Re: [sig] "buttons"
- Greetings Sasha!
>If I get you right, you need the images of "razgovory". They are not
> Hopefully this is going to be an easy one. I'm trying to track
> down close-up images of the knot & frog closures typical on men's
only men-dress ones, the construction is the same with women's dress.
Secondly, the construction was taken from the east. The Chinese wushu
"pyjamas" carry same type of fasteners. Same things can be seen,
say, in women's traditional dress of many small nations of northern
Caucasus, being the descendants of medieval nomads. Try the
corresponding entry at Russian-speaking site www.balcaria.narod.ru .
There is a scientific work on Balcarian traditional costume, which
included multiple fasteners of that kind on the breast.
> coats. I primarily focused on 16th century Moscow, Kiev, orThe thing is Novgorod became a provincial town by then, losing much of
its value & glory after Ivan III destroyed its independence. It's much
better to focus on either Moscow (lots of gifts to/from the tsar) or
closest neighbors (same reason), if I got right that you need XVI century
of those cities. Try searching for any images from Oruzheinaya
Palata of Moscow Kremlin (usually referred to as the Armory, but it is
only the collection of gifts to the tsar and things considered
valuable since XV century), or Istoricheski Musei (State Historic
Museum), as it has collected the biggest ever collection of
- --- Alexey Kiyaikin <Posadnik@...> wrote:
> If I get you right, you need the images of"Conversations"?? I'd love to know the etymology of
this word in this context!
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- Greetings all!
> "Conversations"?? I'd love to know the etymology ofGod knows, I don't. This term marks, to be precise, the bands of cloth
> this word in this context!
(Hungarians used cords)
sewn across the breast, to which the button and the eye were attached.
At least, when the Russian uniform mark 1916 (army troops never saw
it, the whole lot was used only in 1918, so it got its fame as the
uniform of Soviet cavalry) was designed - by "traditionalist" artists
Vasnetsov & AFAIR Bilibin, - to remind of old Russian costume & armor,
the term already was rather old, and in that case it meant bands of
cloth, covering the hooks/buttons on the front. You may see it in the
corresponding Osprey books about Red Army.