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  • David Andersson
    Jenne, I hardly think that one comment constitutes continued insistance . What I have noticed is continuted insistance on your part to make an issue out of
    Message 1 of 1 , Jul 28, 1999
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      Jenne,

      I hardly think that one comment constitutes "continued insistance". What I
      have noticed is "continuted insistance" on your part to make an issue out of
      this and throw insults around. Please stop. Even better, please do not
      address me in the future.

      Sincerely,

      David Andersson

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Jenne Heise <jenne@...>
      To: <sig@onelist.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 2:44 PM
      Subject: Re: [sig] (no subject)


      > From: Jenne Heise <jenne@...>
      >
      > Dear Sir,
      >
      > I don't think that on the SLAVIC INTEREST GROUP LIST, a list dedicated to
      > research and discussion of the SLAVIC PEOPLES, continued insistence that
      > SLAVS were absolutely equivalent to SLAVES in period is appropriate, nor,
      > I think you will admit (since you have a degree in history) is it at all
      > accurate.
      >
      > If you were trying to be funny, you didn't succeed-- perhaps you
      > should use an emoticon next time. Otherwise it appears that you are
      > repeating the old canard from the German historians that Slavs are by
      > nature a subject people (after all, even their name means SLAVE, so
      > clearly they have no talent for self government...).
      >
      > A familiarity with fourteenth century East European history, which I'm
      > sure you have, shows that while the peoples of Eastern Europe made slave
      > raids on each other on a regular basis, most people in Eastern Europe
      > (Slavic, Baltic, German or Magyar) were NOT slaves at any given time; nor
      > were 'Slavs' the period European equivalent of African Blacks, since the
      > peoples of Eastern Europe showed no particular ethnic preference in their
      > enforced laborers. The capturing of people during raids appears to have
      > been incidental, part of the capturing of booty, and to have tapered off
      > during the Christian centuries for some reason. It certainly appears that
      > the Teutonic Knights were more interested in capturing land and
      > populating it with western settlers under German Law than they were in
      > capturing slaves; apparently the Western church frowned on slavery.
      >
      > On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, David Andersson wrote:
      >
      > > From: "David Andersson" <d.andersson@...>
      > >
      > > Whoever wrote this comment was extremly out of line and boorish. I am
      not
      > > German, I do have a degree in History, so I have a far better idea of
      what I
      > > am talking about than many half-educated people with no manners.
      > >
      > > David
      > >
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      > > From: Jenne Heise <jenne@...>
      > > To: <sig@onelist.com>
      > > Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 2:20 PM
      > > Subject: Re: [sig] (no subject)
      > >
      > >
      > > > From: Jenne Heise <jenne@...>
      > > >
      > > > On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Robert J Welenc wrote:
      > > > > >On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, David Andersson wrote:
      > > > > >> From: "David Andersson" <d.andersson@...>
      > > > > >> Early 14th century Slav? How about wearing chains? :(
      > > > > >> Dave
      > > > > >Er. Dave, either you're on the wrong list, or you have a really
      > > > > strange
      > > > > >view of history...
      > > > > >Jadwiga Zajaczkowa
      > > > > Check the OED for the derivation of the English word 'slave'...
      > > > >
      > > > > Alanna
      > > >
      > > > Ah. I see. I really hope the gentleman is simply dyslexic, not the
      kind
      > > > of bigoted German who keeps this derivation alive.
      > > >
      > > > Jadwiga Zajaczkowa (Shire of Eisental), mka Jennifer Heise
      > > > jenne@...
      > > > "in verbis et in herbis, et in lapidibus sunt virtutes"
      > > > (In words, and in plants, and in stones, there is power.)
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      > Jadwiga Zajaczkowa (Shire of Eisental), mka Jennifer Heise
      > jenne@...
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