      the correct word in Czech for a pagan priest ""particularly among the
      Slavs"". Said z'rec made the sacrifice of the "z'ertva" [zhertva] or
      offerings.

      The origin for both words is claimed as Russian... can anyone confirm the
      original Russian words please? (And I'm assuming that the roots lie rather
      deeper than in contemporary Russian, but who knows...?)

      Cheers!

      Alastair

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    • Alex Grant [T]
      There are also related Russian words, volhv and kudesnik But I am not sure of the origins. ... is
      Message 2 of 6 , Jun 3, 2003
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        There are also related Russian words, "volhv" and "kudesnik"
        But I am not sure of the origins.


        > According to my trusty 'Akademicky slovnik cizich slov', "z'rec" [zhrets]
        is
        > the correct word in Czech for a pagan priest ""particularly among the
        > Slavs"". Said z'rec made the sacrifice of the "z'ertva" [zhertva] or
        > offerings.
        >
        > The origin for both words is claimed as Russian... can anyone confirm the
        > original Russian words please? (And I'm assuming that the roots lie rather
        > deeper than in contemporary Russian, but who knows...?)
        >
        > Cheers!
        >
        > Alastair
      • Dmitriy Ryaboy
        Zhrets is the contemporary Russian word. The female form is zhritsa , and the word for sacrifice is zhertva. Don t know the etymology. -Dmitriy ...
        Message 3 of 6 , Jun 3, 2003
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          "Zhrets" is the contemporary Russian word.
          The female form is "zhritsa", and the word for sacrifice is "zhertva."
          Don't know the etymology.

          -Dmitriy

          --- In sig@yahoogroups.com, "Alastair Millar" <alastair@i...> wrote:
          > According to my trusty 'Akademicky slovnik cizich slov', "z'rec"
          [zhrets] is
          > the correct word in Czech for a pagan priest ""particularly among the
          > Slavs"". Said z'rec made the sacrifice of the "z'ertva" [zhertva] or
          > offerings.
          >
          > The origin for both words is claimed as Russian... can anyone
          confirm the
          > original Russian words please? (And I'm assuming that the roots lie
          rather
          > deeper than in contemporary Russian, but who knows...?)
          >
          > Cheers!
          >
          > Alastair
          >
          > -----------------------------------------------------
          > Alastair Millar BSc (Hons) - alastair@i...
          > Translation & Consultancy for the Heritage Industry
          > P.O. Box 11, CZ 413 01 Roudnice, Czech Republic
        • MHoll@aol.com
          Zhrets is the usual word for pagan priest in Russian, still used today. Zhertva means sacrifice or victim even today (sacrifice -- on purpose; or
          Message 4 of 6 , Jun 3, 2003
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            "Zhrets" is the usual word for pagan priest in Russian, still used today.
            "Zhertva" means "sacrifice" or "victim" even today (sacrifice -- on purpose; or
            victime, a sacrifice by accident, in effect). I don't have a dictionary at hand
            to date the words.

            Predslava.


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          • Alexey Kiyaikin
            Greetings Alastair! Tuesday, June 03, 2003, 6:12:07 PM, you wrote: AM According to my trusty Akademicky slovnik cizich slov , z rec [zhrets] is AM the
            Message 5 of 6 , Jun 3, 2003
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              Greetings Alastair!

              Tuesday, June 03, 2003, 6:12:07 PM, you wrote:

              AM> According to my trusty 'Akademicky slovnik cizich slov', "z'rec" [zhrets] is
              AM> the correct word in Czech for a pagan priest ""particularly among the
              AM> Slavs"". Said z'rec made the sacrifice of the "z'ertva" [zhertva] or
              AM> offerings.

              AM> The origin for both words is claimed as Russian... can anyone confirm the
              Old Russian maybe? The verb zherati (first vowel is the same sound &
              letter as the first vowel in "Bulgaria") - sacrifice as a priest - is
              mentioned in Old Russian texts depicting events of 10-12 centuries.
              AM> original Russian words please? (And I'm assuming that the roots lie rather
              AM> deeper than in contemporary Russian, but who knows...?)
              Maybe it's indoeuropean, but I'm no specialist in shifting of
              consonants in the course of years. At least, "druid" has different
              meaning, as well as "wlkodlak", etc.

              --
              Bye,
              Alex mailto:Posadnik@...
            • Alastair Millar
              Thanks to all who answered on this one... nice to have a check on the dictionaries every now and then! Alastair
              Message 6 of 6 , Jun 5, 2003
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                Thanks to all who answered on this one... nice to have a check on the
                dictionaries every now and then!

                Alastair
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