3979Re: [sig] Maille dimensions, etc..
- Oct 3, 2000
> The first question I want to ask is if anyone has knowledge of theYou know, I almost typed in a whole table of locations, dates, ring
>diameter and thickness of chains in Russian chain mail? I understand
>that there are many different kinds, but I know little to nothing. And if
>I had a few examples from pieces which have survived then that would be
thiknnesses and internal diameters.. but then I figured that would be an
9th and 10th century maille shirts are made of alternating welded and
riveted rings, id 7 to 9 and 13 to 14 mm, thikness 1.5-2 mm (each garment
consists of only one kind of rings, however, there is variation among the
different garments). In general, the rings are smashed flat.
The neck hole is done with a split in the center or a bit off to the left.
On average, the length of a shirt was 60-70 cm, width around the waist 50
cm, sleeve length 25 cm. There were some shirts that were riveted only,
but, as in Western Europe, they only come to dominate the scene in 14th
century and later. These shirts weighed around 12 pounds (although I would
say, and this is not supported by my sources, that you can safely kick the
weight up to 15 lb -- the weight that is reported is based on the de-rusted
maille, which would lose some weight in the process).
Around 1200 a new type of flat ring is introduced, id 13-16 mm, width 2-4
mm, thikness .6-.8 mm. Around this time also sleeves and skirts start
getting longer, more like their Western counterparts.
If you aer planning on getting butted maille none of the above needs to
bother you too much except for the sleeve/skirt dimensions -- when you go
from riveted and welded to butted, getting the thikness right is similar to
making a close reproduction of maximillian armor in plastic :). You are
doing admirable work, but it's wasted on the material..
I don't recall anything about a Russian two-handed sword, and couldn't find
a mension in my library.
P.S.- I almost forgot does anyone know the Russian word for swift, or
>quick? or something that has to do with speed. I'm trying to work onFor Russian persona names, get Paul's book. The word for "quick" is
>my Persona name.
P.S. speaking of maille -- I got my kit together, kinda. See
One change that has already taken place since the pics were taken is that I
now wear a red belt with the outfit...
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