Fw: Catholics in Ukraine
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Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 1:17 AM
Subject: [sig] Digest Number 292
A couple questions mashed into one message
1. Can anybody tell me if there are surviving..well, um anything, about
religion pre-Catholic and Christianity in Russia? Anywhere is good, the
area around Moscow and/or Kiev is better.>>
Well, neither Moscow nor Kiev people were Catholic (unles you count Polish
period in Ukraine). There was that Unia (do I spell this right in English?)
thing of mixed Orthodox-Catholic church agreement in Western Ukraine, but
that is different. Of pagan religion of the Ancient Rus nothing survived
Well, from broad generalizations, I understand the basic assertions,
herre, but I'd like to add some nuances.
As for the people of Ukraine/Belarus' never being Catholic, that
depends on you definition of "Church" and "Catholic".
One, most minimal definition of Catholic is "in union with the See of
Rome.", which is arguably how Ukraine began it's Christianity in the time of
the state of Rus' era via St. Volodymyr/Vladimir in 988. (so some people
like to say they were Catholic at the time, or "CAtholic too" or Catholic
and Orthodox.) In spite of the Great Schism in 1054, the Church of Kyiv
continued contacts with Rome during the era of the state of Halych-Volyhnya
(12th-14th centuries), and were present at every one of the 21"Ecumenical
Councils" according to the Catholic listing, except one.
As for the Unia, that was decided a the Council of Brest in 1596, on
behalf of the entire Ruthenian Church of Kyiv/Halych (Ukraine and Belarus'),
not just Western Ukraine. The metropolitans, stayed in Kyiv until the 1620s
or so, for the most part. The "unia" though ran against the budding
indepence movment of the Ukrainian Kokaks, based in Kyiv.