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  • Trudy A Plotz
    I am thinking of developing a second persona from either Ceska Trebova, Bohemia or Domasov, Ivancice, Brno, Moravia set in the late middle ages or early
    Message 1 of 5 , Aug 31, 2000
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      I am thinking of developing a second persona from either Ceska Trebova,
      Bohemia or Domasov, Ivancice, Brno, Moravia set in the late middle ages
      or early Renaissance. (I have ancestors from those two areas of the now
      Czech Republic) I am asking for the titles, authors, and ISBN numbers
      of reference materials that the list members recommend to beginners. They
      do not have to be place specific except to Bohemia or Moravia. Beside
      history primers, good period garb and naming practise information help
      will be greatly appreciated!

      Thank you,
      Lady Saranna
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    • Alastair Millar
      M Lady Saranna wrote... ... You have excellent taste! (me? biased? you betcha!). ... The general problem with the Czech Republic is that very little has been
      Message 2 of 5 , Sep 1 12:21 AM
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        M'Lady Saranna wrote...

        >I am thinking of developing a second persona from either
        >Ceska Trebova, Bohemia or Domasov, Ivancice, Brno,
        >Moravia set in the late middle ages or early Renaissance.

        You have excellent taste! (me? biased? you betcha!).

        >I am asking for the titles, authors, and ISBN numbers
        >of reference materials that the list members recommend
        >to beginners.

        The general problem with the Czech Republic is that very little has been
        published recently in English. The standard primer on Czech history in
        English here is still: J.V. Polis'ensky: "History of Czechoslovakia in
        Outline", ISBN: 80-85195-05-04. Published in Britain in the late 1940's and
        Bohemia in 1991. The anti-German/pro-Socialist bias is not surprising, given
        when it was written. More recently, a humourous guide to Czech history and
        character - and one of the few sources to acknowledge Jewish contriubutions
        to Czech history/culture: B. Karas: "Czechs and Balances", ISBN:
        80-7214-136-8. Pub: Prague, Baronet, 1998, RRP $7.50

        In the meantime, for online things, try:
        A brief overview of the History of the Czechs from the Czech Ministry of
        Foreign Affairs... http://www.czech.cz/czech/history.html
        Radio Prague's lighthearted but not always reliable rundown on Czech
        history: www.radio.cz/history
        A surprisingly good timeline provided by a well-established travel agency:
        http://www.travel.cz/travel/history1.asp
        A brief history of Bohemia in the 12th-13th century:
        http://www-lib.usc.edu/~aflesch/bohemia.html

        For naming practices:
        Start with Walraven's "Common Czech names of the 15th & 16th centuries" at
        http://www.panix.com/~mittle/names/walraven/lateczech/
        The "Bibliography of Czech Names" at
        http://www.s-gabriel.org/docs/czech.html (from the SCA's Academy of St
        Gabriel) gives the lowdown on useful reference books. And see the list of
        Premyslid rulers on my own site, of course...
        http://www.geocities.com/alastairmillar/premyslid.html

        If the Thirty Years' War is your sort of period, I can send you an article
        written by myself and Stanislav Kasik (a well-known Czech herald) on the
        mutations of the name Wallenstein, which will give you an intro. to the
        usual "German-Czech-and-English-forms" problem.

        More generally:
        The Czech & Slovak Knowledge pages run by Anezka z Rozmitala:
        http://www.crosswinds.net/czech-rep/~anezka/knowledge.html

        My own miscellany of various SIG-related things, weighted strongly towards
        Bohemia and Moravia: http://www.geocities.com/alastairmillar

        Details of some other SIG people interested in Bohemia/Moravia, and their
        specific interests: http://www.geocities.com/alastairmillar/studygroup.html

        Hope this helps!

        Alastair

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        Alastair Millar, BSc(Hons)
        Consultancy and translation for the heritage industry
        e-mail: alastair@..., http://www.skriptorium.cz
        P.O.Box 685, CZ 111 21 Prague 1, Czech Republic
        CzechEd@egroups.com - Cz/En/Cz translation list
      • vespirus@socrates.berkeley.edu
        ... So what is your primary persona? If you decide you really like being Czech, I have resources on Czech and Slovak heraldry, and could help you design arms
        Message 3 of 5 , Sep 2 6:13 PM
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          On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Trudy A Plotz wrote:

          > I am thinking of developing a second persona from either Ceska Trebova,
          > Bohemia or Domasov, Ivancice, Brno, Moravia set in the late middle ages
          > or early Renaissance. (I have ancestors from those two areas of the now
          > Czech Republic)

          So what is your primary persona? If you decide you really like being
          Czech, I have resources on Czech and Slovak heraldry, and could help you
          design arms that fit into the appropriate style. (But not right now, real
          life strikes!)

          --Walraven
        • Trudy A Plotz
          Walrave, My primary persona is a Swedish Viking in the 900 s. I really enjoy heraldry and greatly appreciate any help you have the time to give regarding this
          Message 4 of 5 , Sep 3 11:23 PM
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            Walrave,
            My primary persona is a Swedish Viking in the 900's. I really enjoy
            heraldry and greatly appreciate any help you have the time to give
            regarding this subject.
            Lady Saranna

            On Sat, 2 Sep 2000 18:13:48 -0700 (PDT) <vespirus@...>
            writes:
            > So what is your primary persona? If you decide you really like
            > being
            > Czech, I have resources on Czech and Slovak heraldry, and could help
            > you
            > design arms that fit into the appropriate style. (But not right now,
            > real
            > life strikes!)
            >
            > --Walraven
            >
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          • vespirus@socrates.berkeley.edu
            ... Well, I can tell you that someone living in the 900s would not have had heraldry, since it did not exist yet. In the SCA, we don t usually let that stop
            Message 5 of 5 , Sep 9 6:13 PM
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              On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Trudy A Plotz wrote:

              > Walrave,
              > My primary persona is a Swedish Viking in the 900's. I really enjoy
              > heraldry and greatly appreciate any help you have the time to give
              > regarding this subject.

              Well, I can tell you that someone living in the 900s would not have had
              heraldry, since it did not exist yet. In the SCA, we don't usually let
              that stop us from designing heraldry and using it -- all based on the idea
              that you're interacting with other people using heraldry, and an traveller
              in a foreign land usually adopted some of the customs of his/her new home.

              My advice, without knowing specifics of your taste or how much you already
              know about heraldry, is to keep it simple. Simple heraldry is early
              heraldry, and the simpler designs are considered more elegant by those who
              are "in the know" about such things.

              If you have specific ideas or designs in mind, I'd be happy to discuss
              them with you privately (rather than burdening the list with an off-topic
              discussion).

              --Walraven
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