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Re: [seymouria] Re: Sea Monster Truth Or Hoax?

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  • Neal Robbins
          It might be authentic. The majority of shark fossil specimens consist only of teeth, though some have other components. Most well preserved shark
    Message 1 of 8 , Apr 19, 2013
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          It might be authentic. The majority of shark fossil specimens consist only of teeth, though some have other components. Most well preserved shark remains that I have seen come from limestone formations.
       
          Neal

      From: mimetaster <mimetaster@...>
      To: seymouria@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 10:41 AM
      Subject: [seymouria] Re: Sea Monster Truth Or Hoax?
       
      Not a vertebrate specialist, but it looks like a axial skeleton from some kind of big shark - not of a too unusual size though. Only skull and rostrum remain, the jaw that is suspended to skull with ligaments and fins are missing, perhaps they fell of the decomposing corps.

      The tail shape is typical, and the vertebra and skull seems poorly ossified.

      Denis

      --- In mailto:seymouria%40yahoogroups.com, Neal Robbins <ctn47496@...> wrote:
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      >     Well, it's certainly interesting. I'm absolutely not sure whether it's real or a fake. However, I'm inclined to be somewhat skeptical.
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      >     Neal
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      > From: fadingshadows2000 <fadingshadows40@...>
      > To: mailto:seymouria%40yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 4:41 PM
      > Subject: [seymouria] Sea Monster Truth Or Hoax?
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      > Okay you guys, take a look at this. Is it real or a fake? http://en.rocketnews24.com/2013/04/01/skeleton-of-enormous-sea-creature-pulled-out-of-the-water-in-china-before-april-1/
      > Tom
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    • fadingshadows2000
      I agree. If it s not a hoax, the skeletal frame is probably that of a shark. The skull is a bit confusing, though. But I m certainly no authority on sharks.
      Message 2 of 8 , Apr 19, 2013
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        I agree. If it's not a hoax, the skeletal frame is probably that of a shark. The skull is a bit confusing, though. But I'm certainly no authority on sharks.
        Tom

        --- In seymouria@yahoogroups.com, "mimetaster" <mimetaster@...> wrote:
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        > Not a vertebrate specialist, but it looks like a axial skeleton from some kind of big shark - not of a too unusual size though. Only skull and rostrum remain, the jaw that is suspended to skull with ligaments and fins are missing, perhaps they fell of the decomposing corps.
        >
        > The tail shape is typical, and the vertebra and skull seems poorly ossified.
        >
        > Denis
        >
        > --- In seymouria@yahoogroups.com, Neal Robbins <ctn47496@> wrote:
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        > >  
        > >     Well, it's certainly interesting. I'm absolutely not sure whether it's real or a fake. However, I'm inclined to be somewhat skeptical.
        > >  
        > >     Neal
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        > > ________________________________
        > > From: fadingshadows2000 <fadingshadows40@>
        > > To: seymouria@yahoogroups.com
        > > Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 4:41 PM
        > > Subject: [seymouria] Sea Monster Truth Or Hoax?
        > >
        > >  
        > > Okay you guys, take a look at this. Is it real or a fake? http://en.rocketnews24.com/2013/04/01/skeleton-of-enormous-sea-creature-pulled-out-of-the-water-in-china-before-april-1/
        > > Tom
        > >
        >
      • Neal Robbins
              It might be a shark with a characteristic that is unusual for sharks. As we know, some members of groups deviate from the norm.       Neal
        Message 3 of 8 , Apr 19, 2013
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              It might be a shark with a characteristic that is unusual for sharks. As we know, some members of groups deviate from the norm.
           
              Neal

          From: fadingshadows2000 <fadingshadows40@...>
          To: seymouria@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 11:18 AM
          Subject: [seymouria] Re: Sea Monster Truth Or Hoax?
           
          I agree. If it's not a hoax, the skeletal frame is probably that of a shark. The skull is a bit confusing, though. But I'm certainly no authority on sharks.
          Tom

          --- In mailto:seymouria%40yahoogroups.com, "mimetaster" <mimetaster@...> wrote:
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          > Not a vertebrate specialist, but it looks like a axial skeleton from some kind of big shark - not of a too unusual size though. Only skull and rostrum remain, the jaw that is suspended to skull with ligaments and fins are missing, perhaps they fell of the decomposing corps.
          >
          > The tail shape is typical, and the vertebra and skull seems poorly ossified.
          >
          > Denis
          >
          > --- In mailto:seymouria%40yahoogroups.com, Neal Robbins <ctn47496@> wrote:
          > >
          > >  
          > >     Well, it's certainly interesting. I'm absolutely not sure whether it's real or a fake. However, I'm inclined to be somewhat skeptical.
          > >  
          > >     Neal
          > >
          > >
          > > ________________________________
          > > From: fadingshadows2000 <fadingshadows40@>
          > > To: mailto:seymouria%40yahoogroups.com
          > > Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 4:41 PM
          > > Subject: [seymouria] Sea Monster Truth Or Hoax?
          > >
          > >  
          > > Okay you guys, take a look at this. Is it real or a fake? http://en.rocketnews24.com/2013/04/01/skeleton-of-enormous-sea-creature-pulled-out-of-the-water-in-china-before-april-1/
          > > Tom
          > >
          >

        • mimetaster
          I wasn t thinking of a fossil, I think it is a decomposed specimen washed ashore. On the video, it is more evident than on the pictures, because there are
          Message 4 of 8 , Apr 20, 2013
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            I wasn't thinking of a fossil, I think it is a decomposed specimen washed ashore.

            On the video, it is more evident than on the pictures, because there are close-ups.

            I think it always interesting to try to identify weird remains like this one, especially when they are reported as 'monsters' :-)

            Denis

            --- In seymouria@yahoogroups.com, Neal Robbins <ctn47496@...> wrote:
            >
            >  
            >     It might be a shark with a characteristic that is unusual for sharks. As we know, some members of groups deviate from the norm.
            >  
            >     Neal
            >
            >
            > ________________________________
            > From: fadingshadows2000 <fadingshadows40@...>
            > To: seymouria@yahoogroups.com
            > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 11:18 AM
            > Subject: [seymouria] Re: Sea Monster Truth Or Hoax?
            >
            >  
            > I agree. If it's not a hoax, the skeletal frame is probably that of a shark. The skull is a bit confusing, though. But I'm certainly no authority on sharks.
            > Tom
            >
            > --- In mailto:seymouria%40yahoogroups.com, "mimetaster" <mimetaster@> wrote:
            > >
            > > Not a vertebrate specialist, but it looks like a axial skeleton from some kind of big shark - not of a too unusual size though. Only skull and rostrum remain, the jaw that is suspended to skull with ligaments and fins are missing, perhaps they fell of the decomposing corps.
            > >
            > > The tail shape is typical, and the vertebra and skull seems poorly ossified.
            > >
            > > Denis
            > >
            > > --- In mailto:seymouria%40yahoogroups.com, Neal Robbins <ctn47496@> wrote:
            > > >
            > > >  
            > > >     Well, it's certainly interesting. I'm absolutely not sure whether it's real or a fake. However, I'm inclined to be somewhat skeptical.
            > > >  
            > > >     Neal
            > > >
            > > >
            > > > ________________________________
            > > > From: fadingshadows2000 <fadingshadows40@>
            > > > To: mailto:seymouria%40yahoogroups.com
            > > > Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 4:41 PM
            > > > Subject: [seymouria] Sea Monster Truth Or Hoax?
            > > >
            > > >  
            > > > Okay you guys, take a look at this. Is it real or a fake? http://en.rocketnews24.com/2013/04/01/skeleton-of-enormous-sea-creature-pulled-out-of-the-water-in-china-before-april-1/
            > > > Tom
            > > >
            > >
            >
          • Neal Robbins
                  It may be decomposed; that alters the specimen to a considerable extent. I agree; it is interesting to try to identify remains like that.      
            Message 5 of 8 , Apr 20, 2013
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                  It may be decomposed; that alters the specimen to a considerable extent. I agree; it is interesting to try to identify remains like that.
               
                  Neal

              From: mimetaster <mimetaster@...>
              To: seymouria@yahoogroups.com
              Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 2:49 PM
              Subject: [seymouria] Re: Sea Monster Truth Or Hoax?
               
              I wasn't thinking of a fossil, I think it is a decomposed specimen washed ashore.

              On the video, it is more evident than on the pictures, because there are close-ups.

              I think it always interesting to try to identify weird remains like this one, especially when they are reported as 'monsters' :-)

              Denis

              --- In mailto:seymouria%40yahoogroups.com, Neal Robbins <ctn47496@...> wrote:
              >
              >  
              >     It might be a shark with a characteristic that is unusual for sharks. As we know, some members of groups deviate from the norm.
              >  
              >     Neal
              >
              >
              > ________________________________
              > From: fadingshadows2000 <fadingshadows40@...>
              > To: mailto:seymouria%40yahoogroups.com
              > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 11:18 AM
              > Subject: [seymouria] Re: Sea Monster Truth Or Hoax?
              >
              >  
              > I agree. If it's not a hoax, the skeletal frame is probably that of a shark. The skull is a bit confusing, though. But I'm certainly no authority on sharks.
              > Tom
              >
              > --- In mailto:seymouria%40yahoogroups.com, "mimetaster" <mimetaster@> wrote:
              > >
              > > Not a vertebrate specialist, but it looks like a axial skeleton from some kind of big shark - not of a too unusual size though. Only skull and rostrum remain, the jaw that is suspended to skull with ligaments and fins are missing, perhaps they fell of the decomposing corps.
              > >
              > > The tail shape is typical, and the vertebra and skull seems poorly ossified.
              > >
              > > Denis
              > >
              > > --- In mailto:seymouria%40yahoogroups.com, Neal Robbins <ctn47496@> wrote:
              > > >
              > > >  
              > > >     Well, it's certainly interesting. I'm absolutely not sure whether it's real or a fake. However, I'm inclined to be somewhat skeptical.
              > > >  
              > > >     Neal
              > > >
              > > >
              > > > ________________________________
              > > > From: fadingshadows2000 <fadingshadows40@>
              > > > To: mailto:seymouria%40yahoogroups.com
              > > > Sent: Monday, April 1, 2013 4:41 PM
              > > > Subject: [seymouria] Sea Monster Truth Or Hoax?
              > > >
              > > >  
              > > > Okay you guys, take a look at this. Is it real or a fake? http://en.rocketnews24.com/2013/04/01/skeleton-of-enormous-sea-creature-pulled-out-of-the-water-in-china-before-april-1/
              > > > Tom
              > > >
              > >
              >

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