Re: Territory & dead stones?
> Now for my problem. When a game is over, you need to mark dead stonesWhat one really needs to mark are the scoring points on the board.
> and territory.
If one liked to mark other things, one would have to use several
stages of diagrams. E.g. with the Nihon Kiin 1989 rules and at the
game end one might illustrate in the following order:
1 - living stones (distinguished: uncapturable stones, capturable stones
[but what about stones that are alive _and_ dead in case of incomplete
and incorrect play?]), dead stones, eye points, dame (all distinguished)
2 - stones of groups not in seki, stones of groups in seki, [optionally
any remaining stones], points of territory (all distinguished)
Not to mention extra troubles during the confirmation phase.
AYCS, rules intricacies are not useful for SGF properties. One
can still illustrate them by using labels, e.g. Stage 2 as above
might be shown with N, S, T labels (for stones of groups not in seki,
stones of groups in seki, points of territory). Or you offer three
diagrams for these.
> I believe that programs usually mark territory with TWWith some rule sets this can be reasonable. With most Japanese rule
> and TB, and mark dead stones by placing a TB/TW marker over them
> (since usually a dead stone is in the territory of the opponent).
sets it is not.
> there is one case I can think of where you have dead stones that areCorrect play would use the proper [encore] method of the exact Japanese
> *not* territory, and that's in an eye of a group in seki in Japanese
rule set to capture the dead stone(s).
> According to Japanese rules, it is dead and thusIt is only worth one point if being removed BEFORE the [completion of
> worth one point to Black at the end of the game.
end of the game. Otherwise it remains within a group in seki, where
is no territory from which stones would be allowed to be removed.
> If it were marked with "TB"With Japanese rules a mistake.
> This wouldn't matter too much, but cgoban doesSee above.
> recognize seki and scores it correctly.
> It just doesn't know how to saveIf you want to store the scored board points as well, you must not
> the scored poisition to an SGF file, so at the moment it (incorrectly)
> labels the dead stone as territory.
include any seki points (under Japanese rules). If the game ended as
shown, then the dead stone in seki does not belong to territory,
is not marked, and does not score at all.
> So how do we mark this situation?Do not mark it. Players should have played it out correctly.