7679Re: [sig] a million rus questions
- Jun 16, 2003
> jfn> *sigh* I'm not the original poster, but there's a very strong trend inThe notion of 'national costume' is generally considered by Western
> jfn> historiography to believe that around the millenium the ruling class in
> jfn> Russia was Scandinavian, which would definitely lead to a very strong
> jfn> influence on the culture at that time!
> Oh my, Jadwiga, what the , ergm, historiography did you put ruling
> class's (argueable at least) origins and the popular clothes type into
> the same bowl? I can't imagine the picture Levi Strauss's garb being
> popular in, say, Florida several decades after the vere pattern was
> invented. No ruling class could greatly change the national costumes'
> pattern (even in decades or centuries) if it was completely different.
> They could change fashion but not the national costume.
costume historians to be 17th and 18th century in origin, which is very
frustrating for those of us researching West Slavic cultures-- since it
means that the national and regional costume books aren't all that much
help. This again may be a translation issue-- the phrase 'national
costume' means one thing to these costume historians and may mean another
thing to you.
Olga Sronkova's book on 16th to 18th century fashions, specifically
centering on Bohemia, is an interesting work talking about the adoption of
Spanish Renaissance costume in Bohemia, etc. in the 16th century.
I'm not sure what you are trying to say with the Florida reference?
> I'm sure he meant that he didn't believe those Russians borrowed the patternI've always found it curious that there is a similarity between the
> and not invented it themselves or took from the common indo-european
> source of patterns.
'traditional' polygonal overdress with straps that is considered
postperiod for Russia and the Viking apron-dress... but because we do have
some pictures from the intervening period, it seems clear that there is no
direct connection. So both could have come out of one single impulse at
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