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  • aldo
    Jul 2, 2008
      My dear friends! These are really specific reasearches that do not apply to
      the Rus' but only to Siberian uses and traditions and not in the Middle Ages
      as it is conventionally fixed.
      I would advise to refer to Dmbinsk's work mainly and Kostomarov Domosc'njaja
      Zhizn' Russkogo Naroda. The historian refers to the home uses of his time
      but compares (this is his main interest) them to the Chronicles and and to
      the past of the three most important areas of the Russian Middle Ages: The
      most ancient NOVGOROD-POLOTSK area, KIEV area, and finally VLADIMIR-SUZDAL
      area.
      This is really a valuiable work to make any research on food and way of
      living in the old Russian Times.Not much has come to the light after
      Kostomarov's epoch (XIX cent.). Even the Birch letters do not inform much
      about food and cooking.

      Ciao

      Aldo
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Kseniia Smolnianina" <kseniia@...>
      To: <sig@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:13 PM
      Subject: Re: [sig] period games


      > A reenactor from Latvia whose LiveJournal I read (in Russian) just
      > posted two titles that may be of interest on this subject. I'm not
      > sure if they're available in the US, and I doubt they've been
      > translated, but here's the info anyway (one of the native speakers on
      > this list can correct my rough translations if necessary!):
      >
      > - В.В. Шевцов. ПОВСЕДНЕВНОСТЬ ДОСУГА. ФОРМЫ ИГРОВОГО ДОСУГА В СРЕДЕ
      > СЛУЖИЛОГО НАСЕЛЕНИЯ ТОМСКОГО ОСТРОГА. (V.V. Shevtsov. Everyday
      > Leisure. Forms of Leisure Games among the Working Population of Tomsk
      > Island.)
      >
      > This one apparently discusses a variety of leisure time activities
      > including bones, checkers, chess and card games. I can't tell from
      > the description if this includes period games or not, but it seems to
      > go into the history of games, so I'm guessing there's something there.
      >
      > - В.В. Шевцов. КАРТОЧНАЯ ИГРА В ОБЩЕСТВЕННОМ БЫТУ РОССИИ (КОНЕЦ XVI -
      > НАЧАЛО XIX ВВ.) // МАТЕРИАЛЫ НАУЧНЫХ КОНФЕРЕНЦИЙ СТУДЕНТОВ И
      > АСПИРАНТОВ ИСТОРИЧЕСКОГО ФАКУЛЬТЕТА ТГУ. 1998-2001 ГГ. (V.V.
      > Shevtsov. Card Games in the Common [or Society?] Life in Russia (End
      > of 16th - Beginning of 19th Centuries). // Materials from the
      > Scientific Conferences of Students and Graduate Students of the
      > History Department of TGU. 1998-2001.)
      >
      > Here's a link to the LiveJournal, for those of you who read Russian:
      >
      > http://ms-reenactor.livejournal.com/
      >
      > --Kseniia
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > 2008/7/1 Alexey Kiyaikin aka Posadnik <Posadnik@...>:
      > > Greetings!
      > >
      > >
      > > Checkers
      > > Bylinas hold them along with chess as Tavleii, from the Latin
      "tabula"(board). Though, some refer the word to backgammon.
      > > (the reason is there were dice in Tavleii - and there is a board game
      with dice to match, backgammon!
      > > But: afair the old Indian game of chess did involve dice to set the
      sequence of turns; so the question is _when_ chess players quit using a die
      to tell whose turn it is.
      > >
      > >
      > > NB: chess playing in Old Rus was also considered a gambling game. The
      clergy were forbidden to play one. The text in Russian just in case one
      needs.
      > > http://www.sura.ru/partizan/chees.htm
      > >
      > > -----Original Message-----
      > > From: Marilyn <mamalynx@...>
      > > To: sig@yahoogroups.com
      > > Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 09:44:29 -0400
      > > Subject: [sig] period games
      > >
      > >>
      > >> ? A friend has asked me for links to any games which might have been
      played
      > >> in Russian and Slavic areas in period. I know I had heard of chess ..
      do
      > >> any of you know of any others?
      > >>
      > >> Thanks Marija
      >
      >
      >
      >
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