Re: Slavic paganism
- Hi Posadnik and Predslava!
Rybakov wrote his book in 1981, not 1994; that must be the year your copy
As far as his academic efforts, Predslava isn't exactly the first to accuse
him of over-extrapolating. Prof. Ivanits put it best, I think, when she
said that "B. A. Rybakov has been especially daring in his attempts to
expand our knowledge of Russian paganism." Note that she goes on using his
material throughout her book -- but carefully, which is the key
The thing with Rybakov is that he puts something from the 10th century
together with somehing from the 19th century with amazing ease and grace as
long as it fits his concept. His goal wasn't finding what Slavs parcticed,
but rather generating a feasible, rich, and complete system based on a slew
of informatin from different fields. While some results gathered this way
are perfectly valid -- given enough evidence -- others aren't quite as much.
For example, in the song Posadnik quotes --
> - A mi proso seyali, seyali,No, that's not continuity. The Beatles sing "obladi-oblada." Are there
> Oi, did Lado, seyali, seyali -
> and there is evidence of Lada the goddess, is it a followed
echoes of Slavic paganism in that song? It's a refrain that's common almost
Rybakov's book is bold and daring, and by far the most thorough and
encompassing work on the subject so far -- but it's still speculative and
over-bold in places, and is to be treated with caution. Come, Alexey, you
are the one who warned me about Kirpichnikov -- who occupies a no less
distinguished position in his area of study than does Rybakov.
> Povest Vremennykh LetLots have been "re-discovered", too -- although many do, like our
> traces Russian history to eneolythic times, and I call this
> continuity. Lots of then existing complexes of beliefs still exist.
unwillingness to hand anything across the door -- you either have to invite
a visitor inside, or step outside with him. Has to do with the whole
outside/inside spirits dichotomy... Americans do not do this -- which makes
for a bit of an uncomfortable situation with the pizza guy! :)
When you say that PVL traces history to eneolythic times -- what exactly are
you talking about? I think it's been pretty universally accepted,
particularly by Soviet anti-Normanism scholars, that even its 9th century
material (what with the famous 862 "varangians called Russes" entry) is
Off to do more Estrella packing,
"The official SIG debunker of the Book of Veles"