Re: [sig] Introducing myself and re bohemian womens names
- Annah writes...
>First time posting here...Welcome! :-)
There are indeed some people interested in Bohemia (as well as Moravia and
Slovakia) on the list, so hopefully you'll find answers to some questions
here as well as like-minded people to explore new things with! The Czech
Knowledge Pages < http://scholar76.tripod.com/czech/ > are definitely the
place to start, as these have (or have links to) a very wide range of
useful info., and the material is all quite recent.
With regard to names...
Royal genealogies are usually fairly accurate, but there's always the
danger for women's names that the name is actually a foreign one! (In fact,
this came up recently here on the list, with the Bohemian Doubrava,
daughter of Boleslav I 'the Cruel', married off to Poland... where no-one
has yet found any other evidence for that name's use in period)
The first page of the genealogy you gave <
http://genealogy.euweb.cz/pan/bohemia.html > (the "King List", if you
will), seems pretty accurate, albeit that since it's in ASCII you're not
getting all the hooks and accents that make Czech such fun... It *does*,
however, seem to use the accepted Czech names.
The detailed genealogies, by contrast, are a total disaster area in terms
of being useful for names (although the accompanying historical information
seems accurate at first glance). Taking "The Premyslids" as an example, we
have a unique transliteration system used for some names (e.g. "Borzivoj"),
while others are Anglicized ("Judith"), some are pseudo-Westernised
("Spitignev"), others are left in Czech (Vaclav, Konrad) and the
occasional German name is thrown in to boot ("Ulrich")!!. I really REALLY
wouldn't want to rely on this as a source for names - it's just too
pick-and-mix and has no internal consistency. Oh and incidentally it uses
the German system of titles too, which is controversial to say the least...
If there are specific individuals whose names you'd like to check (no pun
intended!), please let me know and I'll try looking them up in my own
library to find the accepted Czech forms. For what it's worth I am in the
process of putting together a list of documented Czech names (male and
female) from some of the sources that I have - but it may be quite some
time before this is ready (not least because I'll be away from Dec. 19th to
Jan. 5th.). In the meantime, feel free (of course!) to throw any questions
about naming practices or anything else onto the list - there are people
here with all kinds of interests!
All the best
Alastair Millar, BSc(Hons) - alastair@...
Consultancy and translation for the heritage industry
P.O.Box 11, CZ 413 01 Roudnice, Czech Republic