a couple questions
A couple questions mashed into one message
1. Can anybody tell me if there are surviving..well, um anything, about
religion pre-Catholic and Christianity in Russia? Anywhere is good, the
area around Moscow and/or Kiev is better.
2. I know there's a thread on this, but I'm a bit confused (my brain is a
bit addled from school. The weekend's here, finally!). What does one wear
when going to an impossibly hot war in the middle of summer? I'm attending
Darkwell war this year in Caid and I really don't know what to wear, and
what material to make it from. Unmarried female (I'm 15), living in Kiev
during Grand Princess Olga's reign, I am! Oh, and a friend once mentioned
that Russian women kept their hair long. Unfortunatly, I had to cut my
longish hair quite short, (chlorine absolutley ravaged it), so I don't know
what to do.
I'm a bit new at this, having switched personae until I finally settled on
Thank you so much for reading!
there's a great deal of poetry and fine sentiment in a chest of tea
- Galina wrote:
>I've also heard of a book called "The Book ofA translation of the Book of Veles is being put on-line with notes at
>Veles/Volos" (can't remember which spelling they use)
>that I've been trying to get my hands on, but it isn't
>available in English yet
http://wicca.drak.net/gwiddon/index.html (this is an *excellent* site with
other translated material, too - highly recommended!!)
FWIW, Roman Zaroff's "Organised pagan cult in Kievan Rus': the invention of
foreign elite or evolution of local tradition?" at
http://metalab.unc.edu/sergei/Zaroff/ is a fascinating look not only at the
politics of Slavic pagan religion, but at some of the possible roots of
- Sorry this is late, I'm entering the last few weeks of Hell, I mean, school
and I'm a leeeetly bit busy.
The peplos idea made my brain hurt, especially picturing a sarafan over it
(whoever had that idea, please don't feel bad, it was really creative and
creativity is a good thing). And I do not think that in Russia, anyway, a
peplos was ever used in the SCA period (perhaps really early pre-period,
but I'm not sure). In my mind, especially for a female early persona or a
late persona wanting to be cooler and slightly more lower-staus/class (is
there a polite way to say that?), a long shirt (rubakha) would be primo.
My advice is to make one rubakha and try it out at a hot event.
Splurge on linen (which you can find very affordably on the web anyway), it
is only one garment and most of us will pay more for off-the-rack clothes
at a nice department store. Besides, this shirt will be a basic piece of
Russian/Rus' garb for you and will get a lot of use. Patterns can be found
from the clothing page of the Russian Knowledge Page.
If you use a medium-weight linen (which is what you will normally find
anyway), you shouldn't need to worry about modesty, if you worry about
those things. Linen is more period and will keep you cooler than cotton.
If the linen is thin, you can do what I have done and make a sleeveless
linen rubakha to go under it (or keep the sleeves on, I just removed mine
so I could wear the shirt under other clothing items) or a linen drawstring
slip/skirt. Two layers of light linen is just fine in the heat, in fact,
it can insulate you slightly and keep you cooler. Besides, I remember
seeing a reference somewhere (I'm sure someone will look it up for me)
about a properly modest Russian woman wearing two shirts.
Use a white or natural/grey linen if you can. Decorate with red accents
(embroidery, stitched on ribbon, etc) around the neck, cuffs and hems. We
don't have any good documentation for how they were decorated, but we can
fudge here (simple embroidery looks really effective). We are just trying
for something closer to Russian than a Anglo-Norman T-tunic. Add a belt of
some type (fabric, metal, or leather, without the long dangling tail) and
you are pretty much set! Rubakhas can be made ankle-length and with wrist
length sleeves that can be rolled up when necessary The shorter length is
still period and will be cooler to boot (rubakhas look good with bare
feet). If you are a married or mature woman, wear a head covering
(lightweight linen!). If you are a young girl or unmarried young woman,
wear your hair down or wear the headcovering anyway to keep the sun off
your head and neck and your entire body much cooler.
How can you go wrong? You end up with an outfit that is cool (temperature
and fashion), is much, much closer to period than a broadcloth poly-cotton
T-tunic, and you are really, really identifiable as a Rus'.
--Yana, who needs to go to bed after she picks up the living room
- In a message dated 4/26/2000 3:04:11 PM Central Daylight Time,
> Also, who says that the undertunic *has* to be as long as the overThat's exactly what I did -- I did use cotton, but I weathered upper-90s
> tunic? Make false sleeves so that the whole outfit *looks* like
> layers, but really isn't. Only you will know for sure.
weather with rather high humidity (typical southern Ansteorran August
> Also, I highly recommend cotton-Lycra bike shorts under everything --Oh yeah! An essential part of every event-packing! That, and decent shoes.
> they prevent ugly chafing problems. They can be gotten at Wal-Mart
> for the astronomical sum of $5-7 a pair (95% cotton, 5% Lycra).
ready to cheat in inhumanly hot weather.
Still pining for a "civilized" climate, with proper winters and NO FIRE ANTS!
- Well, I have an article on sarafan construction based on Master
Mordak's (wavewavewave -- hi 'dak!) Way Cool Russian Costuming Packet
(TM) on the SCA-Garb website: http://sca-garb.freeservers.com -- it
was also reprinted in the latest edition of Slovo (BTW, Yana? Slovo
left off the attribution to Mordak.)
I've had trouble finding Mordak's material on that site. Can anyone help
the Other Ksenia
- (wavewavewave -- hi 'dak!)
wavewavewave...hey there Ksenia!!!!
I've had trouble finding Mordak's material on that site. Can anyone
That's because I've been a slacker! But, if Yana Groznya is going to
be at Crown in the Quad Cities in two weeks, so will I, with all
my stuff in hand!
'dak, Russkie slacker
- For everyone who has been wondering about Mordak's clothing packet, here is
I will scan and upload the packet to a website as soon as I receive a copy.
After I start uploading it, I will post the URL here. There is no URL
yet. Please be patient. :-)
P.S. Mordak, I will not be at Crown Tourney. Would you please write to me?
- --- Castalia <castalia@...> wrote:
>On which site? I can help you with SCA-Garb: At the main page
> Well, I have an article on sarafan construction based on Master
> Mordak's (wavewavewave -- hi 'dak!) Way Cool Russian Costuming
> (TM) on the SCA-Garb website: http://sca-garb.freeservers.com -- it
> was also reprinted in the latest edition of Slovo (BTW, Yana?
> left off the attribution to Mordak.)
> I've had trouble finding Mordak's material on that site. Can
> anyone help
> the Other Ksenia
(http://sca-garb.freeservers.com) look on the side navigation bar
under articles. There should be one entitled "The Russian Sarafan."
As I said, it's based on Mordak's pattern. The packet itself is not
available on the site. However, as soon as it's up somewhere, I will
want to link to it!
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- Hey Everyone,
The following is a direct lift from the Midrealm Laurel
discussion page. I would deeply appreciate a translation for this
gentle. You'll probably have to do a direct answer to his private
cite as this is a dedicated page.
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 14:14:53 -0400
Subject: MIDLAUREL: Assistance with a Translation?
From: Timothy A Whitcomb <freyja1@...>
Could any one where translate into Latin and/or Russian the
"Have Pipkin, Will Travel"
Your assistance is appreciated..this is for a fellow potter in