Fwd: questions for the advanced group
- This is from Gavra. I'll try my hand at them later in
the evening. If anyone want's to jump in ahead of me,
though, that's fine!
> I have some questions to post to the advanced group__________________________________
> Exercise 14 #11 What is "vam"? Where is it located
> in Weingreen's text?
> Exercise 15 #11 What is "vayihoo"?
> Exercise 17 #15 Is Shamarte "I have kept" or "I will
> keep" here?
> Exercise 19 #19 does 'lo'' = 'for himself' ?
> Exercise 20 #3 What is the 'ha' in 'hamvaksem'?
> Isn't this word in Piel
> Exercise 21 #6 Is the construct of city 'eer' like
> that of house 'bayit' ?
> ('are' and 'bare')?
> Exercise 22 #2 Does 'halo' = 'is not'?
> Is vayihoo and they were?
> What is vathee?
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> > I have some questions to post to the advanced groupFirst of all, Gavra, thanks so much for posting your questions. This
> > please.
is exactly what makes a group like this work. Chances are very high
that if you have a question about something, someone else in the
group does, too.
> > Exercise 14 #11 What is "vam"? Where is it locatedbam (beis mem) is the preposition beis with the suffix (p. 52
> > in Weingreen's text?
Weingreen). There's also an alternate for this form, bahem (beis,
heh, mem). Note that in this sentence the dagesh lene has dropped
out (so it's vam instead of bam) because it's preceded by a vowel (p.
42, footnote c).
> > Exercise 15 #11 What is "vayihoo"?I don't see this word in ex. 15 # 11. How is it spelled? Perhaps
it's the 3rd p. pl. imperfect of haya with a prefixed vav.
> > Exercise 17 #15 Is Shamarte "I have kept" or "I willSince this is the vav consersive with the perfect, I would translate
> > keep" here?
it as future, "I will protect you from all evil." This one's a
little tricky since although the first word vayhi establishes this
sentence as a vav consecutive (Weingreen p. 92 f), there is an
infinitive and and "anochi Hashem" separating the two verbs. I'm
guessing that's irrelavant, though. Maybe someone who really knows
grammar wants to jump in.
> > Exercise 19 #19 does 'lo'' = 'for himself' ?Yes, that's how I would translate it: The king made for himself..."
I think the suffix vav can the 3rd pers. masc. sing. as well as
> > Exercise 20 #3 What is the 'ha' in 'hamvaksem'?Yes this is Piel. It's the participle with the article (Weingreen,
> > Isn't this word in Piel
> > plural?
p. 66 -- the paragraph in the middle of the page). In idiomatic
English you'd add the relative pronoun: "Wicked men were found in the
city *who* were seeking the blood of our king."
> > Exercise 21 #6 Is the construct of city 'eer' likeI don't have a dictionary with me, but I think the construct sing. of
> > that of house 'bayit' ?
> > ('are' and 'bare')?
iyr is aray (ayin, resh, yud), wheras bayit simply becomes beit. But
I don't think iyr in this setence is construct, but rather the direct
object with a masc. pl. suffix, "their cities."
> > Exercise 22 #2 Does 'halo' = 'is not'?See Weingreen p. 80 footnote c. Halo can eithe be tranlated as "is
> > Is vayihoo and they were?
> > What is vathee?
not David hiding," or "surley David is hiding," depending on the
Vayihu is the vav consec with the imperf. of haya. This construction
in the singular very often means "and it happened," "and it came to
pass," which is how I translated it. But looking at it again, since
it's plural, I think you're right. It probably just means "messenger
of Samuel *were* on the road."
Yathi is the same word, but feminine (since ruach is fem.) I
translated it as an akward "and the spirit of G-d happened upon
them," but probably simply "the spirit of G-d was upon them" would be
Hope some of my explanations make sense! Keep the questions coming!
They're great! Also, if you see any questions on the list that you
want to try your hand at, by all means do.
Thanks again! It was very helpful to look at these again.